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** Grodd's attempt to assassinate a young Barack Obama has become the go-to clip for demonstrating how crazy Legends can be.
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* IKnewIt:
** Sara comes BackFromTheDead via Lazarus Pit. Some people also predicted her new alias being "White Canary".
** Others also guessed ComicBook/VandalSavage would be the BigBad from the plot synopsis alone, given he's the most apparent [[CompleteImmortality "immortal threat"]] in the DC Universe.
** With all the references to shrinking and nanotech in ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' and ''Series/TheFlash2014'', it was only a matter of time until Ray Palmer's ATOM suit finally gets shrinking powers.
** Many people called it that Chronos was indeed Future!Heatwave
** The Time Masters being Savage's cronies shocked absolutely nobody.
** Many had guessed the Leonard Snart that would join the Legion of Doom is a younger version back from his villainous days.
** Although it was mostly a joke, many were right on the mark when they said Beebo would be significant in the fight against Mallus. In "The Good, The Bad, and the Cuddly", the Totems of Zambezi are used to create a gigantic Beebo who [[KillTheGod kills Mallus]]. Beebo went from being a MemeticBadass to a literal badass.
** Sara comes BackFromTheDead via Lazarus Pit. Some people also predicted her new alias being "White Canary".
** Others also guessed ComicBook/VandalSavage would be the BigBad from the plot synopsis alone, given he's the most apparent [[CompleteImmortality "immortal threat"]] in the DC Universe.
** With all the references to shrinking and nanotech in ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' and ''Series/TheFlash2014'', it was only a matter of time until Ray Palmer's ATOM suit finally gets shrinking powers.
** Many people called it that Chronos was indeed Future!Heatwave
** The Time Masters being Savage's cronies shocked absolutely nobody.
** Many had guessed the Leonard Snart that would join the Legion of Doom is a younger version back from his villainous days.
** Although it was mostly a joke, many were right on the mark when they said Beebo would be significant in the fight against Mallus. In "The Good, The Bad, and the Cuddly", the Totems of Zambezi are used to create a gigantic Beebo who [[KillTheGod kills Mallus]]. Beebo went from being a MemeticBadass to a literal badass.
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* EvilIsSexy:
** Valentina Vostok, [[StatuesqueStunner a tall]], [[AloofDarkHairedGirl dark-haired]], sexy scientist and the villains' resident MsFanservice who speaks [[SensualSlavs in a sexy Russian accent]].
** The Pilgrim has her fair share of fans.
** Valentina Vostok, [[StatuesqueStunner a tall]], [[AloofDarkHairedGirl dark-haired]], sexy scientist and the villains' resident MsFanservice who speaks [[SensualSlavs in a sexy Russian accent]].
** The Pilgrim has her fair share of fans.
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* EvilIsSexy: A lot of the ladies and gay male fans love brainwashed Rip Hunter in Season 2, citing [[EvilBrit the accent]] and the badass attitude.
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* QuestionableCasting: German Falk Hentschel and Danish Casper Crump as Ancient Egyptians, which appears to be a textbook case of whitewashing, similar to ''Film/ExodusGodsAndKings'' and ''Film/GodsOfEgypt''.
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* QuestionableCasting: German Falk Hentschel and Danish Casper Crump as Ancient Egyptians, which appears to be a textbook case of whitewashing, similar to ''Film/ExodusGodsAndKings'' and ''Film/GodsOfEgypt''.
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* WTHCastingAgency: German Falk Hentschel and Danish Casper Crump as Ancient Egyptians, which appears to be a textbook case of whitewashing, similar to ''Film/ExodusGodsAndKings'' and ''Film/GodsOfEgypt''.
* QuestionableCasting:
** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person is playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
** The casting of 76 year-old Creator/LanceHenriksen as usually young adult hero Obsidian has raised quite a few eyebrows. [[http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-obsidian-two-versions/ It would later be clarified that Henriksen is playing an older version of the character,]] with Obisidian's [[TimeShiftedActor younger incarnation]] portrayed by the 44 year-old Dan Payne, assuaging some of the casting doubts.
** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person is playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
** The casting of 76 year-old Creator/LanceHenriksen as usually young adult hero Obsidian has raised quite a few eyebrows. [[http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-obsidian-two-versions/ It would later be clarified that Henriksen is playing an older version of the character,]] with Obisidian's [[TimeShiftedActor younger incarnation]] portrayed by the 44 year-old Dan Payne, assuaging some of the casting doubts.
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** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person is playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
** The casting of 76 year-old Creator/LanceHenriksen as usually young adult hero Obsidian has raised quite a few eyebrows. [[http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-obsidian-two-versions/ It would later be clarified that Henriksen is playing an older version of the character,]] with Obisidian's [[TimeShiftedActor younger incarnation]] portrayed by the 44 year-old Dan Payne, assuaging some of the casting doubts.
** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person is playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
** The casting of 76 year-old Creator/LanceHenriksen as usually young adult hero Obsidian has raised quite a few eyebrows. [[http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-obsidian-two-versions/ It would later be clarified that Henriksen is playing an older version of the character,]] with Obisidian's [[TimeShiftedActor younger incarnation]] portrayed by the 44 year-old Dan Payne, assuaging some of the casting doubts.
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** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person is playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
** The casting of 76 year-old Creator/LanceHenriksen as usually young adult hero Obsidian has raised quite a few eyebrows. [[http://screenrant.com/legends-tomorrow-obsidian-two-versions/ It would later be clarified that Henriksen is playing an older version of the character,]] with Obisidian's [[TimeShiftedActor younger incarnation]] portrayed by the 44 year-old Dan Payne, assuaging some of the casting doubts.
* QuestionableCasting: Luke Bilyk as Elvis Presley. He can't play the guitar, his singing is clearly dubbed, and he certainly doesn't look the part. Were there seriously no better options out there?
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* WTHCastingAgency: Luke Bilyk as Elvis Presley. He can't play the guitar, his singing is clearly dubbed, and he certainly doesn't look the part. Were there seriously no better options out there?
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Shayan Sobhian's rendition of Music/CatStevens' Peace Train.
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** "Space Girl" sounds uncannily like a real Music/DavidBowie song, in addition to being quite catchy.
** Shayan Sobhian's rendition of Music/CatStevens' Peace Train.
** "Space Girl" sounds uncannily like a real Music/DavidBowie song, in addition to being quite catchy.
** Shayan Sobhian's rendition of Music/CatStevens' Peace Train.
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** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person [[ButNotTooBlack is playing]] someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
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** The casting choice of [[Creator/MaisieRichardsonSellers Maisie Richardson-Sellers]] as Amaya Jiwe, the grandmother of Mari [=McCabe=]/Vixen, [[https://twitter.com/MeisterMahnIV/status/746143377687777280 has been criticized]] due to the fact that a relatively light-skinned person [[ButNotTooBlack is playing]] playing someone who is presumably from Africa, given Mari's backstory from [[WesternAnimation/{{Vixen}} her own show]].
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* OutOfTheGhetto: In a landscape of superhero shows veering hard into TrueArtIsAngsty and going DarkerAndEdgier, it's this band of lovable time-traveling self-described "idiots" that landed on several publications' year-end best-of-television lists in 2018-19, from ''Time'' to ''Rolling Stone'' to [[Creator/RogerEbert Roger Ebert's]] website.
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* OutOfTheGhetto: In a landscape of superhero shows veering hard into TrueArtIsAngsty and going DarkerAndEdgier, DarkerAndEdgier territory, it's this band of lovable time-traveling self-described "idiots" that landed on several publications' year-end best-of-television lists in 2018-19, from ''Time'' to ''Rolling Stone'' to [[Creator/RogerEbert Roger Ebert's]] website.
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* MoralEventHorizon: See [[MoralEventHorizon/{{Arrowverse}} here]].
