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** Megatron was originally going to appear during the Cybertron-set opening sequence, but Knight realized this would [[SeriesContinuityError contradict the 2007 movie]], which they were still at the time writing this movie as being in continuity with -- he was frozen on Earth during the time the film was set -- and so the appearance was scrapped. Travis Knight considered putting him back in after deciding to part ways from the [=BayVerse=], but then felt that enough was going on in the war on Cybertron already, so Megatron was axed for the second and final time. A toy of his design was released in 2024 as part of the '"Studio Series'' line, based on this he would have been a triple changer.
*** Speaking of ''Studio Series'' it will also receive a toy of Soundwave's minion Rumble in the movie's styling, suggesting he was planned to appear at one point as well.

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** Megatron was originally going to appear during the Cybertron-set opening sequence, but Knight realized this would [[SeriesContinuityError contradict the 2007 movie]], which they were still at the time writing this movie as being in continuity with -- he was frozen on Earth during the time the film was set -- and so the appearance was scrapped. Travis Knight considered putting him back in after deciding to part ways from the [=BayVerse=], but then felt that enough was going on in the war on Cybertron already, so Megatron was axed for the second and final time. A toy of his design was released in 2024 as part of the '"Studio Series'' line, based on this he would have been ''[[Toys/TransformersStudioSeries Studio Series]]'' toyline, which also is a triple changer.
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*** Speaking of ''Studio Series'' it will also receive a toy released toys of Sunstreaker and Soundwave's minion Rumble in the movie's styling, suggesting he was they were planned to appear at one point as well.
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** Travis Knight had originally written Megatron in the war on Cybertron in the film's prologue, but ultimately cut him from the film because this was incongruent with continuity (this was at the time when the film was still a prequel). Knight then filmed a [[TheStinger Stinger]] with Megatron, sporting a new design, frozen in Sector Seven's captivity, as he was [[Film/{{Transformers}} the 2007 film]]. However, as the film was gradually reworked into a SoftReboot, this scene was cut, much to Knight's consternation.

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** Travis Knight had originally written Megatron in the war on Cybertron in the film's prologue, but ultimately cut him from the film because this was incongruent with continuity (this was at the time when the film was still a prequel). Knight then filmed a [[TheStinger Stinger]] with Megatron, sporting a new design, frozen in Sector Seven's captivity, as he was [[Film/{{Transformers}} the 2007 film]].in ''Film/Transformers2007''. However, as the film was gradually reworked into a SoftReboot, this scene was cut, much to Knight's consternation.
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* IKnewIt: Many expected that Bumblebee will eventually [[spoiler:scan the 1976 Camaro at the end of the movie]], as some merchandise of him had the alt mode.
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** While this movie will end up making about $200 million less than Film/TransformersTheLastKnight, the CEO of Viacom confirmed early into its run that ''Bumblebee'' was “solidly profitable” while ''Last Knight'' lost over $100 million. This is likely due to the Chinese conglomerate, Tencent Productions, having given Paramount $60 million (a little less than half of the entire production budget) to both distribute ''Bumblebee'' in theaters and buy the streaming rights. It ironically made more money by making less money.

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** Megatron was originally going to appear during the Cybertron-set opening sequence, but Knight realized this would [[SeriesContinuityError contradict the 2007 movie]], which they were still at the time writing this movie as being in continuity with -- he was frozen on Earth during the time the film was set -- and so the appearance was scrapped. Travis Knight considered putting him back in after deciding to part ways from the [=BayVerse=], but then felt that enough was going on in the war on Cybertron already, so Megatron was axed for the second and final time.

