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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father, sister, and a guy he hitched a rid with when he was 17 and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with bipolar disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. That's not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.

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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father, sister, and a guy he hitched a rid ride with when he was 17 and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with bipolar disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. That's not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with bipolar disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. That's not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.

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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister father, sister, and a guy he hitched a rid with when he was 17 and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with bipolar disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. That's not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
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** Somewhat {{subverted|Trope}} for "Sweet Child". The riff was just Slash messing around and Axl had happened to hear it and write lyrics to it. [[QualityByPopularVote The fans love of the song made it epic]] when the band thought it was just going to be album filler.

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** Somewhat {{subverted|Trope}} The riff for "Sweet Child". The riff was Child o' Mine" is an interesting example, in that it started off as just Slash messing around and around. Axl had happened to hear it and write lyrics to it. [[QualityByPopularVote The fans love of the song made it epic]] when the band thought it was just going to be album filler.
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** Bumblefoot. Even with the animal infection-derived stage name, he may be the sanest person to ever play in this band. He comes off disarmingly normal and self-effacing by comparison with pretty much everyone else.

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** Bumblefoot. Even with the animal infection-derived stage name, he may be the sanest person to ever play in this band. He comes off disarmingly normal and self-effacing by comparison with pretty much everyone else.else, though repeating history by starting a side project with Scott Weiland may prove otherwise...

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* OnlySaneMan: Izzy. Leaving the band when he did allowed him to avoid getting caught up in the insanity that caused the band to fall apart.

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Izzy. Leaving the band when he did allowed him to avoid getting caught up in the insanity that caused the band to fall apart.apart.
** Bumblefoot. Even with the animal infection-derived stage name, he may be the sanest person to ever play in this band. He comes off disarmingly normal and self-effacing by comparison with pretty much everyone else.
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* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album. On one side you've got the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.

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* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album.''Chinese Democracy''. On one side you've got the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.





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\n* SongAssociation: "Paradise City" has become affiliated to ''VideoGame/BurnoutParadise''. The song is used as the theme to that game, which takes place in a fictional city called Paradise City.
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* TheScrappy: To many fans, Axl Rose is an unstable, tyrannical egomaniac who is personally responsible for ruining one of the greatest rock groups of all time.

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* TheScrappy: To many fans, Axl Rose is an unstable, tyrannical egomaniac who is personally responsible for ruining one of the greatest rock groups of all time.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a way, Izzy can be considered to be this. His guitar on Appetite and GNR Lies was playing the same as Slash's Rhythm Guitar parts, only at lower volume, so it's hard to hear his playing at all, and yet he's one of the most popular members. During a concert in 2012 in the O2, London, Axl says "We wanna introduce you to a friend of ours. You might... you might know this guy. Ladies and Gentlemen: Mr. Izzy Stradlin." Cue the biggest encore GNR has received since the Use Your Illusion Tour. For a guy who couldn't be heard on the albums he was credited on, he's pretty damn popular.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a way, Izzy can be considered to be this. His guitar on Appetite ''Appetite'' and GNR Lies ''GN'R Lies'' was playing the same as Slash's Rhythm Guitar rhythm guitar parts, only at lower volume, so it's hard to hear his playing at all, and yet he's one of the most popular members. During a concert in 2012 in the O2, London, Axl says "We wanna introduce you to a friend of ours. You might... you might know this guy. Ladies and Gentlemen: Mr. Izzy Stradlin." Cue the biggest encore GNR GN'R has received since the Use Your Illusion Tour. For a guy who couldn't be heard on the albums he was credited on, he's pretty damn popular.



* FandomRivalry: Some with Music/{{Nirvana}}, but even more with Stone Temple Pilots, current band of the ex-vocalist of Velvet Revolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of Music/{{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Kurt Cobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated.

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* FandomRivalry: Some with Music/{{Nirvana}}, but even more with Stone Temple Pilots, Music/StoneTemplePilots, current band of the ex-vocalist of Velvet Revolver.Music/VelvetRevolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of Music/{{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Kurt Cobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated.



* InternetBackdraft: And all because [[BrokenBase some people like the old GNR better than the one which released]] ''Chinese Democracy''. It rivals the [[Music/{{Sepultura}} Max Cavalera vs. Derrick Green]] fanwar in "fandoms broken because of replacements".

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* InternetBackdraft: And all because [[BrokenBase some people like the old GNR GN'R better than the one which released]] ''Chinese Democracy''. It rivals the [[Music/{{Sepultura}} Max Cavalera vs. Derrick Green]] fanwar in "fandoms broken because of replacements".



* OneSceneWonder: Often [[InvokedTrope invoked]]. Slash's session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
* OnlySaneMan: Izzy. Leaving the band when he did allowed him to avoid getting caught up in the insanity that caused the band to fall apart. Unless, of course, his leaving was what ''caused'' things to fall apart...
* ProtectionFromEditors: ''Chinese Democracy'' is the prime example of what happens when a egotistical tyrant is given virtually limitless time and cash to record a follow-up album.