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** If the "Legends of" two-parter didn't tell you enough how bad Savage is, him murdering Rip Hunter's wife [[WouldHurtAChild and son]] during his global conquest in the ''very first scene'' surely does. He only gets worse in the third episode when the Savage of the past hears of this and gloats about how he looks forward to doing it.
** Chronos killing two innocent civilians simply because they were witnessing Rip Hunter's ship take off. The team, however, doesn't know about this, and after TheReveal, start trying to reform him.
** Mikhail sadistically torturing Mick and Ray with glee.
** The Time Masters cross it when they condition Mick into becoming Chronos to hunt down the Legends. And when he fails, they deploy the robotic Hunters to finish the job. When they fail, they decide to RetGone the team.
** If the "Legends of" two-parter didn't tell you enough how bad Savage is, him murdering Rip Hunter's wife [[WouldHurtAChild and son]] during his global conquest in the ''very first scene'' surely does. He only gets worse in the third episode when the Savage of the past hears of this and gloats about how he looks forward to doing it.
** Chronos killing two innocent civilians simply because they were witnessing Rip Hunter's ship take off. The team, however, doesn't know about this, and after TheReveal, start trying to reform him.
** Mikhail sadistically torturing Mick and Ray with glee.
** The Time Masters cross it when they condition Mick into becoming Chronos to hunt down the Legends. And when he fails, they deploy the robotic Hunters to finish the job. When they fail, they decide to RetGone the team.
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* MoralEventHorizon: If you haven't watched ''Arrow'' or ''The Flash'' then you might not realize how horrible Eobard Thawne and Damien Darhk are, but the show is more than happy to remind viewers of how awful they are in the season premiere more where they try to blow up New York City with a nuke.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Bishop commits a number of despicable actions throughout the season, but in the season's penultimate episode we see a new low to his depravity, when he [[spoiler:poisons John Constantine, sets a bomb to [[WouldHurtAChild destroy the half-Necrian eggs of Kayla and Mick]] which possibly kills the latter, and reveals that his ultimate intention is to ''encourage'' an alien invasion of Earth to [[OmnicidalManiac hasten its destruction]], so that [[ItsAllAboutMe he alone]] can restart it]].
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** Subverted with Mick Rory. In "Marooned" he betrays the team and tries to kill Sara, but this doesn't stop the team from reforming Mick after he becomes Chronos.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Vostock was so excited to fuse with Stein, that she ignored his explanations about the need for the stabilizer and went ahead and did it. Naturally when Jax manages to get Martin out, she explodes due to the power.
** A woman at a party in the 1950s mistakes Kendra for a waitress; all very bigoted and unenlightened. Except that Kendra only ''just'' came in the room, with a man she's still standing next to, isn't dressed remotely like a waitress and doesn't even fit the racial profile of hired help at the time.
** It is almost trivially easy for Savage to manipulate the team in "River of Time", but Ray really takes the cake when he enters Savage's cell after Savage blatantly goads him into a physical fight, which of course Ray loses handily. And this from one of the smartest men in the world.
*** Of course, sparing Savage for the sake of Carter's sanity was idiotic in its own right.
** Vostock was so excited to fuse with Stein, that she ignored his explanations about the need for the stabilizer and went ahead and did it. Naturally when Jax manages to get Martin out, she explodes due to the power.
** A woman at a party in the 1950s mistakes Kendra for a waitress; all very bigoted and unenlightened. Except that Kendra only ''just'' came in the room, with a man she's still standing next to, isn't dressed remotely like a waitress and doesn't even fit the racial profile of hired help at the time.
** It is almost trivially easy for Savage to manipulate the team in "River of Time", but Ray really takes the cake when he enters Savage's cell after Savage blatantly goads him into a physical fight, which of course Ray loses handily. And this from one of the smartest men in the world.
*** Of course, sparing Savage for the sake of Carter's sanity was idiotic in its own right.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Amaya calling out Sara for not using the Spear when they had the chance, even though they had no idea how to use it.
