Rename: For The Cel Of It

The prime rule when choosing a trope title is that if there is a pre-existing term, use that. If not, choose one that is clear, concise, and clever, or failing that, clear.

For The Cel Of It fails on several counts, and thus should be changed to Cel Shading.

1. Cel Shading is a pre-existing term, and what the trope is actually called. For The Cel Of It is a horrendous pun suggested by one peson in the YKTTW, an act which nobody else commented on.
2. It is not entirely clear. For The Cel Of It looks like it means using cel shading when realistic textures would have been better.
3. It is not concise. ForTheCelOfIt has CelShading a whole extra letter; having to keep pressing shift adds another three keystrokes.
4. It is not clever. Cel only vaguely resembles Hell, and the pun has nothing to do with the trope. It's stupid.

Hence, I propose that For The Cel Of It be renamed Cel Shading. With the ptitle replacement system, this can be accomplished without disrupting any inbound links.

edited 6th Mar '11 6:18:30 AM by VampireBuddha

General support.

Oh yeah. Oh hell, yeah, I support this.

Incidentally, VB, I'd also like to commend you on a practically perfect opening post for a rename thread. You put all the reasons in support of renaming in clear, concise coherent form. Very nicely done!

edited 6th Mar '11 7:38:33 AM by Madrugada

I'll look to that as a model for describing my rename proposals.

Pro rename.

Support too. For The Cel Of It, as a pun, makes me think if gratuitous cel-shading, and that's not the point.

For The Cel Of It would be a good name for gratuitous cel-shading, but it's a terrible name for the basic concept.

So should we do a definition swap and make it a Sub-Trope? The definition would be if an installment has cel shading when it's not in other installments (at least those with Polygonal Graphics). Thus Red Steel 2 and some of The Legend Of Zelda games would fit, but not Dragon Quest VIII or IX, since that series isn't known for standard texturing anyway.

@ OP: Cel yes.

@ Shale: The cell-shading equivalent of Conspicuous CG then?

Something like that, sure. I'm a lot more sure about the name than any particulars of the (hypothetical) trope.

For The Cel Of It is a poorly-thought out name trying to be witty. Yay for changing.

How does one say that something is cel-shaded gratuitously though?

Another +1 for renaming to Cel Shading.

For the suggested other trope, what are we thinking? A trope like Conspicuous CG and Sprite/Polygon Mix? Something else?

For the Sprite/Polygon Mix type trope, I can think of at least one - Wild Arms 3 had cel shaded sprites but traditionally shaded 3D backgrounds. Perhaps we should YKTTW that to see if it's common.

EDIT: Hmm, I think The Legend Of Zelda Spirit Tracks had that, too. But I could be misremembering.

edited 7th Mar '11 6:31:12 AM by ccoa

The pun isn't that bad, and is kind of fun. I wouldn't mind if it kept it's Punny name...although the odds of it being kept are extremely low...

_+1 for Rename... the Cel Shading fad seems to have died down recently. (Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 will have an option to change from normal gfx to Cel Shading.)

edited 7th Mar '11 6:30:37 AM by Raso

"How does one say that something is cel-shaded gratuitously though?"

As I stated, if other games in the series are not.

I support the rename. Makes more sense, although the pun is funny. Cel Shading just works better.

Supporting the rename — this name should have been for Conspicuous Cel or Gratuitous Cel.

As I stated, if other games in the series are not

What about the games that use it for artistic purposes (e.g. Zelda), or those trying to emulate the anime/cartoony style found in 2D sprites?

edited 7th Mar '11 12:31:35 PM by Ookamikun

One entry in a series being cel shaded is not "gratuitous," unless you're using a completely different meaning of the word (that is, different from uncalled for; lacking good reason; unwarranted).

I don't think it's even possible for cel shading to be gratuitous.

Okay, then whatever word or phrase means "isn't typical for the series, but for this installment, we decided to do it".

Can you explain why such a subtrope would be necessary in the first place?

I think it would be confusing to have a trope for cel-shaded works, and another one for... cel-shaded works that follow non-cel-shaded works in the same series.

The occurrence of one-off cel-shaded works within a series might be interesting, but I think it's too narrow for its own trope. Is there a broader trope out there about works with an art/animation style distinct from the rest of the series?

Oh, and Cel Shading would be great.

I support the swap. The pun isn't even clever. I mean, come on.

Wow, I was expecting a bunch of people to protest that since it isn't being misused it shouldn't be renamed. Your approval fills me with whatever the opposite of shame is.

I'll let this thread stew for another day just in case anyone else wants to have their say, but it looks like the consensus is to rename.

I agree that "one cel shaded entry in an otherwise <other art style> series" is a little too narrow for a trope. A better trope is the previously suggested "one different art style in an otherwise <other art style> series". I'm not convinced there's enough examples for cel shading alone to make a trope just for that.

I'd suggest making the broader super trope, and soft splitting it by the type of art style that is in the divergent entry. (pixel art, vector art, cel shaded, realistic 3D, etc). If one of those entries grows to take over the page, then split.

EDIT: I think there's enough of the Cel/3D mix to make a trope along the lines of Sprite/Polygon Mix. I will YKTTW it for now, and we can hash out whether to give it the For The Cel Of It name later.

edited 8th Mar '11 8:14:56 AM by ccoa

The name is unnecessarily snarky, as though it's an instance of gratuitous cel-shading. Absolutely no reason not to rename it.