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* OneSceneWonder: Often [[InvokedTrope invoked]].{{invoked|Trope}}. Slash's session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
* OnlySaneMan: Izzy. Leaving the band when he did allowed him to avoid getting caught up in the insanity that caused the band to fall apart. Unless, of course, his leaving was what ''caused'' things to fall apart...
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** Although much less prominent, there's a small group of people that don't know that "[[TheStooges "Raw Power]]" and "[[Music/{{Fear}} I Don't Care About You]]" aren't originals.

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** Although much less prominent, there's a small group of people that don't know that "[[TheStooges "Raw "[[Music/TheStooges Raw Power]]" and "[[Music/{{Fear}} I Don't Care About You]]" aren't originals.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: In a way, Izzy can be considered to be this. His guitar on Appetite and GNR Lies was playing the same as Slash's Rhythm Guitar parts, only at lower volume, so it's hard to hear his playing at all, and yet he's one of the most popular members. During a concert in 2012 in the O2, London, Axl says "We wanna introduce you to a friend of ours. You might... you might know this guy. Ladies and Gentlemen: Mr. Izzy Stradlin." Cue the biggest encore GNR has received since the Use Your Illusion Tour. For a guy who couldn't be heard on the albums he was credited on, he's pretty damn popular.


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* OneSceneWonder: Often [[InvokedTrope invoked]]. Slash's session work, even with some...[[WTHCastingAgency unusual collaborators]]...remains popular and in some cases outshines the main artist.
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** Although much less prominent, there's a small group of people that don't know that "[[TheStooges "Raw Power]]" and "[[Music/{{Fear}} I Don't Care About You]]" aren't originals.
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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing Music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with Bipolar Disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. Thats not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.

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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing Music music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with Bipolar Disorder, bipolar disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. Thats That's not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Z20fJH6I GIVE 'EM SOME REGGAE!!!]]

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* ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Z20fJH6I GIVE 'EM SOME REGGAE!!!]]
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*[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7Z20fJH6I GIVE 'EM SOME REGGAE!!!]]
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* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album. On one side you've got the [[RuinedFOREVER no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.

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* BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album. On one side you've got the [[RuinedFOREVER [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Tommy Stinson's most famous band is ''The Replacements''.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child O'Mine".

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child O'Mine".O'Mine" which stemmed from him beating her.
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* EpicRiff: "Sweet Child o' Mine". "Welcome to the Jungle" as well.
** Somewhat {{subverted|Trope}} for "Sweet Child". The riff was just Slash messing around and Axl had happened to hear it and write lyrics to it. [[QualityByPopularVote The fans love of the song made it epic]] when the band thought it was just going to be album filler.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Axl, of all people, got one when he sincerely thanked his fans on Twitter for helping get GNR into the Rock N Roll hall of fame in 2012, telling Them "This is Your victory". For a man so reviled, its nice to see he still cares about his true fans.

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Repair Dont Respond. And don\'t put yourself in examples. You are not a trope.


* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose, to a certain extent. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
** Or, y'know, just a plain old {{Jerkass}}.
** Axl definitely counts. His father was a control freak who raised him believing Music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with Bipolar Disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. Thats not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. Honestly, I don't know wheter to slap him or hug him. Maybe he needs both.

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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose, to a certain extent. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
** Or, y'know, just a plain old {{Jerkass}}.
** Axl definitely counts.
Rose. His father was a control freak who raised him believing Music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with Bipolar Disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. Thats not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. Honestly, I don't know wheter to slap him or hug him. Maybe The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he needs both.has suffered in life.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Axl, of all people, got one when he sincerely thanked his fans on Twitter for helping get GNR into the Rock N Roll hall of fame in 2012, telling Them "This is Your victory". For a man so reviled, its nice to see he still cares about his true fans.
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** Axl definitely counts. His father was a control freak who raised him believing Music and women were evil, he was sexually abused by his biological father and sister and physically abused by his stepfather and siblings, he has struggled with Bipolar Disorder, and his emotional immaturity is believed to be due to his abusive childhood. Thats not even going into his messy relationships and his girlfriend miscarrying, ruining his chance to become a father. Honestly, I don't know wheter to slap him or hug him. Maybe he needs both.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arguably drummer Matt Sorum. Axl certainly seems to feel this way; while he has described Slash, Izzy and Duff as ''"former members,"'' he usually refers to Sorum as a ''"former employee."'' Ouch.
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* OnlySaneMan: Izzy. Leaving the band when he did allowed him to avoid getting caught up in the insanity that caused the band to fall apart. Unless, of course, his leaving was what ''caused'' things to fall apart...

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* TearJerker: "Civil War", the so-called Illusions Trilogy (consisting of "November Rain", "Don't Cry", and "Estranged"), and "This I Love".
** The last two minutes of Coma are heart-wrenchingly beautiful.

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* TearJerker: "Civil War", the so-called Illusions Trilogy (consisting of "November Rain", "Don't Cry", and "Estranged"), and "This I Love".
** The last two minutes of Coma are heart-wrenchingly beautiful.
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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose, to a certain extent.