** Despite having the means to literally rewrite reality, Thawne doesn't use the Spear to bring back his ancestor, Eddie, which would fix the issue of him being a ParadoxPerson and get the Black Flash to leave him alone. Instead, he just creates a world designed to pander to his ego, locks the Black Flash in a cage, and considers the problem solved, which comes back to bite him in the finale, when the Spear is depowered and an uncaged Black Flash [[OhCrap comes calling]].
** The Legends pile on Rory for what was a genuine mistake, accusing him of being unloyal to his face, pretty much showing that after all this time they still don't trust him, even though he's shown to be loyal (if rogue-ish) to them dozens of times. This behavior is what ends up pushing him to betray the team and join the Legion. Later, when he feels bad for what the Legion did to them, he risks his life to bring them back, proving once again his loyalty to them. What do they do after he does this? ''Again'' they accuse him of not being trustworthy and leave him behind, which yet again makes him go back to the Legion to make them aware of their plans.
** Amaya calling out Sara for not using the Spear when they had the chance, even though they had no idea how to use it.
** Despite having the means to literally rewrite reality, Thawne doesn't use the Spear to bring back his ancestor, Eddie, which would fix the issue of him being a ParadoxPerson and get the Black Flash to leave him alone. Instead, he just creates a world designed to pander to his ego, locks the Black Flash in a cage, and considers the problem solved, which comes back to bite him in the finale, when the Spear is depowered and an uncaged Black Flash [[OhCrap comes calling]].
** The Legends pile on Rory for what was a genuine mistake, accusing him of being unloyal to his face, pretty much showing that after all this time they still don't trust him, even though he's shown to be loyal (if rogue-ish) to them dozens of times. This behavior is what ends up pushing him to betray the team and join the Legion. Later, when he feels bad for what the Legion did to them, he risks his life to bring them back, proving once again his loyalty to them. What do they do after he does this? ''Again'' they accuse him of not being trustworthy and leave him behind, which yet again makes him go back to the Legion to make them aware of their plans.
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** Although Amaya has a RelationshipUpgrade with Nate at the end of Season 2, quite a few fans wished she had instead been paired with Mick as they had plenty of apparent development and even the producers described them as having a (platonic) "Beauty-and-the-Beast" dynamic. Compounding this is the [[HoYay homoerotic subtext]] many of those same fans saw between Nate and Ray, making them ShipMates of a sort.
** In Season 3, "[[PortmanteauCoupleName Avalance]]", or [[FoeYayShipping Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe]], at least until it became canon in 3x12.
** In Season 3, "[[PortmanteauCoupleName Avalance]]", or [[FoeYayShipping Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe]], at least until it became canon in 3x12.
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** Although Amaya has a RelationshipUpgrade with Nate at the end of Season 2, quite a few fans wished she had instead been paired with Mick as they had plenty of apparent development and even the producers described them as having a (platonic) "Beauty-and-the-Beast" dynamic. Compounding this is the [[HoYay homoerotic subtext]] many of those same fans saw between Nate and Ray, making them ShipMates of a sort.
** In Season 3, "[[PortmanteauCoupleName Avalance]]", or [[FoeYayShipping Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe]], at least until it became canon in 3x12.sort
** In Season 3, "[[PortmanteauCoupleName Avalance]]", or [[FoeYayShipping Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe]], at least until it became canon in 3x12.
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** Valentina Vostok, [[StatuesqueStunner a tall]], [[AloofDarkHairedGirl dark-haired]] HotScientist dark-haired]], sexy scientist and the villains' resident MsFanservice who speaks [[SensualSlavs in a sexy Russian accent]].
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** The first proper episode of Legends S5 (following its installment of the crossover) wasted little time in addressing complaints about S4. [[spoiler: The Time Bureau is disbanded off-screen, with Ava joining the Legends onboard the Waverider and Gary teaming up with Constantine. Nate learns about Zari, and Mona is written out, with Mick retiring from writing romance novels, letting Mona take over the author identity, and Mick returning to pulling heists.]]
