History YMMV / Vinesauce

* CharacterPerceptionEvolution: Vlinny started life in 2014 as a joke Mii in ''WebVideo/VinesauceTomodachiLife'' that duplicated Vinny's Mii but included a V-shaped mouth as a nod to the UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS' notoriously imperfect photo-to-Mii feature. The character quickly became an EnsembleDarkhorse in spite of his intentionally forgettable design; however, Vlinny's following also attracted people who started using him as a proxy for Vinny in fan content, usually for {{shipping}} purposes, with some going so far as [[UsefulNotes/{{Otherkin}} kinning]] him. This led to vocal CreatorBacklash from Vinny that led to him tightening the rules on the [[ImageBooru Vinebooru]]. Vlinny consequently remains a huge BaseBreakingCharacter among Vinesauce fans to this day, with most people choosing to ignore the character's existence to prevent the risk of flame wars.

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Vlinny, big time. He began as a minor character on Vinny's FanficFuel-rich ''WebVideo/VinesauceTomodachiLife'' series before becoming a huge EnsembleDarkhorse, in part because of being a quirky AmbiguouslyEvil [[CloneDegeneration Vinny clone]] with surprising ties to the series' grander MythArc. To this day Vlinny still remains ''astoundingly'' popular and regularly receives fanart and headcanons despite not appearing in Vinny's content for over half a decade. However, due to CharacterPerceptionEvolution he has become just as loathed by the other half of the fanbase because of the ''other'' reason for his popularity: his fans are largely made up of Vinny's EstrogenBrigade, particularly the kind who are actively into {{Shipping}} fanfiction and treat him as a Vinny stand-in for SlashFic and PerverseSexualLust purposes or who outright [[RealPersonFic ship him with Vinny]], which has led to issues with booru flooding and made Vinny uncomfortable enough to disavow the character entirely.

* UncannyValley:
** Ima's act of pretending to be 12 years old throws many off guard. That she uses it for PowerPerversionPotential does certainly not help matters even though it's PlayedForLaughs and she assures that she's just joking.
** Baby Hazel and friends in the games Rev streams.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: During Vinny's first stream of ''VideoGame/AnotherMetroid2Remake'' (a fan-made remake of ''VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus''), he repeatedly jokes about Nintendo "celebrating" ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}''[='s=] 30th anniversary by issuing a cease-and-desist notice against the game. Less than a day later, the game's staff announced on Twitter that the game actually ''was'' taken down by Nintendo.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** One of the levels from Vinny's 2015 ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosX'' contest was based on the WebVideo/VinesauceTomodachiLife streams and featured Sponge being DrivenToSuicide after Music/DavidBowie (his best friend in those streams) is killed. At the time it was intended to be BlackComedy, but the real David Bowie actually did die of liver cancer at the beginning of the following year, removing the (already dark) humor from that part of the level. The level's number, 56, is also the same as the episode number of the David Bowie special of Vinny's ''Tomodachi Life'' streams, during which Vinny removed his Mii out of respect.
** Joel playing and mocking the unreleased ''UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli Boxing'' during SNES Madness Part 2 now comes off as this, given that the stream occurred a mere four days before Ali passed away.
** During Vinny's first stream of ''VideoGame/AnotherMetroid2Remake'' (a fan-made remake of ''VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus''), he repeatedly jokes about Nintendo "celebrating" ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}''[='s=] 30th anniversary by issuing a cease-and-desist notice against the game. Less than a day later, the game's staff announced on Twitter that the game actually ''was'' taken down by Nintendo.
** Rev's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBQIV8euvNE&t=538s "Live Action Flash Games"]] video, which includes a video that heavily features Franchise/{{Batman}}, was released on the same day that Creator/AdamWest died.

** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAIi2A3Jww4 Shrimp Lady]] NPC from Vinny's ''VideoGame/Cyberpunk2077'' became an immediate hit with fans due to her [[WelcomeToCorneria repetitive]] and strangely-voiced dialogue, her [[InvulnerableCivilians invincibility]], and her [[SuperStoicShopkeeper indifference]] to all the bizarre GoodBadBugs Vinny constantly subjects her to. As a result, Vinny's repeated efforts to mess with the Shrimp Lady are considered the highlights of his ''Cyberpunk'' videos, moreso than any of his efforts to progress tbrough the game's story.