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* JerkassWoobie: Axl Rose, to a certain extent. The guy's a [[SmallNameBigEgo prima donna]] ControlFreak, but damn, he has suffered in life.
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* TheScrappy: To many fans, Axl Rose is an unstable, tyrannical egomaniac who is personally responsible for ruining one of the greatest rock groups of all time. YMMV, of course.

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* TheScrappy: To many fans, Axl Rose is an unstable, tyrannical egomaniac who is personally responsible for ruining one of the greatest rock groups of all time. YMMV, of course.
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* TheScrappy: To many fans, Axl Rose is an unstable, tyrannical egomaniac who is personally responsible for ruining one of the greatest rock groups of all time. YMMV, of course.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment - "My World" coming in at the end of ''Use Your Illusion II''. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
* BrokenBase - The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album. On one side you've got the [[RuinedForever no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
* CoveredUp - "Since I Don't Have You", "Ain't it Fun"; "[[BobDylan Knockin On Heaven's Door]]" and "[[Music/{{Wings}} Live And Let Die]]" for some folks as well.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment - BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "My World" coming in at the end of ''Use Your Illusion II''. Axl wrote that song all by himself while nurturing a love of NineInchNails, Music/NineInchNails, and put it on without informing the other band members. Slash only found out about the song after buying a copy.
* BrokenBase - BrokenBase: The fanbase is very split over the new GNR lineup and the Chinese Democracy album. On one side you've got the [[RuinedForever [[RuinedFOREVER no Slash, so it sucks]] camp, the people who think Axl's jumped the shark, those who want a re-release of ''Appetite for Destruction'', and those who simply don't like the new musicians and album. On the other, there are Axl fans, people who appreciate the talents of the "Hired Guns" and the new directions the music is taking, and people who just like Guns N' Roses regardless.
* CoveredUp - CoveredUp: "Since I Don't Have You", "Ain't it Fun"; "[[BobDylan "[[Music/BobDylan Knockin On Heaven's Door]]" and "[[Music/{{Wings}} Live And Let Die]]" for some folks as well.



* FandomRivalry - Some with {{Nirvana}}, but even more with Stone Temple Pilots, [[strike:former]]current band of the ex-vocalist of Velvet Revolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of {{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Kurt Cobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated.
* FirstInstallmentWins - ''Appetite for Destruction''
* FridgeBrilliance - The first six songs on Appetite For Destruction relate to drugs, violence and city life. The last six relate to love, romance and women. In other words, one half is "guns", the other "roses". Continuing the trend, Use Your Illusion is split into two albums, one predominently "guns" and the other predominently "roses".
* FunnyAneurysmMoment - Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child O'Mine".
* InternetBackdraft - And all because [[BrokenBase some people like the old GNR better than the one which released]] ''Chinese Democracy''. It rivals the [[{{Sepultura}} Max Cavalera vs. Derrick Green]] fanwar in "fandoms broken because of replacements".

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* FandomRivalry - FandomRivalry: Some with {{Nirvana}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, but even more with Stone Temple Pilots, [[strike:former]]current current band of the ex-vocalist of Velvet Revolver. Funnily enough, Axl was a fan of {{Nirvana}} Music/{{Nirvana}} and tried to get them to open for them on a tour, but Kurt Cobain refused because he felt their public image was ridiculous and outdated.
* FirstInstallmentWins - FirstInstallmentWins: ''Appetite for Destruction''
Destruction''.
* FridgeBrilliance - The first six songs on Appetite For Destruction relate to drugs, violence and city life. The last six relate to love, romance and women. In other words, one half is "guns", the other "roses". Continuing the trend, Use Your Illusion is split into two albums, one predominently "guns" and the other predominently "roses".
* FunnyAneurysmMoment -
FunnyAneurysmMoment: Axl's divorce from the woman who inspired "Sweet Child O'Mine".
* InternetBackdraft - InternetBackdraft: And all because [[BrokenBase some people like the old GNR better than the one which released]] ''Chinese Democracy''. It rivals the [[{{Sepultura}} [[Music/{{Sepultura}} Max Cavalera vs. Derrick Green]] fanwar in "fandoms broken because of replacements".



* MisaimedFandom - "Paradise City" is not a happy song.
* ProtectionFromEditors - ''Chinese Democracy'' is the prime example of what happens when a egotistical tyrant is given virtually limitless time and cash to record a follow-up album.

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* MisaimedFandom - MisaimedFandom: "Paradise City" is not a happy song.
* ProtectionFromEditors - ProtectionFromEditors: ''Chinese Democracy'' is the prime example of what happens when a egotistical tyrant is given virtually limitless time and cash to record a follow-up album.



* TearJerker - "Civil War", the so-called Illusions Trilogy (consisting of "November Rain", "Don't Cry", and "Estranged"), and "This I Love".

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* TearJerker - TearJerker: "Civil War", the so-called Illusions Trilogy (consisting of "November Rain", "Don't Cry", and "Estranged"), and "This I Love".
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* DorkAge/ FanonDiscontinuity - Has anyone paid attention to them after everyone save for Axl Rose and Dizzy Reed left?

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