** In the previous season, people took notice of how Sara Lance's reaction to the death of her father wasn't properly explored in the season four premier not long after he died. In Legends S5's first proper episode, Sara Lance is this time shown coming to terms with Oliver's death from the CrisisCrossover not long ago.
** The first proper episode of Legends S5 (following its installment of the crossover) wasted little time in addressing complaints about S4. [[spoiler: The Time Bureau is disbanded off-screen, with Ava joining the Legends onboard the Waverider and Gary teaming up with Constantine. Nate learns about Zari, and Mona is written out, with Mick retiring from writing romance novels, letting Mona take over the author identity, and Mick returning to pulling heists.]]
** In the previous season, people took notice of how Sara Lance's reaction to the death of her father wasn't properly explored in the season four premier not long after he died. In Legends S5's first proper episode, Sara Lance is this time shown coming to terms with Oliver's death from the CrisisCrossover not long ago.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Original Zari is finally brought back in a substantial role, after the previous season teased it but never committed.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After several years of complaints about the show's lack of DC characters, this season [[spoiler:brought back Eobard Thawne and introduced Booster Gold]].
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** After the controversial decision of Rip quitting the Legends, it was announced he'd still be in the show forming a new organization of Time Masters -- called the Time Bureau.
** Sara off-handedly mentions having a one time stand with a male Time Bureau agent, as well as having a fling with John Constantine, after a couple years of complaints that the writers seemed to forget [[NoBisexuals she's bisexual rather than just being into ladies]]. Similarly, John himself has his canonical sexuality acknowledged and referenced (even getting some ShipTease with poor Gary, of all people) after his origin show was criticized for [[ButNotTooBi severely]] [[NoBisexuals downplaying]] his interest in men.
** After ''The Flash'' was criticized for greatly underusing Wally West [[note]]a character who has, historically, been short-changed by DC in favor of Barry Allen ever since the latter's return, which included having Wally's stories, allies, and villains adapted into the show with Barry in his place (including in the Arrowverse), despite Wally's tenure effectively being the basis for the Flash in popular culture prior to the TV series. Wally's fans got excited to see him in the spotlight when Flash Season Three ended with Barry sacrificing himself to the Speed Force, but the Season Four premiere has him and the gang get their butts kicked in their very first battle scene and immediately decide it's time to get Barry back; not a ''single'' scene of him being the awesome successor to Barry that he was for decades of comics. A few episodes later he decides he's redundant and [[PutOnABus leaves]]. Though no one believed Barry was gone forever, Wally fans had hoped for better than ''that.'' The Barry-in-prison arc was also a good opportunity for Wally to step in as resident speedster, but it was not to be[[/note]], leading to many fans to petition for him to join the ''Legends'', the announcement came that not only was he appearing, but as of 3.13, would become a series regular. On top of this, when he ''does'' appear, he's shown acting more like his classic ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' self[[note]]which for many, was not just their introduction to Wally West, but was ''the'' mainstream depiction of the Flash as a whole prior to the TV show's existence[[/note]], bringing a ''lot'' of fun to the show and proving SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct regarding Keiynan Lonsdale's performance as him.
** Rip being the one to recruit Wally since like him, many see Rip as an underused character, and he and Wally working together did show promise. Plus, many believe that Rip could mentor Wally in the dangers of TimeTravel better since he has more self-restraints compared to Barry.
** After the controversial decision of Rip quitting the Legends, it was announced he'd still be in the show forming a new organization of Time Masters -- called the Time Bureau.
** Sara off-handedly mentions having a one time stand with a male Time Bureau agent, as well as having a fling with John Constantine, after a couple years of complaints that the writers seemed to forget [[NoBisexuals she's bisexual rather than just being into ladies]]. Similarly, John himself has his canonical sexuality acknowledged and referenced (even getting some ShipTease with poor Gary, of all people) after his origin show was criticized for [[ButNotTooBi severely]] [[NoBisexuals downplaying]] his interest in men.
