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  • When Noah is listing off all the reasons why he and his family are also sinful, he says "Shem is blinded by desire, Ham is covetous, and Japheth lives only to please." Wait, what? How can living to please others possibly be considered sinful or bad by any standard?
    • He might mean it to say Japeth is a suck-up, and has no spine of his own to stand up against requests he knows are wrong.
    • Moreover, Noah's position (which is intended to be unrealistically-extreme) is that even his and Naameh's willingness to kill in defense of their sons' lives is an unpardonable evil. This is hypocritical on the one hand - after all, most of the "innocent" animals he's saving adhere to the same standard; for many of the herbivores, defending their young is the only reason they'd kill - and an explanation for why he can't acknowledge Japeth's selflessness as a good thing, on the other: he expects the boy would only grow up to be a Papa Wolf too.
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    • I think we're not supposed to agree with Noah's stance here. From what I gather, he's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole - trying to back up his increasing paranoia that humanity is bad. What he lists about his sons are Informed Flaws that foreshadow how his viewpoint is wrong.
  • If the descendants of Cain were so industrial, why didn't they use the abundant wood to build their own ark?
    • Probably Tubal-Cain didn't tell them about the approaching deluge, because they'd have done just that rather than formed the army he wanted. For him, hijacking Noah's ark was about power and saying Screw Destiny to God, not just about personal or cultural survival.
    • Tubal-Cain may have figured that he couldn't build enough arks to save all his people, and they'd end up fighting for seats before they got any arks finished. If so, hijacking Noah's ark was his best chance to save some of his people.
  • Come to that, if it was such an advanced society, how is it there were no other boats just lying around that people could use? More of a headscratcher against the original story than anything but still.
    • That's a problem that a lot of skeptic have pointed out for ages, we know about fisher cultures with very good navigation skills existing since the Bronze Age, specially in the Pacific.
  • Was that a dinosaur that Noah sees slaughtered in the Ark just before Tubal-Cain attacks him?
    • If you look closely, you will see it has long ears. It's actually an Aardvark
      • Then why are there still aardvarks? :P More seriously, it's probably some other fossil species which resembles an aardvark in that case, or otherwise a fantasy creature much like the other animals killed by the Cainites.
      • Maybe the female aardvark was already pregnant with a male offspring when she boarded the Ark, and Tubal-Cain ate the adult male? It's not as if the genetic bottleneck for every species could get much worse, after all...
    • It could be a Genius Bonus bit of Fridge Brilliance: one of the aardvark's claims to fame is that it's a mammal with no close living relatives. Presumably it used to have some in the film's Verse, before Tubal-Cain ate its sister species.
    • Not sure if told in the movie but in the original story not all animals were in pairs of two, some animals had seven pairs.
  • So what was that creature that Noah sees the Cainite poachers hunting at the beginning?
    • It had scales like a pangolin, so could've been a relative of that family that no longer exists thanks to the Cainites. Could be a Genius Bonus, as genetic analysis places pangolins as a sister taxon to carnivores, so it could be a transitional form from before the former became specialist insect-nest raiders.
  • If the Watchers only formed a half circle formation around the Ark (seen in the scene where the raindrop falls on Noah's eye), couldn't the Cainites just walk around them and take the ark?
    • They were advancing in a huge mass, which doesn't work so well through dense trees. Especially not against opponents who are big and strong enough to push those trees over on your advancing ranks.
  • Wouldn't Noah killing Illa's children not be enough to secure humanity's extinction? As far as can be told, she's completely healed and should be able to have more kids even if her first birth was boys, yet he says nothing about killing her too.
    • For that matter, he doesn't consider the possibility of castrating all three of his own sons rather than killing anyone.
    • Because he clearly doesn't want to kill his grandchildren since y'know he doesn't in the end. On some level he knew it was wrong but he was so focused on the mission that he nearly did anyway.
  • Isn't it a Broken Aesop that, despite all the film's environmental screeds and the emphasis on how every individual animal on the Ark is priceless, old Methuselah - supposedly a paragon of wisdom and grace - scours the forest until he can find and eat the last berry on Earth? Berries are seeds, after all, so he's most likely nomming a species right down into extinction just like the Cainites have been doing. And not even for his own survival, but just so he can Go Out with a Smile.

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