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SoloWingPixy Since: Sep, 2009
#51: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:47:46 AM

For a moment I thought that deltib was an okay fellow, until he learned Mapi (hello by the way) was a girl. Perhaps he's been ridiculed over this a bit too many times and wrongly assumed you were about to do the same? Though the way he carried himself onwards is not doing himself any favors either.

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#52: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:52:05 AM

Signed: Did you see his freakout towards the end of the conversation? Like Pixy said, as soon as he learned Mapi was female, he went nuts.

I also have to wonder if he thinks liking real women means he has to give up his anime girls. It's certainly possible to appreciate both, but he seems too frightened to understand.

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MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#53: Jan 24th 2011 at 12:57:23 AM

^^ He mistook all my advice for "forcing my opinions on him". Cute the BAWWWWWWW-ing.

Also hi, by what former handle did you go as?

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#54: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:00:31 AM

I'm fairly positive that he acted that way on purpose. This IS the internet afterall.

Is the Angry Video Game Nerd a F-bomb spamming angry nerd who hates everything in real life?...................I honestly don't know if he really is, but probably not.

edited 24th Jan '11 1:00:53 AM by Signed

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SoloWingPixy Since: Sep, 2009
#55: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:03:37 AM

This is my very first handle actually, sorry. I'm still something of a newcomer here, I haven't posted very much on these forums so far. Maybe a staggering eight times? >///<

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#56: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:06:58 AM

But not all PSL is targeted at female characters...and even girls have PSL too.

Well, yeah. I'd assume that's where things like Most Fanfic Writers Are Female come from (incidentally, the picture for Perverse Sexual Lust is of two girls ogling(?) a Kamina board). The thing is there seems to be far less (reported) incidents involving women lusting after fictional characters.

btw, is it only misogyny to lust after 2D characters?

No, it's misogyny when the reasoning seems to stem from a hatred of real women. The basic implications of people who prefer 2D girls is the (misguided) belief that these girls will like and accept the luster. The "appeal" is just a want of someone who dotes over him like he sees in anime/manga/whatnot and not an actual person  *

.

I've read the chat (it was painful), but most of the others had said what I wanted to say about it.

@Signed: No, the Nerd is a Mean Character, Nice Actor.

edited 24th Jan '11 1:19:04 AM by Customer

MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
mya~!
#57: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:10:59 AM

^^ Oh I see. Hi, hope you have fun here.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
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#58: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:15:57 AM

Customer: And what's worse, if you tried to do what a lot of nerds insist on and try to explain to him what he's doing wrong, he'd still take it personally and go "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND."

In cases like this, melting their heads down for beautiful pewter figurines  *

would be more useful than trying to get them to learn anything. x.x

edited 24th Jan '11 1:16:28 AM by lee4hmz

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MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#59: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:17:37 AM

I just won't touch on the topic again. I'll just ponder on the fact that he'll end up getting his sperm on his monitor in due course.

which leads to the Fridge Logic of the 2D otaku not realizing (or ignoring) the possibility that, if his object of desire happened to pop into reality, there's a good chance she'd also reject him
deltib is a total Fate Testarossa fanboy, so if this were to happen then odds are he'd get rejected simply because Fate is Nanohasexual.

edited 24th Jan '11 1:19:11 AM by MiyaKousaka

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
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#60: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:19:12 AM

Now I'm wondering what would happen if he somehow managed to get the monitor pregnant. This is a sign that I need sleep, bad.

Also, ahahahahaha. I seriously doubt deltib is a beautiful redhead, either.

edited 24th Jan '11 1:21:05 AM by lee4hmz

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#61: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:23:11 AM

The worst part about reading an argument involving shitheads is being able to see where they're coming from.

MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#62: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:24:43 AM

^ ditto.

It's even worse for me because on top of everything, they're misogynistic.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
SoloWingPixy Since: Sep, 2009
#63: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:25:20 AM

Thank you, I'll try ^^ (as embarasing as some of the things are here >///<)

toalordsothe Not a Dong from Hell, Michigan Since: Oct, 2009
Not a Dong
#64: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:26:56 AM

After reading this thread and seeing the kind of people that this sort of problem would effect I've decided there is no negative effect on society and that the people with their fictional wives are doing us a favor and cutting their re-productive matter out of the gene pool.

CAUSE EVERY GIRL IS CRAZY 'BOUT A SHARP DRESSED MAN
ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#65: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:27:20 AM

Which is the reason why this proud geek is historysexual.

After reading this thread and seeing the kind of people that this sort of problem would effect I've decided there is no negative effect on society and that the people with their fictional wives are doing us a favor and cutting their re-productive matter out of the gene pool.

Harsh, but true.

edited 24th Jan '11 1:27:55 AM by ArgeusthePaladin

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MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#66: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:28:42 AM

It's no small wonder that they get rejected by girls so easily. I can say with fair honesty that I'm a nice girl but I had to expend a lot of willpower not to snap at them.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
toalordsothe Not a Dong from Hell, Michigan Since: Oct, 2009
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#67: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:30:18 AM

Meh bitter misogyny is always hard to swallow, and sadly most people spouting it don't realize what tool boxes they sound like.

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TheChubbyDestroyer OOPS from Stage 1 Underground Since: Oct, 2010
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#68: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:55:27 AM

I'm just wondering. What are your opinions regarding the relationship between misogyny and attraction to 2D girls? Is misogyny caused by attraction to 2d girls or vice-versa?

I think I did something last night...
ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#69: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:58:31 AM

I think the rationale here is that guys who are into 2D girls are into a kind of submissive women who tends to his every whim and not resist or make any demand in return. Kind of like a slave in both the labor sense and the sexual sense. Of course, this is the rationale dran out by psychologists, but it is easy (and indeed makes sense) that some of the dudes who are into 2D girls are not like that. Or so they may claim.

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MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#70: Jan 24th 2011 at 1:58:50 AM

It could go either way in my opinion. Misogyny leading to like for 2D girls would be like those guys I was talking to. The other way around would be someone who just so happens to be already into 2D girls, and then they're hit by the harsh reality of real women.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#71: Jan 24th 2011 at 2:02:04 AM

And another thing I cannot stress enough - PSL does not cause misogyny. Lack of respect for women had existed since the time the tribal society was disbanded and matriachy was replaced by patriachy, long, long ago. And I doubt it would go away any time now.

Let's take a look at this example from the Byzantine Empire (I am out of left field here, but I just wanna toss this in)

"nature had mistaken their sexes, for he ought to have been the woman."

- Anna Comnena, upon finding out that her husband didn't habe the spine to usurp the throne from her brother -

edited 24th Jan '11 2:04:20 AM by ArgeusthePaladin

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MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
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#72: Jan 24th 2011 at 2:03:36 AM

I wouldn't say it would be as bad as misogyny but if they really were into 2D girls before disliking women, then real women must be a letdown for them.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#73: Jan 24th 2011 at 2:05:00 AM

That much is true. Though, that does not automatically guarantee they would hate women as a response.

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toalordsothe Not a Dong from Hell, Michigan Since: Oct, 2009
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#74: Jan 24th 2011 at 2:09:00 AM

Honestly those guys were just running on some pretty severe Insane Troll Logic I read the logs and that's the only way I can see it.

CAUSE EVERY GIRL IS CRAZY 'BOUT A SHARP DRESSED MAN
ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#75: Jan 24th 2011 at 2:10:28 AM

Well, I have a tendency to overanalyze stuffs. And you know, you cannot spell "Overanalyze" without "anal".

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