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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The music in the entire show is wonderful, [[https://youtu.be/7daTaJePXGk?si=WFwv1KNGSIgZkf1c but "Ethan's Waltz" may just stand out as one of the most beautiful pieces from the entire soundtrack.]] It perfectly captures the very brief time that both Ethan and Vanessa were completely alone together and completely ''happy'' together.
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* EvilIsSexy:
** [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon Dorian Gray]].
** Dr. Sweet, [[spoiler: aka Dracula]].
** Hecate Poole.

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** Season 2's BigBad is Madame Kali, whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. One top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.

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** Season 2's BigBad is [[BloodCountess Madame Kali, Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. One top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
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** Season 2's BigBad is [[VainSorceress Madame Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of the Nightcomers, and her true nature is revealed with a scene of her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family -- [[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]] -- so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell that she inflicted on Malcolm's wife on him, so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children and wife. It is also revealed that Evelyn {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch (which she admittedly was, but not an evil one) casting plagues on the local lord's cattle so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to Satan's service, Evelyn will stop at nothing to bring about his reign over Earth, and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]], and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists Evelyn Poole as his right-hand woman on Earth and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be imprisoned in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, his depravity only gets worse and worse. Satan, possessing Vanessa's body, takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want, pollutes the air of London, leads his army of demons to slaughter their way through a coven and the White Tower, and coldly disposes of his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later, Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.

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** Season 2's BigBad is [[VainSorceress Madame Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of the Nightcomers, and her true nature is revealed with a scene of her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family -- [[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]] -- so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell that she inflicted on Malcolm's wife on him, so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children and wife. It is also revealed that Evelyn {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch (which she admittedly was, but not an evil one) casting plagues on the local lord's cattle so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to Satan's service, Evelyn will stop at nothing to bring about his reign over Earth, and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
** {{Satan}} himself,
{{Satan}}, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]], and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists Evelyn Poole as his right-hand woman on Earth and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be imprisoned sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, his depravity only gets worse and worse. Satan, possessing Vanessa's body, body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want, want; pollutes the air of London, London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way through in a coven and the White Tower, Tower; and coldly disposes of both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later, Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.him.
** Season 2's BigBad is Madame Kali, whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. One top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: The scene in "Evil Spirits in Heavenly Places" where Dorian and Angelique go on a wild adventure of...ping-pong playing. Victorian London was actually taken by storm with the game in the late 1800's, and it was very fashionable to go to a ping-pong parlour.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Senegal (where Sembene, a Wolof, would have been from) is on the west coast of Africa. Zanzibar (where Malcolm has traveled to ostensibly [[spoiler: bring Sembene's body back for burial]]) is an archipelago off the eastern coast of Africa. Additionally, Malcolm cannot be in "German-controlled Zanzibar" in 1892, as the Germans ceded control of Zanzibar to the British as a protectorate in 1890.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Okay, random vampire guy. What possibly possessed you to think it was a good idea to scare Vanessa when your boss is trying to seduce her? What possible good could come of this? Predictably, [[spoiler: Dracula flies into a rage and has his vampire minions devour the offender.]]
** Renfield thinks it's a splendid idea to molest Vanessa while she's unconscious. While Dracula is right behind him. He's very lucky his master only chokes him and gives him an intimidating glare for the offense.
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** Brona is an Irish immigrant who has had to work as a prostitute to be able to live at all, who also suffers from consumption. He gets together with Ethan but their love life is cut too short: [[spoiler: Brona dies, and later gets ressurected by Victor intended to be the wife of the Creature. She then has to submit to Victor, and later can escape. She has some months of happiness along with Dorian and her acolytes, but then Victor kidnaps her to lobotomize her, making her his slave in all but name. She then reveals she had a baby who died from hypothermia. She's let go by Victor but all her friends have already left due to her absence and Justine has killed herself. She's left alone to suffer in immortality with no one to love.]]

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** Brona is an Irish immigrant who has had to work as a prostitute to be able to live at all, who also suffers from consumption. He gets together with Ethan but their love life is cut too short: [[spoiler: Brona dies, and later gets ressurected by Victor intended to be the wife of the repellant Creature. She then has to submit to Victor, living as some kind of ingenue all the while knowing everything and later can just waiting for the moment to escape. She has some months of happiness along with Dorian and her acolytes, but then then Dorian betrays her and Victor kidnaps her to lobotomize her, making her his slave in all but name. She then reveals she had a baby who died from hypothermia. She's let go by Victor but all her friends have already left due to her absence and Justine has killed herself. She's left alone to suffer in immortality with no one to love.]]
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** Just like in [[{{Literature/Frankenstein}} the novel he was taken from]], the Creature lives a very sad life. He's shunned by his creator then finds a job at a theatre, falls in love with a woman then gets rejected, is fired from his job, and while Victor [[spoiler: does make him a partner, she has no feelings for him and gets rejected by her too. Meanwhile, the Creature finds a job at a wax museum, only to be baited by the Putneys to make a freak-zoo starting with him. He kills the both of them and flees London to the Arctic, where some segments of his former life return to him. His son is sick from consumption all the while living in poverty. After his return to his family his son passes shortly, and the Creature is left aimlessly and alone wandering.]]
** Brona is an Irish immigrant who has had to work as a prostitute to be able to live at all, who also suffers from consumption. He gets together with Ethan but their love life is cut too short: [[spoiler: Brona dies, and later gets ressurected by Victor intended to be the wife of the Creature. She then has to submit to Victor, and later can escape. She has some months of happiness along with Dorian and her acolytes, but then Victor kidnaps her to lobotomize her, making her his slave in all but name. She then reveals she had a baby who died from hypothermia. She's let go by Victor but all her friends have already left due to her absence and Justine has killed herself. She's left alone to suffer in immortality with no one to love.]]
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* TheWoobie: Ever since Vanessa seduced Mina's fiance her life has been horrible, with [[spoiler: being admitted to a mental hospital and getting lobotimised, indirectly causing the death of her mother and best friend, being made the target of a satanic quest, being tormented by constant possession attempts, battling depression after all her friends leave or die, and never being able to just live a normal life]]

