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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#1: Nov 24th 2011 at 12:12:54 PM

Part of the trope is that the loser is meant to represent the audience. Nothing about the current image shows that.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2: Nov 24th 2011 at 2:42:28 PM

Motion to pull

Per OP.

Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Nov 24th 2011 at 3:22:26 PM

Seconding the pull. There has to be a better example.

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#4: Nov 25th 2011 at 3:55:57 AM

The caption does the heavy lifting, if we're going to pick something else I expect it'll be a comic frame just so it won't be caption dependant.

GingerSnaps Tired forever. Since: Mar, 2011
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#5: Nov 25th 2011 at 11:53:52 AM

Thirding the pull.

What is this "sleep" you speak of?
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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enochj Since: Dec, 2011
#8: Dec 21st 2011 at 1:00:51 PM

I thought Homer was perfect too.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9: Dec 21st 2011 at 1:05:47 PM

[up] Me too. I would have voted Keep Until Better Image Suggested on this one, and I think this was pulled too fast.

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kraas Since: Nov, 2009
abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Jan 16th 2012 at 5:01:13 PM

[up][up] That seems to happen a lot. (I'm looking at you, Willbyr)

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Jan 16th 2012 at 5:11:30 PM

Except that it doesn't illustrate the trope. The trope is about the work making the protagonist a loser so that the audience sympathizes with him. The Homer pic just doesn't show that. At all. It shows that he's a loser, but there's absolutely zero implication that he's supposed to represent the audience.

edited 16th Jan '12 5:13:34 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#13: Jan 16th 2012 at 5:55:46 PM

[up] Exactly.

[up][up] Your concern is duly noted.

Everyone bitching about the image being pulled too quickly should've piped up when the motion was made.

edited 16th Jan '12 6:01:33 PM by Willbyr

Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#14: Jan 16th 2012 at 6:55:10 PM

That picture is not an example.

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
agentjohnbishop Gritty-ish Since: Oct, 2011
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#15: Jan 16th 2012 at 6:58:59 PM

Perhaps to demonstrate the trope we go a little meta and use the last panel from this

Edit: Ok, my mistake, this is not exactly the trope I thought it was and that link is not an example. Sorry to waste your time.

edited 16th Jan '12 7:01:46 PM by agentjohnbishop

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#16: Jan 16th 2012 at 7:07:22 PM

I love that image and I laughed hard when I first saw it, but yeah it's pretty bad. This is going to be tough to picture…

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#17: Jan 17th 2012 at 1:09:31 PM

I don't liked the homer pic either. While it definitely covers the 'lost' aspect, what is supposed to make me think I supposed to identify with him? I think the best solution here is to go meta.

FnF Since: Aug, 2011
#18: Jan 17th 2012 at 11:15:38 PM

A parody might do best at driving home the intent. How often does this trope actually work anyway?

Courtesy of The Onion. Alternatively, a slob watching a slob on TV watching TV. The Simpsons did a lot of things, but ever that?

edited 17th Jan '12 11:37:21 PM by FnF

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#19: Jan 17th 2012 at 11:46:07 PM

Laconic: "Character meant to depict the audience is shown negatively."

I get a lot more of that from the Onion image, than from Homer or from nothing.

edited 18th Jan '12 12:17:05 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#20: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:06:50 AM

[up][up] Except that if you want to get technical, how does that demonstrate the "you" any better? The Homer picture was pulled on the grounds that it demonstrated that the character was a loser, but not the audience he was mocking. Once more, that pic demonstrates someone who is a "loser" (supposedly by demonstrating him playing a game that does the same thing he's doing), but where's the connection that this is supposed to be us in general? There are more people in America that probably own an easy chair, are slovenly, and have a beer gut than there are people who fit that second pic.

edited 18th Jan '12 1:11:20 AM by KingZeal

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#21: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:09:10 AM

It's not supposed to be us, it's supposed to be him.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#22: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:10:21 AM

The trope is called "This Loser Is You". So yes, he is supposed to be us.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#23: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:12:09 AM

It could be called Supercalfragilistic, the title doesn't matter that much.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#25: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:14:23 AM

Are you kidding? Tropes are never defined by their titles.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

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