Should this only apply to certain works and universes: Most Common Super Power

The point of this trope, least from what I'm reading in the description, is that female metahumans and Badass Normal tend to have big breasts.

So wouldn't it make more sense if the trope applied to works or universes where that was actually the case instead of any big breasted superherione regardless of the rarity of figure among other superheriones in their universe?

edited 10th Feb '11 12:34:36 PM by captainpat

Whatever else happens, a quick glance through the wicks shows that this trope is in need of cleanup. Again. There are even bad examples on the page itself. thump

edited 10th Feb '11 12:40:58 PM by ccoa

I think the trope itself is fine as is.

We really need a super trope for Large Breasts, Buxom Is Better has some misuse again too.

edited 10th Feb '11 12:42:02 PM by Raso

But "large breasts" isn't a trope. I realize that this would help with the misuse of this, Buxom Is Better, and Gag Boobs, but I really think it's a mistake to make a "trope" we know isn't a trope.

edited 10th Feb '11 12:43:02 PM by ccoa

Well Drawing someone with big breasts in Anime and such and casting someone in a movie that has this IMO is a specific Fanservice trope especially if its referenced inside the work.

Arguably most of the misuse is from Drawn works and not always Buxom Is Better or Most Common Super Power (Specifically when every girl in the work has them and such) but meh .

edited 10th Feb '11 12:54:14 PM by Raso

I think one of the problems is that Buxom Is Better sounds like a fanservice trope, and I can't think of anything we could name it that wouldn't be taken as a fan service trope.

Well, there's the plain, descriptive Buxom Is More Attractive, maybe.

I've often thought this trope should be only for aversions and subversions and the like, as it's so pervasive.

That's what we do with its supertrope, Heroic Build.

EDIT: Ack, that's underwent some bad examples, too. What part of "superhero" is so hard to understand?

edited 10th Feb '11 2:24:11 PM by ccoa

limiting this trope to Subversions, Justification, Lampshadings, or anything else that other than being played straight would seem like the best idea to me. This trope way too pervasive, in fact how would you even play this "trope" straight? The whole premise is that Superheroes tend to have big breasts, just because something tends to happens doesn't really make it tropable or at the very least a trope that needs straight examples.

...just because something tends to happens doesn't really make it tropable or at the very least a trope that needs straight examples.

I'm not following you. "Something that tends to happen" is practically the basis for every trope on the wiki. Virtually every page is writes up the occurrence of a trope with phrases like "tends to", "usually", and "typically" because very, very little ever happens ONE particular way all the time.

However, I have seen Most Common Superpower used to refer to things that have nothing to do with superheroes and comic book characters and used as a substitute phrase for "person with large breasts," which doesn't seem right.

Comic Books and Super Heroes arnt the only ones who can fall under this though other mediums can have the Strong Heroic Girl With Powers = Just Got To Have Big Breasts (or not so heroic.)

The Rivals Kaede (Ninja) and Mana (Sniper) in Negima both fit this trope very well. 2nd and 3rd largest busts in the class very gravity defying and look good in skin tight clothing and are considered to be the some of the strongest of the female fighters. (Setsuna is among them but her body type is more Yamato Nadeshiko.)

The list right now seems ok to me without having to go to that.

edited 12th Feb '11 8:33:01 AM by Raso

Wouldn't that be Boobs Of Steel then? There are lot superpowered, or Badass Normal types in Negima and don't they have varying cupsizes?

edited 12th Feb '11 8:33:21 AM by captainpat

Only those three start out strong (Kaede is from a ninja family and other two are Half Demons) and the artist made sure of their body type. Down to 89 cm (for Kaede) vs 88.9 cm (Mana)bust sizes... He wanted this trope for these two. (Made them nearly equal in power too although Kaede wins each time they face off.)

edited 12th Feb '11 9:01:51 AM by Raso

^^^Either way, it's not supposed to be used to mean "large breasts" or "person with large breasts," as I see it used to refer to people as irrelevant to this trope as Katy Perry.

edited 12th Feb '11 8:40:30 AM by SeanMurrayI

or Giada from the Food Network

The point I'm trying to get across is that Negima, to my knowledge anyway, features a lot of other females that aren't as busty as the ones you mentioned and also have superpowers. So the bodytypes of those three characters isn't exclusive or predominant to meta-humans or Badass Normal in Negima.

If bustsize is supposed to be indicate of the strength level of a character then that's Boobs Of Steel.

edited 12th Feb '11 9:14:12 AM by captainpat

bump

Well, in Negima, someone of basically every body type has done something, somewhere. Its only got every female character stereotype ever invented.

Its worth noting that out of the 2-A girls, the only one bigger than the two mentioned above is held in utter terror by several of the most powerful people in manga, despite being (...as far as we know...) normal.

So yeah, Kaede and Mana certainly seem to fit for this.

...all of that being said, the trope is terribly misused, in general.

Except for the bit about being superheroes or supervillains. They fail that bit of the trope and that's why they don't count for it.

Well yes, if we're going to restrict it solely to the Western concept, yeah. People keep wanting to expand it past that, and it does exist outside that niche, so we either need another trope, or a widening of this one.

The real problem is its being used for "girl who has big boobs and is kinda strong", which is obviously wrong, regardless.

edited 26th Feb '11 7:17:10 PM by SakurazakiSetsuna

Except the trope is that Superheroes and Supervillains have large chests. That's it. Whole trope.

It doesn't need to be expanded. There are actual superheroes in some Eastern works. The work you cited just doesn't happen to be one. Just because your favourite series doesn't have an example of a trope doesn't mean there's something wrong with the trope.

edited 26th Feb '11 7:21:42 PM by shimaspawn

BTW, can we get a quote that actually has to do with the trope? Just because the trope was inspired by Calvin And Hobbes (as in it wasn't directly named by it) doesn't mean it makes a good page quote, when the line is about costumes, not breasts.

Err, that quote does explain the trope. I'm not sure what your issue with it is. They're talking about her figure.

I find it interesting that everyone is always no anime only trope ect and the second that anime examples get close to a western trope people are screeming foul.

Kaede is a ninja who likes the magic world because she can do good there helping people like doing odd jobs for villages like fighting dragons ect the real world had no real need for ninjas

And Mana is a Half demon Merc who will join whoever has the cash both keep what they are a secret except to a select few or when they fight. (There is a Masquerade going on) Western Superheroes and villains are these too.

Eva's prefered vampire form is this too and she refers to herself as the Evil Last Boss. She maybe a Noble Demon but damn if she isn't feared by every mage in existance and a 6 million price on her head for trying to take over the world.

edited 26th Feb '11 7:43:55 PM by Raso

No, "squeeze that figure into that suit" means the figure is too large for the suit, not that breasts specifically are always large.