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** The entire first season has the audience believe that we will meet "the Master" - possibly Dracula - who is pulling the strings and has Mina prisoner. When it's revealed that [[spoiler: Mina has pulled a FaceHeelTurn long ago and is working for the Master]], we look forward to a serious battle between the heroes and the villain. This doesn't happen. The Master never once appears and [[spoiler: Mina is shot dead by Malcolm when she attempts to turn Vanessa]].
*** However, the Master, [[spoiler: namely Dracula]] has arrived in Season 3, and he has a veritable army of the undead at his command and while there is a well-choreographed fight scene [[spoiler: in Dracula's lair as the group tries to rescue Vanessa]], the scene cuts away almost immediately after [[spoiler: Dracula steps up and fights the heroes himself]] and only cuts back after [[spoiler: he's already defeated them]]. In addition, the entire scene culminates in [[spoiler: Vanessa's assisted suicide]] and [[spoiler: Dracula]] does absolutely ''nothing'' to avenge her; with his plans for world domination thwarted, he just seems to say "Fuck it" because he and his minions disappear immediately.
** Earlier in the series, Evelyn Poole and her coven are built up as very strong and credible threats, with Evelyn rivaling Vanessa in magical prowess, succeeding in nearly brainwashing Malcolm away from our heroes. It turns out [[spoiler:she doesn't directly fight Vanessa, who fights and defeats the devil instead. Evelyn is dispatched by werewolf!Ethan after losing her immortality. Meanwhile, Lyle and Malcolm shoot two of the witches fairly easily with ordinary guns.]]
* BadassDecay: Hits Sir Malcolm in Season 2. He does very little physical fighting, gets [[spoiler: mind-controlled]] by Evelyn and even loses his beard. Fortunately, he regains his strength (and his beard) in season 3.

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** The entire first season has the audience believe believing that we they will meet "the Master" - -- possibly Dracula - -- who is pulling the strings and has holding Mina prisoner. When it's revealed that [[spoiler: Mina has had pulled a FaceHeelTurn long ago and is working for the Master]], we look forward to a serious battle between the heroes and the villain. This doesn't happen. The Master never once appears appears, and [[spoiler: Mina is shot dead by Malcolm when she attempts to turn Vanessa]].
*** However, the Master, [[spoiler: namely Dracula]] has Dracula]], finally arrived in Season 3, and he has a veritable army of the undead at his command and while command. While there is a well-choreographed fight scene [[spoiler: in Dracula's lair as the group tries to rescue Vanessa]], the scene cuts away almost immediately after [[spoiler: Dracula steps up and fights to fight the heroes himself]] himself]], and only cuts back after [[spoiler: he's already defeated them]]. In addition, the entire scene culminates in [[spoiler: Vanessa's assisted suicide]] suicide]], and [[spoiler: Dracula]] does absolutely ''nothing'' to avenge her; with his plans for world domination thwarted, he just seems to say "Fuck it" it", because he and his minions disappear immediately.
** Earlier in the series, Evelyn Poole and her coven are built up as very strong and credible threats, with Evelyn rivaling Vanessa in magical prowess, prowess and succeeding in nearly brainwashing Malcolm away from our heroes. It turns out Well, [[spoiler:she doesn't directly fight Vanessa, who fights and defeats the devil instead. Evelyn is dispatched by werewolf!Ethan after losing her immortality. Meanwhile, Lyle and Malcolm shoot two of the witches fairly easily with ordinary guns.]]
* BadassDecay: Hits This hits Sir Malcolm in Season 2. He does very little physical fighting, gets [[spoiler: mind-controlled]] by Evelyn Evelyn, and even loses his beard. Fortunately, he regains his strength (and his beard) in season 3.



** The character played by Creator/BilliePiper hits this in both seasons, for completely different reasons. In season one, a common criticism of Brona was that her accent was terrible, the HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is overused, and that she was TheLoad to Ethan in his "more interesting" adventures with the Grandage Place gang. Other fans enjoyed her feisty nature, the realistic take on why someone in her position would choose prostitution, and her heartbreaking relationship with Ethan. In Season Two, [[spoiler: her resurrection as Lily prompted cries of both "Ugh, what are they doing, Brona was so much better and Lily's a complete doormat" and "Yay Brona's dead, the accent's gone, she's so cute falling for Victor!"]]. As the season progresses though, [[spoiler: she takes a darker turn, which has led to further splitting, as some preferred Lily's softer characterisation, while others approve of her transformation, calling her an interesting villain]].
** Dorian Gray has hit the fans even ''harder'' than Brona / Lily. For two and a half seasons, Dorian has interacted with just about everyone in the cast in both fascinating and disturbing ways, potentially building him up as a major antagonist alongside the likes of Dracula and Lucifer. But at the end, all of that is rendered utterly moot as his character is literally given nothing to do and is unceremoniously dumped by Lily. Interesting he may have been, but he was ultimately a completely inconsequential filler character who just devoured screen-time with no pay-off whatsoever.

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** The character played by Creator/BilliePiper hits hit this in both seasons, seasons one and two, for completely different reasons. In season one, a common criticism criticisms of Brona was were that her accent was terrible, the HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is overused, and that she was TheLoad to Ethan in his "more interesting" adventures with the Grandage Place gang. Other fans enjoyed her feisty nature, the realistic take on why someone in her position would choose prostitution, and her heartbreaking relationship with Ethan. In Season Two, season two, [[spoiler: her resurrection as Lily prompted cries of both "Ugh, what are they doing, Brona was so much better and Lily's a complete doormat" and "Yay Brona's dead, the accent's gone, she's so cute falling for Victor!"]]. Victor!"]] As the season progresses though, [[spoiler: she takes a darker turn, which has led to further splitting, as some preferred Lily's softer characterisation, while others approve of her transformation, calling her an interesting villain]].
** Dorian Gray has hit divided the fans even ''harder'' than Brona / Lily. Brona/Lily. For two and a half seasons, Dorian has interacted with just about everyone in the cast in both fascinating and disturbing ways, potentially building him up as a major antagonist alongside the likes of Dracula and Lucifer. But at the end, all of that is rendered utterly moot moot, as his character is literally given nothing to do and is unceremoniously dumped by Lily. Interesting he may have been, but he was ultimately a completely inconsequential filler character who just devoured screen-time screentime with no pay-off payoff whatsoever.



