Wreck-It Ralph

^^^ The Laffy Taffy scene is up on Youtube as well.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

You mean in a not-filmed-at-theatres kind of quality?

[EDIT: for the sake of context...

... I'm reposting the video.]

edited 12th Jan '13 5:54:09 PM by AlexSora89

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One of my favorite things about this scene is how character establishing it is for Calhoun - she's tough enough to give the Get a Hold of Yourself, Man! slap to Felix when he starts panicking, but kindhearted enough to not actually want to repeat it when it's no longer necessary - and is in fact totally resistant to the idea. Her distant but clearly kind nature is nice bit of nuance you see throughout the film that stops her from falling into a more cliche use of a lot of the tropes surrounding her.

Also, I found it funny that she actually acknowledged the "goo goo eyes." Another thing you wouldn't expect.

edited 12th Jan '13 6:05:31 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

An alarming amount of footage is leaked online already.

That's filmed (or so I think), Kay-yoo. The one I posted looks like DVD quality, which is what I meant.

Spill the beans, Shota... any news?

edited 12th Jan '13 6:34:06 PM by AlexSora89

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^ It's still really good quality, especially if you view it in HD.

^^ I'm just waiting for the Turbo reveal to show up somewhere. I'm surprised it's taken so long.

edited 12th Jan '13 6:40:44 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

You know, I just realized something funny about the Nesquiksand scene... What Felix initially suggests to do, namely to just jump out, is actually the method to get out of quicksand in Platform Games, especially Mario games. Felix's panic could be seen as panicking because Sugar Rush doesn't follow that convention, being a Racing Game instead of a Platform Game. In Racing Games, a racer just gets instantly put back on the track if something like that were to happen.

edited 12th Jan '13 7:06:47 PM by GameGuruGG

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Someone (not me, I'm going to bed) needs to add that to the movie's examples of Fridge Brilliance. I mean, seriously.

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Someone already posted several scenes of Turbo online.

I've seen a lot of uploads of the final battle, but not The Reveal. Or any part of the race at all.

edited 12th Jan '13 7:35:38 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

I've seen several uploads of the final race, but who knows if they've been caught and deleted already? This is another advantage of doing daily searches for the movie: This past week I found the whole movie except for the credits as a single upload, so I grabbed that for reference until the real thing goes on sale. Now I just can't find the credits anymore.

One good thing about the bootlegs is that it allows for more inappropriate Jack McBrayer dubs already.

But maybe don't watch the last thirty seconds until you've seen the whole movie, since there's a surprise or two in there.

Naw, I've seen this scene in other languages on official Disney channels. It's likely that someone extracted the audio from a bootleg recording of the English version and dubbed it onto the HD video to make that.

That only reminded me of Disney's Hercules, where Philoctetes liked using the term; but in an early preview, he said "big blue eyes" instead.

The scene also highlights how playable characters like Felix, as well as mooks, must have the highest tolerance for pain, since we're talking about someone who's taking bricks and ducks to the face all day, whereas bosses like Ralph have to wait until someone wins an entire level before they can be "killed". It's interesting that Felix doesn't hold this fact against Ralph, but Gene does.

Did you once say you wished that someone had given away what the "Ralph dies" thing meant before seeing the movie? Then here's the big spoiler about it for anyone who has to wait until next month:

Ralph does die. He sacrifices himself to save Sugar Rush by falling into a volcano, while he recites the Bad Guy Affirmation one last time. They get a new Ralph, but it's just not the same, and this is why he sounds different in the video games that follow from the movie.

edited 12th Jan '13 11:48:10 PM by BagofMagicFood

No, I didn't say I wanted Ralph to die; if I recall correctly I was just afraid that with all the crap the protagonists are put through, the movie could end this way. And I hoped it didn't. Which is why I'm all the more glad it didn't. Although you can say that there's "a new Ralph" at the end of the movie, I can give you that.

Also, yeah, I thought that was why there's a HD version of the Game Central Station scene in its native language... but how can a bootleg recording get that good, audio-wise?

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Yeah, even a small, empty theater would tend to leave a bit of echo when it's recorded, so I dunno for sure where it comes from.

My other thought about the quicksand scene is that it must be what caused a lot of viewers to ask, "So if Felix's hammer can fix people, why doesn't he just fix Vanellope's glitch with it?" That's kinda the problem, that they try to establish a few simple rules, but a glitch is essentially a break in the rules, so all bets are off, somewhat. And then you're left wondering, "Wait, who can die from what in this thrilling climax now?"

Well, I believe Vanellope can regenerate from normal injuries, because in one scene she breaks a tooth, but in subsequent close-ups there's no gap in her teeth.

The difference is that Vanellope did have her glitchiness in the Sugar Rush code, while Felix's injuries are not his "default" setting.

Never be normal.

I guess the difference between glitches (at least, the kind of glitch Vanellope has) and injuries is like the difference between genes and a cut on one's skin.

Or, even better, you can fix a crack in a foundation but you can't "fix" what kind of stone it was built with. You're stuck with that (unless you do some reality warping).

edited 13th Jan '13 10:06:22 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Felix probably could restore Vanellope...if he was in the code. That's where the problem is.

As long as people are putting up footage, this one is my favorite.

Especially how Ralph's face goes from "Yeah let's do this!" to "Oh, Crap! I'm gonna die."

edited 13th Jan '13 11:59:22 AM by TommyX

Felix just couldn't fix Vanellope, even if he thought of it. Because her glitchiness wasn't just an error in her programming - Turbo stole her character slot. Given that was the cause of her glitching, the only way to get her fixed was to get rid of King Candy, but Felix's fix-it-only hammer prevents him from doing anyone any harm.

Either that, or just reaching the finish line, but given the sheer assholery shown by the other Sugar Rushers, there were people to get rid of in the first place.

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What were the jokers calling this one, "Who Framed Wreck-It Ralph in Casablanca"? The whole grocery-store-as-city thing seems like a pretty unworkable premise to begin with, but then the production's general incompetence turns it into a glorious trainwreck. I like how even my "Why did the store close after just five minutes? Or why did they wait so long to make a move?" gripe applies to both Foodfight and Wreck-It Ralph too though.

Actually cartoons about store products coming to life after the store closed are pretty old; all the way back to the Golden Age Of Animation, notably the one with the three Monkeys (See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Speak no Evil, who in this case were part of some kind of desk decoration.) They could be considered distant ancestors to both Roger Rabbit and Wreck-It Ralph.

Which brings me to a point I didn't speak of previously. Am I the only one who didn't feel bothered by the movie's Product Placement at all? I mean, normally I'd loathe product placement... in this movie, however? It was clever, witty, and pun-tastic. And if you manage to use a Diet Coke-Mentos eruption as a plot point, you can say you've won several internets.

Maybe my only complaint about the movie was Vanellope's Dreamworks Face during her Slow-Motion Pass-By as she surpasses King Candy, but that's just because I hate that smirk. Besides, Vanellope's supposed to have debuted in The '90s, back when the Mascot with Attitude was a trend to follow so it still makes sense, which is why I can't really complain about it.

[EDIT: Bedtime...]

edited 13th Jan '13 6:03:21 PM by AlexSora89

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I do like how the whole Hero's Duty part is played as essentially a bad idea that Ralph followed through with while drunk.

edited 13th Jan '13 6:08:12 PM by GameGuruGG

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Huh. Wreck-It Ralph just lost the Golden Globe award for Best Animated Movie- to Brave.

edited 13th Jan '13 6:51:02 PM by Sijo

Eeeeeh?

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We still have the Acadamy Awards. If Ralph doesn't win that then fml.