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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#101: Mar 31st 2012 at 1:51:52 PM

As I was fixing the namespaces of the Ace Attorney wicks, I found some anime article called Bomberman Jetters which is in the correct namespace, but turns out the page in the main namespace was not made a redirect, and now we have 2 different articles for the same work (Bomberman Jetters -> main Bomberman Jetters -> anime). What a mess.

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Jicragg Since: Jun, 2010
#102: Apr 1st 2012 at 6:29:11 PM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 1:48:52 PM by Jicragg

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#103: Apr 4th 2012 at 4:52:40 PM

Spoiler Opening has some really ugly, um, spoilered examples in Anime and Manga and Video Games sections. I don't know enough about either topic to sort it out. Anyone?

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#104: Apr 4th 2012 at 6:20:59 PM

[up] Since it's a spoiler trope and has the warning, can't we just strip all the spoiler tags out?

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#105: Apr 4th 2012 at 6:59:34 PM

I've always had issues with the spoiler tags being taken out of spoiler tropes either way. Examples help us get a better understanding of the trope but most people don't want to have stuff they may get into spoiled for them. It's really counter productive.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#106: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:09:20 PM

But if the page as identifies itself a spoiler trope and says they are to be expected or doesn't need markup, you should probably avoid works your interested in. It doesn't make sense when the page says that they are not necessary and there are spoiler markup all over it.

edited 4th Apr '12 7:15:31 PM by Oreochan

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#107: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:15:23 PM

That's the problem no page should be a spoiler free-zone, even spoiler tropes. Tropes Are Tools that help us understand fiction, understanding how a trope is used at it's core comes in the examples. Even the best descriptions can only give so much insight. Examples are where we are shown how the trope works instead of being told how it works.

If a trope is filled with unmarked spoilers then most people won't go to it beyond the surface of the page, and in most cases won't get a full understanding of the trope which can lead to misuse and under performance.

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#108: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:26:31 PM

That's true but people also don't like seeing seas of white space, as it's hard on the eyes and the spoilers may not even be a spoiler to begin with. I personally think spoilers should be only be removed if they are excessive, unneeded or obscure a important part of the trope.

edited 4th Apr '12 7:40:48 PM by Oreochan

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#109: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:35:12 PM

Understandable.

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#110: Apr 5th 2012 at 4:44:07 AM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 1:38:49 PM by Jicragg

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#111: Apr 5th 2012 at 4:44:44 AM

[up]This.

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#112: Apr 6th 2012 at 8:41:57 PM

To Love Ru needs help. I tried to scrub a little perversity, but there's scanlation links galore. It's at least a two person job. some natter too...

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#113: Apr 8th 2012 at 4:20:03 PM

I took out the links. While some where fairly innocuous many where not. I also tried to make sure the examples made sense with out the links.

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Goldstone Since: Jan, 2012
#115: Apr 12th 2012 at 12:34:36 AM

Can you help me turn PaleSkinnedBrunette into either Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette or Raven Hair, Ivory Skin as well as alphabetize them. It's less than 200 pages. It won't be long.

edited 12th Apr '12 12:35:20 AM by Goldstone

Goldstone Since: Jan, 2012
#116: Apr 12th 2012 at 3:37:59 AM

Please replace EstrogenBrigadeBait with the trope Mr. Fanservice. And if the character does show any fanservice, then simply remove EstrogenBrigadeBait.

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#117: Apr 12th 2012 at 7:35:29 AM

"This is a spoiler page" should really mean "this trope is such that simply mentioning a work may well be a spoiler." Doesn't mean the details can't be spoilered.

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#118: Apr 12th 2012 at 10:28:48 AM

[up]Yes.

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#119: Apr 13th 2012 at 3:41:46 PM

[up][up][up] I think you meant "does not show fanservice", because your current phrasing does not make sense.

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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#120: Apr 13th 2012 at 3:57:45 PM

Is anyone already working on getting rid of the Naughty Tentacles wicks?

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#121: Apr 13th 2012 at 7:10:12 PM

^ I thought we were planning to eventually bring the page back in SFW form.

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Akagikiba Surfing the forums from Midwest Since: Feb, 2012
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#122: Apr 13th 2012 at 9:35:08 PM

It's gone right now, so I'll skim through the wiki and remove all Naughty Tentacles.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#123: Apr 14th 2012 at 7:25:01 AM

Characters.Brutal Series and Characters.Histeria need YMMV cleanup.

edited 14th Apr '12 7:41:30 AM by SeptimusHeap

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jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#124: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:57:04 AM

I'd like to clean up Plot with Porn, as it has some overly detailed examples. Witness, just from the Anime section: Yosuga no Sora, Yuria 100 Shiki, Take on me (very creepy lolicon vibes in the example) and various more.

I wonder whether I should also remove all examples relating to hentai titles, since those were cut recently, or at least comment them out.

edited 14th Apr '12 10:57:19 AM by jkbeta

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#125: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:59:14 AM

[up]No on your second question. You can un-Wiki Word them, but deleting them is vandalism.

That being said, given recent events I wouldn't be above a fiat-imposed Example Sectionectomy.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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