** Season 2's BigBad is [[VainSorceress Madame Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]] and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists Evelyn Poole and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, Satan, possessing Vanessa's body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; pollutes the air of London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in a coven and the White Tower; and coldly disposes both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.

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** Season 2's BigBad is [[VainSorceress Madame Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The the Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced revealed with a scene of her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild family -- [[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so baby]] -- so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as that she inflicted on Malcolm's wife on him, so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. children and wife. It is also revealed that Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch (which she admittedly was, but not an evil one) casting plagues on the local lord's cattle so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Satan's service, Evelyn stops will stop at nothing to achieve her goals bring about his reign over Earth, and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery misery, and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]] God]], and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists Evelyn Poole as his right-hand woman on Earth and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent imprisoned in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, his depravity only gets worse and worse. Satan, possessing Vanessa's body body, takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; want, pollutes the air of London; London, leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in through a coven and the White Tower; Tower, and coldly disposes both of his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Later, Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.



** The Cut-Wife was an instant fan favorite - despite being only in one episode - to the point that the show brought Patti [=LuPone=] back as a series regular for the third season despite having killed off her character, requiring them to cast her as American psychologist Doctor Seward.
* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: John Logan seems to think that the ending - Vanessa killing herself with help from Ethan to end the apocalypse and Dracula's reign of terror - is fitting for her, and that the audience should be happy she "found God" in her last moments. Many fans, including many TV critics, disagree, and feel this ending is far too grim for a woman who has suffered and fought against the forces of darkness her entire life.]]

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** The Cut-Wife was an instant fan favorite - favorite, despite being only in one episode - episode, to the point that the show brought Patti [=LuPone=] back as a series regular for the third season despite having killed off her character, requiring them to cast recasting her as American psychologist Doctor Seward.
* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: John Logan seems to think that the ending - -- Vanessa killing herself with help from Ethan to end the apocalypse and Dracula's reign of terror - -- is fitting for her, and that the audience should be happy she "found God" in her last moments. Many fans, including many TV critics, disagree, and feel this ending is far too grim for a woman who has suffered immense traumas and fought against the forces of darkness her entire life.]]



** Despite being a devil-worshipping, baby-killing cult, Evelyn's coven has an undeniable aesthetic.
** Dorian is far from a saint, but his timeless dandy appearance and his fancy estate look ''amazing''. [[spoiler: It's helpful that he and Lily have now started spree-killing {{Asshole Victim}}s.]]

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** Despite being a devil-worshipping, baby-killing cult, Evelyn's coven has an undeniable undeniably slick aesthetic.
** Dorian is far from a saint, but his timeless dandy appearance and his fancy estate look ''amazing''. [[spoiler: It's helpful It helps that he and Lily have now started start their reign of terror by spree-killing {{Asshole Victim}}s.]]



** Dr. Sweet [[spoiler: aka Dracula]].

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** Dr. Sweet Sweet, [[spoiler: aka Dracula]].



* GrowingTheBeard: Not that ''Penny Dreadful'' was ever bad, but the first half of the first season can feel a bit uneven. There are so many storylines to introduce - Vanessa and Malcolm hunting for Mina, Ethan and Brona at the Mariner's Inn, Victor and his creatures, Dorian's life of excess - and so many great performances from the cast that it can feel breakneck. "Closer than Sisters", which is the first of the series' three flashback episodes, gives us a poignant, note-perfect look at the defining moments of Vanessa's life and the incident which caused the rift between her and Mina. It fleshes Vanessa out incredibly well and sets up the driving conflict of the first season - if they do find Mina, will there be something left to save?
* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Creator/JoshHartnett was pegged by many critics as the weak link of the cast. Come "Possession", specifically the scene where [[spoiler: Vanessa's demon appears in Ethan's form]] and his good-ol-boy cowboy charm suddenly goes from sexy to NightmareFuel in a matter of seconds, and the scene where [[spoiler: Ethan exorcises Vanessa]], Hartnett really takes a level in acting badassery.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Not that ''Penny Dreadful'' was ever bad, but the first half of the first season can feel a bit uneven. There are so many storylines to introduce - -- Vanessa and Malcolm hunting for Mina, Ethan and Brona at the Mariner's Inn, Victor and his creatures, Dorian's life of excess - -- and so many great performances from the cast that it can feel breakneck. "Closer than Sisters", which is the first of the series' three flashback episodes, gives us a poignant, note-perfect look at the defining moments of Vanessa's life and the incident which caused the rift between her and Mina. It fleshes Vanessa out incredibly well and sets up the driving conflict of the first season - -- if they do find Mina, will there be something anything left to save?
* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Creator/JoshHartnett was pegged by many critics as the weak link of the cast. Come "Possession", specifically the scene where [[spoiler: Vanessa's demon appears in Ethan's form]] and his good-ol-boy cowboy charm suddenly goes from sexy to NightmareFuel in a matter of seconds, and the scene where [[spoiler: Ethan exorcises Vanessa]], and Hartnett really takes a level in acting badassery.