** For Joel, [=BonziBUDDY=]. He made it quite clear in his Windows 7 Destruction stream that it would be the last time Bonzi sees light in his videos. This is [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] during his Windows 8 Destruction stream, in which he explains the reason he doesn't like [=BonziBUDDY=]: the reason he found it so humorous at first was not the character itself, but the fact that it was malware trying to masquerade as a kid-friendly cartoon and he feels that by making it a meme, it lost this original point. Vinny came to despise the character around the same time; he was added to the WebVideo/VinesauceTomodachiLife streams when he was still considered funny and deleted around the same time Joel got tired of him.

* OvershadowedByControversy: Pretty much everything good that happened for Vinesauce in 2015[[note]]Including every streamer becoming a Twitch partner, Southbird being discovered by Vinny and later made an official stream editor, and the very successful charity stream[[/note]] was completely overtaken by Joel's channel being hijacked in November. Considering how much panic and exaggeration there was on TV Tropes and other Vinesauce sources during the time, you'd be surprised to known that it lasted for slightly over a week and didn't have too much at stake (for one, the hijacker was a lot less threatening than originally thought to be; for example, Joel's full stream channel was completely unaffected).

* YMMV/TheTownOfNowhere

* YMMV/TheTownofNowhere

** At one point, a good number of Vinny and Joel's fans also happened to be fans of LetsPlay/ProtonJon, due to Jon's tastes and commentary style (particularly during his own streams) being remarkably similar to Vinny's and especially Joel's and due to Jon admitting to liking their work. The overlap was always more visible on Jon's own Twitch channel though, but it wasn't too uncommon to find a regular from Jon's chat in Vinny's or Joel's. Since the end of the 2010's, however, this overlap has shrunk by a considerable amount due to a combination of Jon's streaming style changing heavily and longtime members of Jon's community jumping ship in favor of Vinny and Joel's communities.

* {{Misblamed}}: People accused WebVideo/PeanutButterGamer of stealing footage from Vinny when his ''Super Mario 64'' hacking video featured corruptions that had previously been used by Vinny. He is actually a Vinesauce fan and the video in question featured new footage of corruptions Vinny previously used. The situation regarding attribution was rectified by giving the video a description with very detailed information on where the corruptions and the program they use came from. [=PeanutButterGamer's=] ''Ocarina of Time'' hacking video would later mention the Vinesauce Corrupter by name within the video itself.

* ScapegoatCreator:
** Direboar is responsible for designing and maintaining the team's website. As a result, some people blame any and all problems with the website entirely on him. In 2015, viewers were given another reason to treat him this way when he actually did end up not being able to salvage the original Vinesauce forums when they were lost during maintenance in 2015, which led to the forums having to be rebuilt from scratch.
** Ludicrously enough, a VocalMinority of fans got angry at Vinny for not taking more visible action against Joel's [=YouTube=] and Twitch channels being hijacked as well as at Joel for keeping a low profile during this entire incident. As the hijacker was trying to impersonate the [=YouTuber=] [[https://www.youtube.com/user/ItsBastrin Bastrin]], some viewers were angry at him as well. Vinny himself [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/039/725/5be.png addressed this]], stating that [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech they were "the worst kind of Vinesauce fans"]] and that he believed Google would solve this problem in due time (which, fortunately, is what ended up happening).
** The uploader of the "Fuck Bees" video (who isn't even the original creator of the video, mind you) is angry at Vinny for its meme status and repeatedly slanders him while trolling Vinesauce fans, despite the fact that Vinny, who streamed the mod but had nothing to do with its development, had nothing to do with its inclusion in ''Super Mario Galaxy Repainted'' and would later grow tired of it himself.

** Vinny has mentioned more than once that he does not want [[https://booru.vineshroom.net/post/view/19493search=apple_dave Apple Dave]] (who was created by fan artist Lamango as a "bootleg" version of [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Toad]], similar to how Vinny's Sponge character is a "bootleg" version of Mario) and someone else can "adopt" him instead.

** Vinny has mentioned more than once that he does not want [[https://booru.vineshroom.net/post/view/19493search=apple_dave Apple Dave]] (who was created by fan artist Lamango as a "bootleg" version of [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Toad]], similar to how Vinny's Sponge character is a "bootleg" version of Mario) and someone else can "adopt" him instead. His associates, [[https://www.twitch.tv/jabroni_mike Mike]] and [[https://www.twitch.tv/geepm GPM]], are more than happy to take him in instead.

** [=GeePM=] personally despises WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} and Creator/SethRogen movies, (e.g., ''WesternAnimation/SausageParty'').

** Charlie (LetsPlay/{{Critikal}}) and his friend Andrew (Huggbees) are very well liked whenever they join in a guest stream. While [=Cr1tiK4L=] is very well-known in his own right, Huggbees is becoming very popular due to his deadpan delivery, his dead-on impression of Creator/NicolasCage, and generally being hilarious.

