A single unified LGBTQ+ conversation

Literally on the same page :p

edited 13th Oct '16 4:17:47 PM by SolipSchism

I find it funny how he thinks it's some kind of conspiracy rather than accepting they just realized he's an asshole.

Going out of area with the NHS is a huge pain though, you have to basically slog though a ton of shit to get funding approval and then they actually refer you to the OTC to area doctor, who you then have to chase up a bunch. It's why I'm over a year into trying to get my ASD/ASC diagnosis and still haven't got an apolintment yet.

I am part of an orwellian conspiracy. :D It's so exciting!

Yes... ALL your friends are conspiring against you to try to make you think you are an a-hole.

The real conspiracy is that he even had friends in the first place.

uh, hello, nice to meet you; I don't know if I shoul`d post this here, but I don't think It goes on the lgtbq character thread on witer's block, since I just wanna complain about something. The "gay coded" characters, I mean i don't get it, I read that disney did a lot of these in it's animated films (since there cannot be gay character on something aimed for kids); for example ursula, who is supoused to be a lesbian for the way she acts and how she looks, and where supoused to take that as something good? I mean, Isn't that stereotyping? I know it's not saying that all lesbians are like that, but it's saying that because she's like that shes a lesbian; wich doesn't seem like something we should think, that just because someone acts in some way it means that they're gay/str8/lesb/trans etc?

Also, something that doesn't have to do with the thread (or this section of the forum), but is a dobut that I have regarding this

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13874236180A77559900&page=1

does posting a link to your work, that is in other page, counts as publishing it here? and giving a sipnosis or a resumen does, or doesn't?

Definitely the wrong place to ask the second question. Links don't count as publishing. of what they link to.

First question, You'd have to ask the original artists if they coded in characters to their animations. If you read ursula as lesbian otherwise, that is your interpretation alone. If you read her as stereotypical, then the problem is she is stereotypical.

Yes coding a character gay is stereotyping and it's not a particularly good thing, especially in this day and age.

It made sense a bit more when including an explicitly gay character on your show would get the script canned and you fired, so the only way to get any gay representation would be to sneak it past via coding.

Ursula was based on a drag queen. Just look. It's great.

The best example of a gay-coded character is Scar from The Lion King. He's also Jeremy Irons' best-known character, which is sad because watching him scream, "WE ARE THE POPE OF ROME" is so much better.

edited 13th Oct '16 10:09:34 PM by SpaceWolf

Wait, how is Scar gay-coded?

I kind of get what you mean, but just linking a clip doesn't help.

http://colorwebmag.com/2015/05/21/queer-coding-scar-the-lion-king/

You're telling me that a clip isn't a good demonstration of camp gay cues?

that, too

edited 13th Oct '16 10:52:47 PM by SpaceWolf

The clip just gives me Nazi vibes.

It's like that Doctor Who audio where the camp gay character turned out to be secretly aiding the Nazis.

Plus, I just took it as him being the runt of the litter due to his appearance. I mean, his real name translates to "worthless" for God's sakes; his parents did not have high expectations for the man even as a cub.

Okay, the xenophobic rant song may not have been the best clip. There's another scene in Sixy's link.

You were supposed to be paying attention to the mannerisms.

edited 13th Oct '16 10:57:57 PM by SpaceWolf

Camp Straight is a thing that exists though. I mean, he had a son didn't he?

Yes, because we all know gay people are absolutely incapable of carrying on with the opposite sex well enough to reproduce.

The point of queer-coding is that the character doesn't have to be gay; they merely have to evoke a stereotype of being gay to the audience, which is implicitly supposed to connect the supposed gayness to the villainy of the character.

edited 13th Oct '16 11:02:15 PM by SpaceWolf

I'm just not seeing the connection then.

In other words, Sissy Villain.

Hrm...◊

Hmmm hmmm.