Is this necessary: Did Not Get The Boy

The much older article Did Not Get the Girl specifies "Despite the name this trope can just as easily apply to not getting the guy." This point was raised when Did Not Get the Boy was in ykttw, and the OP ignored it and launched anyway.

Should we formally split Did Not Get the Girl based on gender, or should we just delete the new page?

Is Did Not Get the Girl long enough to warrant a split? I'd personally prefer keeping it on one page since the gender isn't an important aspect of the trope.

I support merging.

Would Did Not Get The Love Interest be better?

1. I only launched it as a test trope. I say you're free to delete if you wish. 2. same as above reply. 3. ok, it's a good idea, since these examples aren't yet on the Did Not Get the Girl section. 4. also a good idea.

Also, to add on my 4th reply, we can rename the current Did Not Get the Girl title to Did Not Get The Love Interest so it won't be one gender only. Anyone is free to merge examples/delete this trope if the trope title change is to be done.

edited 21st Apr '11 9:20:41 AM by arnoldmcguire335

It's not one gender only. See Unisex Tropes.

I quite like Did Not Get The Love Interest.

I'd prefer to keep it Did Not Get the Girl with Boy and Love Interest as redirects. To "get the girl" is sort of a stock phrase for discussing movie plots.

Keep Did Not Get the Girl as the title and just make a Did Not Get The Guy redirect. It sounds better than using 'love interest.'

Did Not Get the Girl is not Always Female, so there's no reason to split off a male version when male examples can already go on the main trope.

I'd rather just redirect this to Did Not Get the Girl. It's a nice redirect, but it doesn't need to be a separate trope.

To be fair, as a romance-related trope it is probably subject to gender-related Double Standard issues and in turn subject to a difference in implications depending on the genders. That was enough reason to have Crazy Jealous Guy separate from Clingy Jealous Girl.

Sure, but I don't think it is the case here. This is a plot trope, not a character trope, for one thing. Ultimately, Double Standard doesn't apply here. A merge is in order. Both Did Not Get The Guy and Did Not Get The Love Interst are good redirects.

I think the renaming of the Did Not Get the Girl to Did Not Get The Love Interest still sounds great, as well as merging the other examples.

edited 22nd Apr '11 9:22:06 AM by arnoldmcguire335

And we are currently at 18-1 in favor of merging.

Get a crowner going for "girl" vs "love interest"?

That would technically be a single prop rename crowner, since Did Not Get the Girl already covers both variations.

edited 22nd Apr '11 5:55:01 PM by Clarste

Am I the only one who thinks changing the title to Love Interest makes it sound clunky and provides no benefit in return? At least none that just making a redirect like Did Not Get The Guy wouldn't solve?

I prefer that if a gender neutral trope is really just that, it should have a gender neutral title with the boy and girl as redirects.

I agree. It sounds clunky and like a rename for the sake of a rename that the trope doesn't need. Just keep it as is.

Sounds ridiculously clunky and serves no purpose. I'd also vote to keep the name.

It's not renaming just for the sake of renaming; it's renaming in order to remove Male Gaze.

Well, the crowner is 21 points in the green. I guess it is time for a merge.

People are staring lecherously at a trope? I see the problems with tvtropes went deeper than I thought.