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* FanNickname: Fans refer to the Afro-American Wally West as "Choco Wally", to differentiate him from the red-haired speedster with an identical name, whom they have nicknamed "Strawberry Wally".
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** Had its own page at one point, however obviously the biggest critique people have towards the comic is [[spoiler: having Dr. Manhattan appear as the sole force behind the New 52, connecting ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' to the DC Universe]]. Whether or not this [[spoiler: is good commentary on the negative effects ''Watchmen'' had in starting UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks or a big middle finger to those who like the series and to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons is up in the air]].

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** Had its own page at one point, however obviously the biggest critique people have towards the comic is [[spoiler: having Dr. Manhattan appear as the sole force behind the New 52, connecting ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' to the DC Universe]]. Whether or not this [[spoiler: is good commentary on the negative effects ''Watchmen'' had in starting UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks or a big middle finger to those who like the series and to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons is up in the air]].

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More appropriate trope, per cleanup thread.


* HoYay: The cover to ''Superman'' #10 has Superman and Jonathan staring down Batman and Damian, yet the way Superman and Batman are positioned, it looks like they want to kiss.



* {{Narm}}: The cover to ''Superman'' #10 has Superman and Jonathan staring down Batman and Damian, yet the way Superman and Batman are positioned, it looks like they want to kiss.
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Not what this trope is about. Narm is "serious moment that is unintentionally funny", not "comical moment that ends up being unsettling".


* {{Narm}}:
** Ted Kord's face [[spoiler:after learning the Scarab is not alien tech but magic]] is a [[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gamestooge/27257308691/in/dateposted-public/ supremely goofy grin]] that's downright creepy.
** The cover to ''Superman'' #10 has Superman and Jonathan staring down Batman and Damian, yet the way Superman and Batman are positioned, it looks like they want to kiss.

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* {{Narm}}:
** Ted Kord's face [[spoiler:after learning the Scarab is not alien tech but magic]] is a [[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gamestooge/27257308691/in/dateposted-public/ supremely goofy grin]] that's downright creepy.
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{{Narm}}: The cover to ''Superman'' #10 has Superman and Jonathan staring down Batman and Damian, yet the way Superman and Batman are positioned, it looks like they want to kiss.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: "Kenan Kong", or in Chinese name order "Kong Kenan", [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/18/%E5%AD%94%E5%85%8B%E5%8D%97-kenan-kong-the-new-name-for-new-super-man/ is a plausible Chinese name,]] even if it reminds some of the very un-Chinese ''Series/KenanAndKel'' and ''Film/KingKong''. Parsed by Chinese characters, it would be ''Kong Ke-nan''. And ''Kong'' is the surname of none other than Creator/{{Confucius}} (derived from ''Kong Fu-zi'').
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As written, this is just a regular flaw, not a funny thing.


** Oliver, Emiko, and Dinah's attempts at [[BadassBoast Badass Boasts]] are more nonsensical than badass, particularly when Oliver tells a mook that there's a black chamber in his heart full of sharp objects. Partciularly this line, which can be summed up as "I want this to trend on social media"
-->'''Emiko Queen''': Try to objectify me and you'll bleed.
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** The bellow-mentioned Character Rerailment entries, plus other things that have reverted back to their Pre-reboot status. For some newer fans who liked the DarkerAndEdgier New 52 version of things, they feel disappointed at having their version tossed aside for the classic version to return. For older fans or fans who used the reboot as a GatewaySeries to the older stuff, however, its nice to see the 'actual' versions of everyone return, and in general to see the DC Universe actually feel ''like its supposed to''.

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** The bellow-mentioned Character Rerailment entries, plus other things that have reverted back to their Pre-reboot status. For some newer fans Fans who liked the DarkerAndEdgier New 52 version versions of things, they certain characters feel disappointed at having their version the newer characterizations tossed aside in order for the classic version ones to return. For older fans or fans who Older fans, on the other hand, are relieved that the characters they grew up with are written much closer to how they used the reboot as a GatewaySeries to the older stuff, however, its nice to see the 'actual' versions of everyone return, and in general to see the DC Universe actually feel ''like its supposed to''.be.

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Not an example; he is a major character in his book.


* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Kite Man, for his sheer absurdity and hilarity, like jumping through a window, stealing a woman's pearls, then jumping out another window, then parachuting with his giant kite thing. He's shown up a few more times, as an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, [[PokemonSpeak speaking only this:]] [[MemeticMutation "Kite Man. Hell yeah."]] [[spoiler: His utterly heartbreaking backstory just boosted his popularity even more.]]
** Baixi Wang, the "Bat-Man of China", for being a slightly overweight BadassNormal who nonetheless does a decent job playing the part of the detective and tech expert of the Chinese Justice League. The fact that he has a slight crush on the Wonder-Woman of China doesn't go unnoticed by fans, either.

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EnsembleDarkhorse: Kite Man, for his sheer absurdity and hilarity, like jumping through a window, stealing a woman's pearls, then jumping out another window, then parachuting with his giant kite thing. He's shown up a few more times, as an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, [[PokemonSpeak speaking only this:]] [[MemeticMutation "Kite Man. Hell yeah."]] [[spoiler: His utterly heartbreaking backstory just boosted his popularity even more.]]
** Baixi Wang, the "Bat-Man of China", for being a slightly overweight BadassNormal who nonetheless does a decent job playing the part of the detective and tech expert of the Chinese Justice League. The fact that he has a slight crush on the Wonder-Woman of China doesn't go unnoticed by fans, either.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


** Ted Kord's face [[spoiler:after learning the Scarab is not alien tech but magic]] is a [[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gamestooge/27257308691/in/dateposted-public/ supremely goofy grin]] that not only falls into the UncannyValley but ''plummets'' into it.

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** Ted Kord's face [[spoiler:after learning the Scarab is not alien tech but magic]] is a [[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gamestooge/27257308691/in/dateposted-public/ supremely goofy grin]] that not only falls into the UncannyValley but ''plummets'' into it. that's downright creepy.
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* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/DCUniverse here]].

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* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/DCUniverse [[Monster/TheDCU here]].
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Not anymore. Tom King's Batman is ridiculously divisive, and even those who do like the series agree that it's inferior to Snyder's run.


* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Many series that were poorly received with the New 52 (such as Comicbook/{{Deathstroke}} and Comicbook/GreenArrow) have been received more warmly. Other series that are coming off heavily praised runs (like Franchise/{{Batman}} and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) are considered to be just as good as their predecessors, if not better.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Many series that were poorly received with the New 52 (such as Comicbook/{{Deathstroke}} and Comicbook/GreenArrow) have been received more warmly. Other series that are coming came off heavily praised runs (like Franchise/{{Batman}} and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) are considered to be just as good as their predecessors, if not better.
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Correcting previous edit reason: Action Comics is considered good as a whole, not Batwoman.
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Here is a survey conducted on Reddit, proving this entry to be false. Red Hood is one of the most acclaimed titles, Batwoman is considered pretty good as a whole, and the others titles are still above average.


** To a lesser extent, titles such as ''Comicbook/SuicideSquad'', ''ComicBook/BatgirlAndTheBirdsOfPrey'', ''Action Comics'', and ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' have been criticized as not being quite as good as other titles.
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Not minor characters; therefore not eligible for this trope.


** Raptor, the savvy antagonist in the first arc of Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}, due to him having a ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, being politically motivated, and being a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. Also, for being a good Romani character who actively embraces his heritage and encourages Dick to do the same. Already, he's guest starring in Comicbook/{{Deathstroke}}, despite being around for less than a year.
*** Shawn Tsang/Defacer from the same series was really well liked for a ThirdOptionLoveInterest who many enjoyed for both having a cute relationship with Dick and well-developed drama and for being a brake from the regularly pushed Dick/Babs and Dick/Kori ships.
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Between the lack of context and the reference to another example, no effort was made while writing these entries.


** [[spoiler:Lana Lang is the Electric Superman, albeit the Red one.]]



** Roy Harper and Starfire (see CharacterRerailment)

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** Christopher Priest's ''Deathstroke'' averts this... in a way. While "The Professional" has nine parts in total, including the ''Rebirth'' issue's prologue, the actual story can be clearly broken into two halves; the first half with Batman, and the second that introduced Jericho. DC is actually collecting the series this way in trade as well.



* StrangledByTheRedString:
** Some fan-favorite relationships have been restored with very little build-up or chemistry, to the point where readers suspect that writers are merely PanderingToTheBase. For example, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown are sleeping together in ''Detective Comics'', despite never having done so pre-Flashpoint, and having had little interaction otherwise. Likewise, the Green Arrow and Black Canary relationship was quickly rushed to the point where they were hooking up and longing for each other, despite sharing just a few encounters.
** Averted with Wally West and Linda Park. While it seems to be a ForegoneConclusion Linda will end up with Wally again, ''Titans'' seems to want to realistically pace Linda rediscovering what it was about Wally that she fell in love with. Wally realizes that in her mind, he's just a stranger to him, and has to rebuild his relationship with her from square one. Of course, this ended up blowing up it its face a bit, as Linda was quickly moved out of focus and many people ''do'' just want her to remember her previous life, especially given that Wally ''does'' and can very easily be a vehicle for her to remember too.