** Between Vanessa and Mina, amplified by their childhood friendship and Vanessa's apparent psychic/supernatural bond with the girl. Not helped by some of the promo photos of the two of them pretty intimate with one another, and Vanessa's assertion that she loves Mina. "The Nightcomers" confirms Vanessa/Mina is nigh well canon, as Vanessa mentions [[spoiler: she's kissed Mina]].
** Between Victor Frankenstein and Henry Jekyll in "The Day Tennyson Died" -- they clearly have some schooltime history together.
** Unrequited between [[spoiler: Renfield]] and [[spoiler: Dracula]]. [[spoiler: Renfield]] kisses the ground [[spoiler: Dracula]] walks on and even calls him "radiant" with obvious sexual undertones (not to mention the moment when [[spoiler: [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Renfield feeds on Dracula's blood]]]]), but [[spoiler: Dracula]] doesn't return the affection.

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** Between Vanessa and Mina, amplified by their childhood friendship and Vanessa's apparent psychic/supernatural bond with the girl. Not woman. It's not helped by some of the promo photos of the two of them pretty intimate with one another, and Vanessa's assertion that she loves Mina. "The Nightcomers" confirms Vanessa/Mina is nigh well canon, as Vanessa mentions [[spoiler: she's kissed Mina]].
** Between Victor Frankenstein and Henry Jekyll in "The Day Tennyson Died" -- they clearly have some schooltime history together.
** Unrequited between [[spoiler: Renfield]] and [[spoiler: Dracula]]. [[spoiler: Renfield]] kisses the ground [[spoiler: Dracula]] walks on and even calls him "radiant" "radiant", with obvious sexual undertones (not to mention the moment when [[spoiler: [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Renfield feeds on Dracula's blood]]]]), but [[spoiler: Dracula]] doesn't return the affection.



* MagnificentBastard: {{Dracula}}, the final villain of the series, kidnaps and turns Mina Murray to manipulate the heroes into chasing her in order to lure his true quarry, Vanessa Ives, into his grasp. While also outplaying his brother Lucifer, Dracula becomes close to Vanessa under his mortal guise of Dr. Alexander Sweet, while genuinely falling for Vanessa. Even after she discovers his true identity, Dracula still wins her to his side with the strength of his charm and charisma. Dracula then sets about his conquest of the world, so powerful that none of the heroes are able to even touch him, only departing to honor Vanessa's promise not to harm her friends after Vanessa's HeroicSacrifice.

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* MagnificentBastard: {{Dracula}}, the final villain of the series, kidnaps and turns Mina Murray to manipulate the heroes into chasing her in order to lure his true quarry, Vanessa Ives, into his grasp. While also outplaying his brother Lucifer, Dracula becomes close to Vanessa under in his mortal guise of as Dr. Alexander Sweet, Sweet to lure her into becoming his bride, all the while genuinely falling for Vanessa. Even after she discovers his true identity, Dracula still wins her to his side with the strength of his charm and charisma. Dracula then sets about his conquest of the world, so powerful that none of the heroes are able to even touch him, only departing to honor Vanessa's promise not to harm her friends after Vanessa's HeroicSacrifice.



** For some viewers, sympathy for Caliban became impossible after he [[spoiler:murders Van Helsing just to motivate Victor to work harder]].

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** For some viewers, sympathy for Caliban became impossible after he [[spoiler:murders [[spoiler:murdered Van Helsing just to motivate Victor to work harder]].harder making his bride]].



* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Wolfed-out Ethan and Kaetenay]] coming face to face and snarling ridiculously at each other in the otherwise-awesome penultimate scene in 3.08.
** "Little Scorpion" is full of these from Vanessa's "I hate trees" (Yes, that is an actual line and no, not even Eva Green's acting can save the scene) to Ethan speech's that Vanessa will never get [[spoiler: her soul back because she killed the man who BURNED HER TEACHER ALIVE IN FRONT OF HER. It's ridiculous and hard for anyone to take seriously especially since ETHAN WAS PREPARING TO SHOOT THE MAN so Vanessa wouldn't stain her perfectly "clean" hands.]]
** In 3.05, Ethan's [[spoiler:reversed version of Saying Grace is meant to be threatening or creepy, signalling his loss of faith at the moment, however it comes across more edgy and juvenile than threatening. Also a moot point by the middle of the next episode.]]
* NarmCharm: The climax of the second season involves Vanessa confronting a devil-possessed doll version of herself and it speaks with her voice. Because of the writing, the eeriness of the doll, and ''especially'' because of Eva Green's performance, the scene works.

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[[spoiler: Wolfed-out Ethan and Kaetenay]] coming face to face and snarling ridiculously at each other in the otherwise-awesome penultimate scene in 3.08.
** "Little Scorpion" is full of these these, from Vanessa's "I hate trees" (Yes, (yes, that is an actual line line, and no, not even Eva Green's acting can save the scene) to Ethan speech's Ethan's speech that Vanessa will never get [[spoiler: her soul back because she killed the man who BURNED HER TEACHER ALIVE IN FRONT OF HER. It's completely ridiculous and hard for anyone to take seriously seriously, especially since ETHAN WAS PREPARING TO SHOOT THE MAN so Vanessa wouldn't stain her perfectly "clean" hands.]]
** In 3.05, Ethan's [[spoiler:reversed version of Saying saying Grace is meant to be threatening or creepy, signalling his loss of faith at the moment, however moment. However, it comes across more edgy and juvenile than threatening. Also It's also a moot point by the middle of the next episode.]]
* NarmCharm: The climax of the second season involves Vanessa confronting a devil-possessed doll version of herself and it which speaks with her voice. Because of the writing, the eeriness of the doll, and ''especially'' because of Eva Green's performance, the scene works.



** Alun Armstrong as Vincent, the proprietor of the Grand Guignol, is in three episodes, but his scenes are quite short. "Resurrection" is his standout episode. He shows great care and compassion to Caliban, and it's a shame we're not likely to see him again.
** David Warner's Van Helsing is an excellent mentor and foil to Victor. Fans were quite upset when he is [[spoiler: unceremoniously killed by Caliban]].