** Vinny has discouraged the over-use of a "Swole [[Franchise/HarryPotter Potter]]" meme because he finds it hilarious and doesn't want to make it become a discredited meme. Again, not helped by GPM, who uses "buff" memes.

** Averted with Vinny's opinion of the "Cube" video that autopilot displayed back when it was a standard feature of the stream, which he brought up in 2016 during a stream of ''VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot'' because that game's cube-shaped collectables reminded him of it. Despite his admission that he resurrected an old meme, his dislike of memes in general, and an abundance of cube-related messages in the chat following the video being shown onscreen, he was content with the fact that he made that particular piece of Vinesauce history relevant again.
** Zigzagged with the infamous ''7 Grand Dad'' meme. Sometimes Joel will change his mind from time to time to see whether or not it's funny, but he has gone on record that he still finds it finds it funny in its original context. He will occasionally reference it in streams, especially with anything ''Flintstones''-related, for the chat to only explode with references to the meme. He'll also occasionally express his distaste for the meme by editing his Spooky Saturday intro by changing how the intro's Joel reacts to Grand Dad, like with a "[[BigShutUp SHUT THE FUCK UP!!]]" or "[[NoJustNoReaction No.... No.]]" Vinny's reaction to it ranges from indifference to annoyance, seeing as there was a stretch of time when people just tried putting Grand Dad in corruption compilations to see how he'd react.

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%% Do not add any information about the recent sexual misconduct accusations towards Vinny until six months have passed (October 2, 2021) and the controversy is still defines people's perceptions of Vinny and/or Vinesauce as a whole. Likewise refrain from posting any information about it elsewhere on this page, both to prevent edit warring over their authenticity and to avoid an excessive amount of focus on Vinny's personal life rather than his material.

%% Do not add any information about the recent sexual misconduct accusations towards Vinny until six months have passed and the controversy is still defines people's perceptions of Vinny and/or Vinesauce as a whole. Likewise refrain from posting any information about it elsewhere on this page, both to prevent edit warring over their authenticity and to avoid an excessive amount of focus on Vinny's personal life rather than his material.

** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAIi2A3Jww4 Shrimp Lady]] NPC from Vinny's ''VideoGame/Cyberpunk2077'' became an immediate hit with fans due to her [[WelcomeToCorneria repetitive]] and strangely-voiced dialogue, her [[InvulnerableCivilians invincibility]], and her [[SuperStoicShopkeeper indifference]] to all the bizarre GoodBadBugs Vinny repeatedly subjects her to. As a result, Vinny's repeated efforts to mess with the Shrimp Lady are considered the highlights of his ''Cyberpunk'' videos, moreso than any of his efforts to progress tbrough the game's story.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** The community is [[BrokenBase rather divided]] about site growth.
** Similarly, the transition in late 2014 from a single shared channel to each team member having their own triggered accusations of fracturing the community. That said, this opinion faded fairly quickly, with positive effects like lesser-known streamers becoming more famous (all of the active streamers managed to become Twitch partners in 2015) and chats generally being more organized outweighing the negatives.

* CriticalResearchFailure: [[https://youtu.be/SCsmMNK4vzs?t=1921 After being attacked by a wasp]] during his stream of GameMod ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels Super Mario Medley]]'', Joel proclaims that wasps "don't really provide a purpose" in the ecosystem other than "destroy". In fact, [[https://www.thoughtco.com/what-good-are-wasps-1968081 wasps play a variety of roles in the ecosystem,]] including fermentation and predation. This could be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by Joel being in an irrational state of mind after having dealt with a wasp.

** A number of newer viewers tend to believe that V-Dub was created to parody the guy who hijacked Joel's channel in November 2015, if only because V-Dub's appearances typically revolve around a fictitious HostileShowTakeover and the timing of V-Dub's appearance in 2015 was just after the incident was resolved. However, the character stretches back to 2012, long before the channel fiasco occurred, and the motive behind V-Dub's creation was always just to parody SmallNameBigEgo dudebro gamers (as the character debuted during the peak of ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty''[='s=] popularity and the duebro attitudes its playerbase is often associated with).

* FandomEnragingMisconception: Never act like Vinny and Joel are the only streamers on Vinesauce. This problem is lessening as time goes on, with site growth leading to most of the other streamers becoming as least recognized, but it still happens often enough that Vinny and Joel themselves sometimes end up calling people out for this. Confusing Vinny and Joel for each other, despite the two sounding nothing alike, is also prone to annoying viewers.