** After ''The Flash'' was criticized for greatly underusing Wally West [[note]]a character who has, historically, been short-changed by DC in favor of Barry Allen ever since the latter's return, which included having Wally's stories, allies, and villains adapted into the show with Barry in his place (including in the Arrowverse), despite Wally's tenure effectively being the basis for the Flash in popular culture prior to the TV series. Wally's fans got excited to see him in the spotlight when Flash Season Three ended with Barry sacrificing himself to the Speed Force, but the Season Four premiere has him and the gang get their butts kicked in their very first battle scene and immediately decide it's time to get Barry back; not a ''single'' scene of him being the awesome successor to Barry that he was for decades of comics. A few episodes later he decides he's redundant and [[PutOnABus leaves]]. Though no one believed Barry was gone forever, Wally fans had hoped for better than ''that.'' The Barry-in-prison arc was also a good opportunity for Wally to step in as resident speedster, but it was not to be[[/note]], leading to many fans to petition for him to join the ''Legends'', the announcement came that not only was he appearing, but as of 3.13, would become a series regular. On top of this, when he ''does'' appear, he's shown acting more like his classic ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' self[[note]]which for many, was not just their introduction to Wally West, but was ''the'' mainstream depiction of the Flash as a whole prior to the TV show's existence[[/note]], bringing a ''lot'' of fun to the show and proving SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct regarding Keiynan Lonsdale's performance as him.
** Rip being the one to recruit Wally since like him, many see Rip as an underused character, and he and Wally working together did show promise. Plus, many believe that Rip could mentor Wally in the dangers of TimeTravel better since he has more self-restraints compared to Barry.
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** Season 2 very much gives the impression that the writing crew paid attention to exactly what people did and didn't like about Season 1. The Hawks are gone and Rip is MIA (though he does reappear in 2x08 suffering from amnesia), the BigBadDuumvirate are several characters who are already popular from elsewhere in the Arrowverse (not counting Malcolm Merlyn, whom many yearn to see properly punished for his crimes after ''Arrow'' failed to do so), and there's far more of a spirit of just how much plain fun you can have with this setup.
** Related to the above, Eobard Thawne being the ArcVillain of Season Two after Season One had no crossover with ''The Flash'' and many complained Vandal Savage was underpowered compared to the Legends.
** Felicity Smoak getting a superhero outfit in "Doomworld" after complaints she [[CivvieSpandex never wore a costume]] as Overwatch.
** Season 2 very much gives the impression that the writing crew paid attention to exactly what people did and didn't like about Season 1. The Hawks are gone and Rip is MIA (though he does reappear in 2x08 suffering from amnesia), the BigBadDuumvirate are several characters who are already popular from elsewhere in the Arrowverse (not counting Malcolm Merlyn, whom many yearn to see properly punished for his crimes after ''Arrow'' failed to do so), and there's far more of a spirit of just how much plain fun you can have with this setup.
** Related to the above, Eobard Thawne being the ArcVillain of Season Two after Season One had no crossover with ''The Flash'' and many complained Vandal Savage was underpowered compared to the Legends.
** Felicity Smoak getting a superhero outfit in "Doomworld" after complaints she [[CivvieSpandex never wore a costume]] as Overwatch.
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** When introduced in the ''Flash''-''Arrow'' crossover, Vandal Savage was mostly a StalkerWithACrush toward Hawkgirl, more Hath-Set than the comics' Savage. The first episode of ''Legends'' quickly reestablishes him as a conqueror who's manipulated world history toward his favor.
** "Left Behind" finally reveals that Talia Al-Ghul does exist in the Arrowverse; it's just that her childhood was far in the past. In Season Five of ''Arrow'', we meet her as an adult (played by Lexa Doig) and learn that she was Oliver's final mentor in his five years away.
** All of the questionable or just downright stupid moves the team made over the course of Season One are actually given a justification in "Destiny". They were being directly manipulated by the Time Masters to create a StableTimeLoop where Savage wins and can thus defend Earth from an alien invasion.