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** Alun Armstrong as Vincent, the proprietor of the Grand Guignol, is in only three episodes, but his scenes are quite short. "Resurrection" is his standout episode. He shows great care and compassion to Caliban, and it's a shame we're not likely to see him again.
** David Warner's Van Helsing is an excellent mentor and foil to Victor. Fans were quite upset when he is was [[spoiler: unceremoniously killed by Caliban]].



** Jared Talbot, [[ArchnemesisDad Ethan's much alluded to father.]] He only appears in two episodes, but he completely dominates the episodes due to his surprisingly tragic past, and the fantastic delivery on the part of his actor, {{Creator/Brian Cox}}.

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** Jared Talbot, [[ArchnemesisDad Ethan's much alluded to alluded-to father.]] He only appears in two episodes, but he completely dominates the those episodes due to his surprisingly tragic past, and the fantastic delivery on the part of his actor, {{Creator/Brian Cox}}.



* SeasonalRot: Beyond the BrokenBase of the series ending, most fans agree that season three is the worst one compared to the first and second. The season started off strong, introducing literary giants Dracula and Jekyll, and the episode "A Blade of Grass" is one of Penny Dreadful's strongest episodes and does an incredible job showcasing Eva Green's acting talents -- but somewhere in the middle and at the end, the intense and psychotic energy had burnt itself out, ending in a whisper instead of a bang.
* SpoiledByTheFormat: In the third season episode ''This World Is Our Hell,'' [[spoiler: Kaetenay is abandoned in the desert, at Ethan's request, to die. Since we've seen him in trailers turning up with Ethan and Malcolm in London, he's obviously going to survive.]]

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* SeasonalRot: Beyond the BrokenBase of the series ending, most fans agree that season three is the worst one compared to the first and second. The season started off strong, introducing literary giants Dracula and Jekyll, and the episode "A Blade of Grass" is one of Penny Dreadful's strongest episodes and does an incredible job showcasing Eva Green's acting talents -- but somewhere in the middle and at the end, the intense and psychotic energy had burnt burns itself out, ending in a whisper instead of a bang.
* SpoiledByTheFormat: In the third season episode ''This World Is Our Hell,'' [[spoiler: Kaetenay is abandoned in the desert, at Ethan's request, to die. Since we've seen him in trailers he was shown turning up with Ethan and Malcolm in London, he's obviously going to survive.]]



** In a show ''full'' of squick-worthy sights, viewers were pretty disgusted by the sight of Victor [[spoiler: fondling the dead Brona while she's in the tank.]]
** The scene of [[spoiler: Dorian, Lily and Justine having a threesome while covered in blood from head to toe]] similarly turned off a lot of viewers.
** Most of the audience is as uncomfortable with [[spoiler: Madam Kali kissing Lyle as he is.]]
* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] due to sharing its GaslampFantasy Victorian setting and the plot of various {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Ethan losing his long hair look in the Season 2 finale.

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** In a show ''full'' of squick-worthy sights, viewers were pretty disgusted by the sight of Victor [[spoiler: fondling the dead Brona while she's in the water tank.]]
** The scene of [[spoiler: Dorian, Lily Lily, and Justine having a threesome while covered in blood from head to toe]] similarly turned off a lot of viewers.
** Most of the audience is as uncomfortable with [[spoiler: Madam Kali Evelyn Poole kissing Lyle as he is.]]
* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] version]], due to sharing its GaslampFantasy Victorian setting and the plot premise of various {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Ethan losing his long hair look in the Season season 2 finale.



** Of the main group, Sembene gets the least development, and he's rarely given a chance to show much character, even in instances where it would logically make sense (Vanessa confiding in Victor her hidden location instead of Sembene? Really?) Even at the end, he ends up [[spoiler: dying at the fangs of werewolf Ethan, believing Ethan has a destiny more important than his own life]] and is then [[spoiler: buried offscreen in a private ceremony and more or less forgotten thereon.]] Making it worse as he's the only person of color in the core cast. In a show that loves deconstructing and exploring Victorian tropes, Sembene's lack of development and exploration sticks out.
** Mina Murray. Her backstory as Sir Malcolm Murray‘s daughter and Vanessa’s best friend is what triggered Vanessa’s inner darkness and her kidnapping by Dracula is what starts the entire plot. Malcolm even tells Vanessa to her face he would sacrifice her in a heartbeat to save Mina and [[spoiler: especially after the death of his son and only other child]] you believe she would be a major character narratively and emotionally. [[spoiler: But she’s simply killed off with remarkable ease and lack of emotion by her father and that’s the end of it.]] Pretty disappointing for a character with so much history within the show and in literature.
** Shazad Latif played an amazing Jekyll in season 3, but he never got that much to do once he facilitated Victor's 'taming' of Lily, and mostly stood around in the background looking disgruntled. Even worse, [[spoiler: Hyde never has a chance to turn up, since the third season is the last]].
** [[spoiler: Hecate gets killed off halfway through season 3, having done nothing except temporarily seduce Ethan to darkness, which he quickly breaks out of.]]
** Unfathomably, [[spoiler: Dracula himself]]. He's a looming force of evil throughout the entire show, but by the time he actually shows up to do his own dirty work, [[spoiler: he is mostly shown pretending to be a milquetoast zoologist]] and has ''very'' few evil scenes. In fact, he has very few scenes at all. He's implied to be more powerful than [[spoiler: Lucifer]], and yet we only see a small fraction of that power at work. His [[spoiler: virtually invincible true form]], teased by Catriona, is never seen. [[spoiler: He triggers the apocalypse, but it only lasts two episodes.]] The idea of [[spoiler: Dracula actually falling in love with Vanessa during his selfish pursuit]] is introduced, [[spoiler: but we only have one scene dedicated to this]]. [[spoiler: When Ethan kills Vanessa, Dracula doesn't try to avenge her death; instead, he just flees.]] For such an iconic character who was teased for so long and played by such a deft actor, he doesn't amount to much.