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* StrangledByTheRedString:
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StrangledByTheRedString: Some fan-favorite relationships have been restored with very little build-up or chemistry, to the point where readers suspect that writers are merely PanderingToTheBase. For example, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown are sleeping together in ''Detective Comics'', despite never having done so pre-Flashpoint, and having had little interaction otherwise. Likewise, the Green Arrow and Black Canary relationship was quickly rushed to the point where they were hooking up and longing for each other, despite sharing just a few encounters.
** Averted with Wally West and Linda Park. While it seems to be a ForegoneConclusion Linda will end up with Wally again, ''Titans'' seems to want to realistically pace Linda rediscovering what it was about Wally that she fell in love with. Wally realizes that in her mind, he's just a stranger to him, and has to rebuild his relationship with her from square one. Of course, this ended up blowing up it its face a bit, as Linda was quickly moved out of focus and many people ''do'' just want her to remember her previous life, especially given that Wally ''does'' and can very easily be a vehicle for her to remember too.
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* ShockingMoments: ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1 with all of its heavy reveals.
* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: Wally West's return.]]
** Batman discovering [[spoiler: [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} the Comedian's button]] ]] in the Batcave.
** [[spoiler: Bruce Wayne's proposal to Catwoman.]]
** The parallel structure of ''Batman'' #36, where Batman and Superman confess to their respective significant others [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments how important the other one is to them.]]

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** Jason Todd in the new series of Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws. Some find that he's written with more nuance before, while others think he's still written as a CreatorsPet like in the previous series.

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** Jason Todd in the new series of Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws. Some find that he's written with more nuance before, while others think he's he'/s still written as a CreatorsPet like in the previous series.



*** Wally is perfect because he represents nearly everything New 52 tried to do away with. He's a legacy hero, arguably the character who's title most embraced legacy oustide of JSA. He was married with kids. He's one of the least angst ridden characters, who embraces the life of a superhero, and wouldn't dream of being anything else.
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** "Kite Man. Hell Yeah."
** "She murdered 237 people!" Regarding a certain revelation about Catwoman, [[spoiler: which later ended up being untrue.]]

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"She murdered 237 people!" Regarding a certain revelation about Catwoman, [[spoiler: which later ended up being untrue.]]]] Context?



** From Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, "You're like 50 shades of grating."

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** %%ZCE** From Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, "You're like 50 shades of grating."
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In order: "Past event" misuse, "Concurrent event" misuse, Fan Myopia.


* HilariousInHindsight:
** ''Somehow'' Flashpoint! Thomas Wayne's letter leads Bruce to find [[spoiler:[[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} The Comedian's bloodied smiley button]] buried deep within the Batcave. Strange on its own, but hilarious considering the Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice Thomas Wayne was played by none other than Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan, who portrayed The Comedian in ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'']].
** The same day that ''DC Universe: Rebirth'' #1 came out, Creator/MarvelComics released the first issue of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaSteveRogers'' in which [[spoiler:Cap is revealed to be a HYDRA sleeper agent the entire time]]--more or less proving the entire point that Johns made with the one-shot about how cynicism and edginess has corrupted the industry.
** An upcoming ''Superman'' storyline is called "Superman Black". Cue comparisons to [[Anime/DragonBallSuper Goku Black]], even if it isn't something like that.
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* TakeThatScrappy: Pandora, the character responsible for the creation of the New 52 continuity (and who is as a result, heavily associated with the reboot by fans) [[spoiler:is brutally and unceremoniously killed by Doctor Manhattan. Sadly, it turned out she was TheScapegoat, and [[ComicBook/DoomsdayClock Jon was the true responsible]]]].

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* TakeThatScrappy: Pandora, the character responsible for the creation of the New 52 continuity (and who is as a result, heavily associated with the reboot by fans) [[spoiler:is brutally and unceremoniously killed by Doctor Manhattan. Sadly, it turned out she was TheScapegoat, and [[ComicBook/DoomsdayClock Jon was the true responsible]]]].responsible party]]]].

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