** When introduced in the ''Flash''-''Arrow'' crossover, Vandal Savage was mostly a StalkerWithACrush toward Hawkgirl, more Hath-Set than the comics' Savage. The first episode of ''Legends'' quickly reestablishes him as a conqueror who's manipulated world history toward his favor.
** "Left Behind" finally reveals that Talia Al-Ghul does exist in the Arrowverse; it's just that her childhood was far in the past. In Season Five of ''Arrow'', we meet her as an adult (played by Lexa Doig) and learn that she was Oliver's final mentor in his five years away.
** All of the questionable or just downright stupid moves the team made over the course of Season One are actually given a justification in "Destiny". They were being directly manipulated by the Time Masters to create a StableTimeLoop where Savage wins and can thus defend Earth from an alien invasion.
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** After the hugely negative reaction to Sara's death in ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' that many viewed as being both StuffedInTheFridge and [[BuryYourGays Bury Your Bisexuals]], the news that she is coming back ''and'' going to be a main cast member for this show has definitely been a pleasing announcement for her fans.
** Ray finally gets the shrinking powers of his [[ComicBook/TheAtom comics counterpart]] for this series, after numerous watchers complained about how he started out without them and with the emphasis on his suit being PoweredArmor, the character felt like an Film/IronMan ripoff. (Ray was initially supposed to be GadgeteerGenius [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Ted Kord]], which would have explained the armor, but ''Arrow'' didn't get a chance to move him away from the Ted Kord idea until the second half of Season 3.)
** As if to compensate for complaints that Felicity had more crossover appearances on ''{{Series/The Flash|2014}}'' than Oliver himself did, Oliver is by far the one with the most guest appearances on ''Legends of Tomorrow''.
** After the hugely negative reaction to Sara's death in ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' that many viewed as being both StuffedInTheFridge and [[BuryYourGays Bury Your Bisexuals]], the news that she is coming back ''and'' going to be a main cast member for this show has definitely been a pleasing announcement for her fans.
** Ray finally gets the shrinking powers of his [[ComicBook/TheAtom comics counterpart]] for this series, after numerous watchers complained about how he started out without them and with the emphasis on his suit being PoweredArmor, the character felt like an Film/IronMan ripoff. (Ray was initially supposed to be GadgeteerGenius [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Ted Kord]], which would have explained the armor, but ''Arrow'' didn't get a chance to move him away from the Ted Kord idea until the second half of Season 3.)
** As if to compensate for complaints that Felicity had more crossover appearances on ''{{Series/The Flash|2014}}'' than Oliver himself did, Oliver is by far the one with the most guest appearances on ''Legends of Tomorrow''.
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* ArtifactTitle: ''DC's'' Legends of Tomorrow, as the series went on fewer and fewer of the cast consisted of actual DC characters.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While Season 1 was met with a polarizing run, it is remembered far more fondly by the time Season 4 rocked around. Despite the overly serious tone of Season 1, it still had solid plots, more interesting villains (including a sizable collection from DC comics) and a better roster than post-Season 3 Legends (barring the Hawks). Vandal Savage is also now regarded more positively, in addition to his being RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap in Season 4, he's held in higher regard than most of the Legends {{Big Bad}}s aside from the Legion of Doom.
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* MagnificentBastard: Leonard Snart, [[MagnificentBastard/{{Arrowverse}} see here]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Leonard Snart, and Damien Darhk, [[MagnificentBastard/{{Arrowverse}} see here]].
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* CargoShip: Rip/Waverider. Which may or may not be canon considering that in the Season 2 episode "Land of the Lost", Rip has TheBigDamnKiss with the mental avatar of Gideon in his mind, something that the actual Gideon is confirmed to have remembered (and enjoyed) mere moments afterwards.
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* CargoShip: Rip/Waverider. Which may or may not be canon considering that in the Season 2 episode "Land of the Lost", Rip has TheBigDamnKiss with the mental avatar of Gideon in his mind, something that the actual Gideon is confirmed to have remembered (and enjoyed) mere moments afterwards.
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Tastes Like Diabetes is no longer a trope. Moving examples to other tropes when applicable.