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** Of the main group, Sembene gets the least development, and he's rarely given a chance to show much character, even in instances where it would logically make sense (Vanessa confiding in Victor her hidden location instead of Sembene? Really?) Even at the end, he ends up [[spoiler: dying at the fangs of werewolf Ethan, believing Ethan has a destiny more important than his own life]] life]], and is then [[spoiler: buried offscreen in a private ceremony and more or less forgotten thereon.]] Making it worse as worse, he's the only person of color in the core cast. In a show that loves deconstructing and exploring Victorian tropes, Sembene's lack of development and exploration sticks out.
** Mina Murray. Her backstory as Sir Malcolm Murray‘s daughter and Vanessa’s best friend is what triggered Vanessa’s inner darkness darkness, and her kidnapping by Dracula is what starts the entire plot. Malcolm even tells Vanessa to her face he would sacrifice her in a heartbeat to save Mina Mina, and [[spoiler: especially after the death of his son and only other child]] child]], you might believe she would be a major character narratively and emotionally. [[spoiler: But she’s She’s simply killed off with remarkable ease and lack of emotion by her father father, and that’s the end of it.]] Pretty It's pretty disappointing for a character with so much history within the show and in literature.
** Shazad Latif played plays an amazing Jekyll in season 3, but he never got that much to do once he facilitated Victor's 'taming' of Lily, and mostly stood around in the background looking disgruntled. Even worse, [[spoiler: Hyde never has a chance to turn up, since the third season is the last]].
** [[spoiler: Hecate gets killed off halfway through season 3, having done nothing except temporarily seduce Ethan to darkness, which he quickly breaks immediately snaps out of.of without much fuss once she dies.]]
** Unfathomably, [[spoiler: Dracula himself]]. He's a looming force of evil throughout the entire show, but by the time he actually shows up to do his own dirty work, [[spoiler: he is mostly shown pretending to be a milquetoast zoologist]] and has ''very'' few evil scenes. In fact, he has very few scenes at all. He's implied to be more powerful than [[spoiler: Lucifer]], and yet we only see a small fraction of that power at work. His [[spoiler: virtually invincible true form]], teased by Catriona, is never seen. [[spoiler: He triggers the apocalypse, but it only lasts two episodes.]] The idea of [[spoiler: Dracula actually falling in love with Vanessa during his selfish pursuit]] is introduced, [[spoiler: but we only have one scene dedicated to this]].it]]. [[spoiler: When Ethan kills Vanessa, Dracula doesn't try to avenge her death; instead, he just flees.]] For such an iconic character who was teased for so long and played by such a deft actor, he doesn't amount to much.



** The Nightcomers in season two were a powerful, terrifying, legitimate threat to our heroes. These are women who worship the Devil, can turn invisible, are nigh-indestructible, super-fast, and their leader can MindScrew you into killing yourself or others. Fans were gearing up for a no-holds-barred smackdown between Evelyn and Vanessa, with the other witches proving serious threats for the heroes. What happens? [[spoiler: Vanessa chants at a doll that's possessed by Satan, which is somehow enough to defeat Evelyn and leave her mortal enough to be killed by Ethan.]] We never get to see the extent of Evelyn's powers, nor any real fight between the heroes and the witches.
** Vanessa's [[spoiler: surrender to Dracula and embrace of the darkness]] should have been a major turning point of the show, and many fans were even ''excited'' to see her [[spoiler: become completely evil, even for a little while, and rule at Dracula's side]]. Come the finale, [[spoiler: evil!Vanessa has only two scenes, and she's still self-loathing. In the second scene, Ethan kills her per her request, killing all the potential for Vanessa's descent into evil and ascent into goodness along with her]].

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** The Nightcomers in season two were are a powerful, terrifying, legitimate threat to our heroes. These are women who worship the Devil, can turn invisible, are nigh-indestructible, super-fast, and their leader can MindScrew you into killing yourself or others. Fans were gearing up for a no-holds-barred smackdown between Evelyn and Vanessa, with the other witches proving to be serious threats for the heroes. What happens? [[spoiler: Vanessa chants at a doll that's possessed by Satan, which is somehow enough to defeat Evelyn and leave her mortal enough to be killed by Ethan.]] We never get to see the extent of Evelyn's powers, nor any real fight between the heroes and the witches.
** Vanessa's [[spoiler: surrender to Dracula and embrace of the darkness]] should have been a major turning point of the show, and many fans were even ''excited'' to see her [[spoiler: become completely evil, even for a little while, and rule at Dracula's side]]. Come the finale, [[spoiler: evil!Vanessa has only two scenes, and she remains the same self-loathing, tormented woman she's still self-loathing. been for the entire show. In the second scene, Ethan kills her per her request, killing all the potential for Vanessa's descent into evil and or ascent into goodness along with her]].



** Much of the Creature's non-Victor/Lily moments in season 2, as well as his Arctic journey in season 3, come off as this. The Putneys do not have any connection to the main plot (unlike the Grand Guignol in S1), do not interact with anyone but the Creature, and seem to only be there to give Rory Kinnear something to do. Likewise, the Arctic scenes are gorgeously-shot and Kinnear is amazing to watch, but they seem to only be there for foreshadowing purposes (the Creature [[spoiler: killing the young boy as foreshadowing for the storyline involving his family and eventual mercy-killing of his own son]]).
** Victor's non-Lily plot in season 3 seems to serve no other purpose than to eventually reveal that Dr. Jekyll becomes Lord Hyde. It's telling that Victor's involvement in the final battle of show has the protagonists clumsily stumble on to him on the way to confront Dracula.
* TypeCasting: When Christian Camargo was announced as a member of the Season 3 cast, many fans suspected that he'd turn out to be evil, given his notorious habit of playing [[{{Series/Dexter}} deceptively nice villains]]. [[spoiler: Indeed, the seemingly sweet Dr. Sweet is actually Dracula in disguise.]]

