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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 29th 2023 at 10:02:23 AM
Ewing is a guy who strikes me as understanding even the most powerful, super, larger than life characters are still human. Even when they're not.
And humans are horny.
Also, good for Magneto for knowing about aftercare. We stan a sexually literate king, as the kids say.
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Which leads nicely into this.
That's slightly unexpected, although I think they did promise a Wolverine arc at some point. And yes, the title and logo made me laugh. Part one out 13th October.
Axe number 5 cap gets a pick me up chat from one of the normal humans pots we have been getting from time to time. Nightcrawler then takes him to confront the progenitor... who immediately blasts them both. We get more attacks but almost everyone falls before they retreat. With only a few eggs left nightcrawler decides they need to resurrect not cyclops but... captain America.
Wait, is Captain America a mutant?
Edited by kkhohoho on Sep 21st 2022 at 10:10:50 AM
no. The eggs can work on anyone they have a psychic backup of and DNA from. They just use it on only mutants because the psychic backup is easier with cerebros and the DNA is provided by sinister
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Oh right. That's why they were able to revive Wanda, who still isn't a mutant anymore. We have a precedent.
One Strip! One Strip!
For whatever reason Legion of X got hit much harder than the other X-books by the distribution chain messes so we’re only getting the Legion vs. Uranos fight that was mentioned months ago right now, with them meeting at the end of the issue, with the fight being presumably in the next one.
Supposedly, Legion lost that one in seconds… and we get a possible explanation why. Because THIS issue’s big fight is Legion vs. Ora Serrata, and he’s forced to sacrifice a large number of his alters to her ability to erase anything she looks directly at from existence in order to defeat her.
Edited by HamburgerTime on Sep 21st 2022 at 1:33:34 PM
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Also interesting to see that Mother Rapture's been pulling the strings. I suspect we'll see more of her in other X-books too, given her recent appearance in Immortal X-Men.
It appears John Byrne has lost interest and motivation in continuing his X-Men webcomic 'Elsewhen'. He didn't plan on finishing it ahead of this retirement, so it's ending on a very inconclusive note as a result. The final page posted in August ended with Wolverine facing down three Doctor Dooms, and no, they were not doom bots for once
What Could Have Been: Byrne's running commentary on the final pages was that Doom was going to use Nightcrawler's powers to summon forth variants of himself from the multiverse so he could storm Mephisto's domain and retrieve Doom's mother
A conversation in the main Marvel thread the other day about how flawed the "world outside your window" concept is made me realize that a big reason I like Krakoa is that a "Great Society" story played even mostly positively is damn rare these days. I mean, "utopia" and "dystopia" are practically synonyms these days; the vast majority of Great Society narratives in fiction have the society's good qualities just existing as a smokescreen for its utterly evil ones. Sure, Krakoa has flaws, but there's a big difference between a flawed society and one that's hiding a secret so obviously reprehensible that it immediately makes the entire society not with it.
It reminds me a lot of Arthur C. Clarke's works, actually; his stories are often set in futuristic societies, that, while not complete utopias, are still pretty clearly framed as more desirable than reality. Where did that kind of story go, I wonder? Not gonna lie, it's kind of uncomfortable to me that dreaming of something better for yourself and the world tends to peg you as a fascist or a JRPG villain in fiction these days. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Oh, bother.
Krakoa does have a dark secret — the whole thing was Moira's trap for the Mutants — but even after it was discovered, the people of Krakoa are determined to make it work anyway.
Disgusted, but not surprised
"I imagine a better society..."
"TACKLE HIM BEFORE HE TURNS INTO A GIANT SPACE SQUID!!"
Honestly after Sabretooth's series, it feels like Krakoa is teetering on the edge of something pretty momentous happening. I could definitely see regime change in its future.
Sabretooth definitely has the most negative depiction of Krakoa, with the revelation that apart from of course Mr. Creed himself, none of the Pit inmates did anything particularly bad, and were basically just made examples of as a flex of political muscle. Certainly sucks, but I actually enjoy seeing Krakoa develop as a society; we've had a number of repeals of unfair laws already ("no clones or alters" and "no precogs"), so I hope the Sabretooth developments lead to a reform or abolition of the Pit rather than the whole place being torched like some seem to want. 
Nightcrawler, Legion, and their crew are also strongly opposed to the Pit, and have accordingly founded a group of law enforcers that practice restorative rather than punitive justice, much as legal reform activists in the real world advocate. Again, it's a welcome nuance not seen in most modern Great Society stories.
The Head of the Hydra
Krakoa isn't a monolith at least, there are diverse opinions in it.
Granted in non-X books they are portrayed as more one-note but thats the fault of the writers.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Oh, bother.
The issues with Krakoa are also justified.
It was never intended to be a true functional society. It was just meant to be an attractive enough option to get all the Mutants in one place.
The growing pains it's going through now are due to people trying to make it work for real.
Disgusted, but not surprised
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This is why I was surprised to see reviews of the first issue claim a 'mutant police' book was tone deaf in 2022. Legion of X is coming at things from a very different perspective.
The Head of the Hydra
There is a lesson there that not every story about law keepers of some kind has to be an allegory for US cops
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
That's gonna be hard for people to swallow.
US Cops have really shit the pot, Law Enforcement wise.
One Strip! One Strip!
There's a broad tendency on the Internet to assume everything is "like the US unless noted," even among people who aren't from there. I assume because the Internet's development itself has been mostly Amerocentric for decades.
The Head of the Hydra
Its something they have to get regardless. Can you imagine limiting it is from a storytelling perspective that any sort of heroic vaguely law enforcement organization as a concept is rendered unusable simply because of the pigs in blue?
Its like we can't have vampire hunter stories because like hunters are on the side of order and that automatically makes them cops I guess......
Americans are narcissists, they have a very "me, me, me" approach to things which has spread and is why its a well known stereotype.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 1st 2022 at 1:29:35 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Surrounded by weirdoes
And a strong grip in media, too.
Wake me up at your own risk.
America isn't the only country in the world with systemic issues within law enforcement, I would point out...
Trans rights are human rights.
Surrounded by weirdoes
Still, if you can't find escapism in fiction, what's the point?
Wake me up at your own risk.
No disagreement there. Just saying that posing "cops are bad" as a sentiment born purely out of US cops being bad and everyone being fixated on the US is rather inaccurate.
Edited by Perseus on Oct 1st 2022 at 6:53:39 PM
Trans rights are human rights.
Dammit why is X-Men always so horny?
Disgusted, but not surprised