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** Much of the Creature's non-Victor/Lily moments in season 2, as well as his Arctic journey in season 3, come off as this. The Putneys do not have any connection to the main plot (unlike the Grand Guignol in S1), do not interact with anyone but the Creature, and seem to only be there to give Rory Kinnear something to do. Likewise, the Arctic scenes are gorgeously-shot gorgeously shot and Kinnear is amazing to watch, but they seem to only be there for foreshadowing purposes (the Creature [[spoiler: killing the young boy as foreshadowing for the storyline involving his family and eventual mercy-killing of his own son]]).
** Victor's non-Lily plot in season 3 seems to serve no other purpose than to eventually reveal that Dr. Jekyll becomes Lord Hyde. It's telling that Victor's involvement in the final battle of the show has is only because the protagonists clumsily stumble on to upon him on the way to confront Dracula.
* TypeCasting: When Christian Camargo was announced as a member of the Season season 3 cast, many fans suspected that he'd turn out to be evil, given his notorious habit of playing [[{{Series/Dexter}} deceptively nice villains]]. [[spoiler: Indeed, the seemingly sweet Dr. Sweet is actually Dracula in disguise.]]



** Fans had plenty of time to wonder about certain images in the opening titles, Ethan's blackouts and Brona's ultimate purpose in the show, considering her disconnection to most of the action. By the time the season one finale arrived and it was revealed that [[spoiler: a) Ethan ''is'' indeed a werewolf and b) Victor plans to use Brona's body to make a 'Bride' for his first creation,]] it wasn't that surprising.
** This happens again in Season 3, when it is revealed that [[spoiler: Dr. Sweet is in fact Dracula]], to the surprise of very few in the fandom.

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** Fans had plenty of time to wonder about certain images in the opening titles, Ethan's blackouts blackouts, and Brona's ultimate purpose in the show, considering her disconnection to most of the action. By the time the season one finale arrived and it was revealed arrived, revealing that [[spoiler: a) Ethan ''is'' indeed a werewolf werewolf, and b) Victor plans to use Brona's body to make a 'Bride' for his first creation,]] it wasn't the Creature's bride,]], neither of these twists were all that surprising.
** This happens again in Season season 3, when it is revealed that [[spoiler: Dr. Sweet is in fact Dracula]], to the surprise of very few in the fandom.



** Renfield thinks it's a splendid idea to molest Vanessa while unconscious. While Dracula is right behind him. He's very lucky his master only chokes him and gives him an intimidating glare for the offense.

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** Renfield thinks it's a splendid idea to molest Vanessa while she's unconscious. While Dracula is right behind him. He's very lucky his master only chokes him and gives him an intimidating glare for the offense.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Ethan and Vanessa is the most popular pairing, by far, and is affectionately referred to as Ethanessa.
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* BadassDecay: Hits Sir Malcolm in Season 2. He does very little physical fighting, gets [[spoiler: mind-controlled]] by Evelyn and even loses his BadassBeard. Fortunately, he regains his strength (and his beard) in season 3.

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* BadassDecay: Hits Sir Malcolm in Season 2. He does very little physical fighting, gets [[spoiler: mind-controlled]] by Evelyn and even loses his BadassBeard.beard. Fortunately, he regains his strength (and his beard) in season 3.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Josh Hartnett was pegged by many critics as the weak link of the cast. Come "Possession", specifically the scene where [[spoiler: Vanessa's demon appears in Ethan's form]] and his good-ol-boy cowboy charm suddenly goes from sexy to NightmareFuel in a matter of seconds, and the scene where [[spoiler: Ethan exorcises Vanessa]], Hartnett really takes a level in acting badassery.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Josh Hartnett Creator/JoshHartnett was pegged by many critics as the weak link of the cast. Come "Possession", specifically the scene where [[spoiler: Vanessa's demon appears in Ethan's form]] and his good-ol-boy cowboy charm suddenly goes from sexy to NightmareFuel in a matter of seconds, and the scene where [[spoiler: Ethan exorcises Vanessa]], Hartnett really takes a level in acting badassery.
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** Season 2's BigBad is Madame Kali, whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.

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** Season 2's BigBad is [[VainSorceress Madame Kali, Kali]], whose real name is Evelyn Poole. She is revealed to be far more than a simple medium, and is actually a powerful servant of Satan. Evelyn is a [[WickedWitch witch]] who rules the coven of The Nightcomers, and her true nature is introduced with her in a [[BloodBath bath of blood]] and a young woman's corpse close by. Evelyn promptly thereafter [[YouHaveFailedMe kills one of her own witches for failure]] and sends her sadistic daughter Hecate to murder a family--[[WouldHurtAChild including a baby]]--so Evelyn can harvest the child's heart to create a ritual doll. On top of this, it is revealed Evelyn has dozens of these dolls, each one powered by the heart of a dead infant. Evelyn later enslaves the mind of Sir Malcolm and [[MindRape mentally tortures]] Malcolm's wife into [[DrivenToSuicide killing herself]], simply to make Malcolm hers. When Malcolm breaks free, she simply inflicts the same spell as she inflicted on Malcolm's wife so that Malcolm is tormented by visions of his dead children. It is also revealed Evelyn had {{frame|Up}}d her own sister as a witch so that she would be [[BurnTheWitch burned alive]]. Ruthlessly dedicated to the service of Satan, Evelyn stops at nothing to achieve her goals and indeed causes a great deal of torment, misery and damage before she is finally undone. It's further revealed that Evelyn [[AbusiveParents forced her daughter Hecate]] into Lucifer's servitude when Hecate was just five years old, with a description that sounds disturbingly like Lucifer raping her.
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** The character played by Billie Piper hits this in both seasons, for completely different reasons. In season one, a common criticism of Brona was that her accent was terrible, the HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is overused, and that she was TheLoad to Ethan in his "more interesting" adventures with the Grandage Place gang. Other fans enjoyed her feisty nature, the realistic take on why someone in her position would choose prostitution, and her heartbreaking relationship with Ethan. In Season Two, [[spoiler: her resurrection as Lily prompted cries of both "Ugh, what are they doing, Brona was so much better and Lily's a complete doormat" and "Yay Brona's dead, the accent's gone, she's so cute falling for Victor!"]]. As the season progresses though, [[spoiler: she takes a darker turn, which has led to further splitting, as some preferred Lily's softer characterisation, while others approve of her transformation, calling her an interesting villain]].

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** The character played by Billie Piper Creator/BilliePiper hits this in both seasons, for completely different reasons. In season one, a common criticism of Brona was that her accent was terrible, the HookerWithAHeartOfGold trope is overused, and that she was TheLoad to Ethan in his "more interesting" adventures with the Grandage Place gang. Other fans enjoyed her feisty nature, the realistic take on why someone in her position would choose prostitution, and her heartbreaking relationship with Ethan. In Season Two, [[spoiler: her resurrection as Lily prompted cries of both "Ugh, what are they doing, Brona was so much better and Lily's a complete doormat" and "Yay Brona's dead, the accent's gone, she's so cute falling for Victor!"]]. As the season progresses though, [[spoiler: she takes a darker turn, which has led to further splitting, as some preferred Lily's softer characterisation, while others approve of her transformation, calling her an interesting villain]].
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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] due to sharing the GaslampFantasy Victorian setting and the plot of various {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.

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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] due to sharing the its GaslampFantasy Victorian setting and the plot of various {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.
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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] due to sharing the GaslampFantasy Victorian setting, the plot of {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.

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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version]] due to sharing the GaslampFantasy Victorian setting, setting and the plot of various {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.
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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the official film version.

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* SpiritualLicensee: Some fans think it's a better live-action adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' than the [[Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen official film version.version]] due to sharing the GaslampFantasy Victorian setting, the plot of {{Public Domain Character}}s teaming up to stop malevolent forces from destroying or taking over the world.
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** Despite easily getting the least focus of the main cast, Sembene is incredibly popular, due to being an awesome no-nonsense unfazeable BattleButler whose few lines are normally either wise or entertaining, as well as being played by immensely-respected theatre actor Danny Sapani. It was not uncommon to see fans discussing and speculating about how much he'd speak in upcoming episodes, or hoping he would one day have an episode devoted to his backstory.

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** Despite easily getting the least focus of the main cast, Sembene is incredibly popular, due to being an awesome no-nonsense unfazeable BattleButler whose few lines are normally either wise or entertaining, as well as being played by immensely-respected theatre actor Danny Sapani.Creator/DannySapani. It was not uncommon to see fans discussing and speculating about how much he'd speak in upcoming episodes, or hoping he would one day have an episode devoted to his backstory.
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** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]] and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists the aforementioned Evelyn Poole and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, Satan, possessing Vanessa's body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; pollutes the air of London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in a coven and the White Tower; and coldly disposes both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.

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** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God]] and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists the aforementioned Evelyn Poole and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, Satan, possessing Vanessa's body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; pollutes the air of London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in a coven and the White Tower; and coldly disposes both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.
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** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], dethrone God and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists the aforementioned Evelyn Poole and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, Satan, possessing Vanessa's body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; pollutes the air of London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in a coven and the White Tower; and coldly disposes both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.

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** {{Satan}} himself, after his failed rebellion against God, seeks to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy humanity]], [[RageAgainstTheHeavens dethrone God God]] and rule over his new creation. Satan enlists the aforementioned Evelyn Poole and scars every Nightcomer with his claws. Fighting against his brother Dracula over the Mother of Evil, Satan corrupted and possessed Vanessa Ives and tortured her into submission, eventually leading her to be sent in an asylum. He also granted Dorian Gray immortality in exchange for his service and has him kill people to prolong his life. In the continuation comics, Satan, possessing Vanessa's body takes over the British government and compels them to war against other nations. He allows his followers to kill and rape anyone they want; pollutes the air of London; leads his army of demons to slaughter their way in a coven and the White Tower; and coldly disposes both his underlings Belial and the Duke of Kent when [[YouHaveFailedMe they fail him]]. Satan tricks Ethan into sleeping with him to conceive TheAntiChrist and then tries to murder the man upon his refusal to follow him. Later Satan brainwashes Ethan and forces him to kill his lover Lily. After giving birth to twin daughters destined to rule over his creation, Satan sets Heaven on fire, raining down destruction on Earth and then announces that anyone who won't worship him will die. During the final battle, Satan rejects Dracula's offer for peace and reconciliation before attacking him.
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* MagnificentBastard: Dracula, the final villain of the series, kidnaps and turns Mina Murray to manipulate the heroes into chasing her in order to lure his true quarry, Vanessa Ives, into his grasp. While also outplaying his brother Lucifer, Dracula becomes close to Vanessa under his mortal guise of Dr. Alexander Sweet, while genuinely falling for Vanessa. Even after she discovers his true identity, Dracula still wins her to his side with the strength of his charm and charisma. Dracula then sets about his conquest of the world, so powerful that none of the heroes are able to even touch him, only departing to honor Vanessa's promise not to harm her friends after Vanessa's HeroicSacrifice.

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* MagnificentBastard: Dracula, {{Dracula}}, the final villain of the series, kidnaps and turns Mina Murray to manipulate the heroes into chasing her in order to lure his true quarry, Vanessa Ives, into his grasp. While also outplaying his brother Lucifer, Dracula becomes close to Vanessa under his mortal guise of Dr. Alexander Sweet, while genuinely falling for Vanessa. Even after she discovers his true identity, Dracula still wins her to his side with the strength of his charm and charisma. Dracula then sets about his conquest of the world, so powerful that none of the heroes are able to even touch him, only departing to honor Vanessa's promise not to harm her friends after Vanessa's HeroicSacrifice.
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** Victor and Ethan have a snarky, confrontational relationship. Between Victor's AmbiguouslyGay nature and Ethan being BiTheWay, the vibes are strong.

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** Victor and Ethan have a snarky, confrontational relationship. Between Victor's AmbiguouslyGay nature and Ethan being BiTheWay, bisexual, the vibes are strong.

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