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** Megatron was originally going to appear during the Cybertron-set opening sequence, but Knight realized this would [[SeriesContinuityError contradict the 2007 movie]], which they were still at the time writing this movie as being in continuity with -- he was frozen on Earth during the time the film was set -- and so the appearance was scrapped. Travis Knight considered putting him back in after deciding to part ways from the [=BayVerse=], but then felt that enough was going on in the war on Cybertron already, so Megatron was axed for the second and final time. A toy of his design was released in 2024 as part of the '"Studio Series'' line, based on this he would have been a triple changer.
*** Speaking of ''Studio Series'' it will also receive a toy of Soundwave's minion Rumble in the movie's styling, suggesting he was planned to appear at one point as well.
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** Sometime before release, the film went through ''very'' severe reshoots/rewrites, [[JustForPun transforming]] the movie from a straight prequel to a more ambiguous SoftReboot.

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** Sometime before release, the film went through ''very'' severe reshoots/rewrites, [[JustForPun transforming]] 'transforming' the movie from a straight prequel to a more ambiguous SoftReboot.

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%%** Fans are ''completely happy'' that Hasbro confirmed that ''Bumblebee'' is a complete reboot to the film franchise after 2 months of debate, given the reshoots/rewrites. Fans began to theorize this was the case pretty much as soon as Blitzwing, at the time believed to be Starscream, showed up in trailers sporting the look of a classic Seeker, and the theories got more intense as more information came out. When the movie itself was released, most of the audience either accepted it was a reboot or strongly believed it ''should be''. Fortunately, that turned out to be the case Hasbro went with.



* TheOtherMarty: A rather unusual instance of this occurred, as mentioned under CreatorBacklash, when Peter Cullen confirmed that he was brought in to dub over another actor who had already provided Optimus Prime's dialogue, which had already been animated beforehand. An early tv spot indicates that Jon Bailey (who is already in the movie as Soundwave and Shockwave) provided this temporary voice.

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* TheOtherMarty: A rather unusual instance of this occurred, as mentioned under CreatorBacklash, when Peter Cullen confirmed that he was brought in to dub over another actor who had already provided Optimus Prime's dialogue, which had already been animated beforehand. An early tv spot indicates that Jon Bailey (who is already in the movie as Soundwave and Shockwave) provided this temporary voice.
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** Travis Knight had originally written Megatron in the war on Cybertron in the film's prologue, but ultimately cut him from the film because this was incongruent with continuity (this was at the time when the film was still a prequel). Knight then filmed a [[TheStinger Stinger]] with Megatron, sporting a new design, frozen in Sector Seven's captivity, as he was [[Film/{{Transformers}} the 2007 film]]. However, as the film was gradually reworked into a reboot (thus no longer obligated to remain in continuity with the former), this scene was cut, much to Knight's consternation.

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** Travis Knight had originally written Megatron in the war on Cybertron in the film's prologue, but ultimately cut him from the film because this was incongruent with continuity (this was at the time when the film was still a prequel). Knight then filmed a [[TheStinger Stinger]] with Megatron, sporting a new design, frozen in Sector Seven's captivity, as he was [[Film/{{Transformers}} the 2007 film]]. However, as the film was gradually reworked into a reboot (thus no longer obligated to remain in continuity with the former), SoftReboot, this scene was cut, much to Knight's consternation.



** Sometime before release, the film went through ''very'' severe reshoots/rewrites, [[JustForPun transforming]] the movie from a straight prequel to a full-on ContinuityReboot.

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** Sometime before release, the film went through ''very'' severe reshoots/rewrites, [[JustForPun transforming]] the movie from a straight prequel to a full-on ContinuityReboot.more ambiguous SoftReboot.

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* FlipFlopOfGod: The film's status has gone back and forth on if it's a prequel to the Michael Bay movies or a complete continuity reboot of the franchise. It ''started'' production as a prequel, but during post-production the movie got overhauled and rewritten to be loosely connected to the past movies, indicating it was being repackaged as a reboot. Comments by producer Lorenzo Di Bonaventura indicated it was ''still'' a prequel, before eventually, Hasbro themselves confirmed at a Fan Media Panel at Toy Fair 2019 the film was the start of a "new storytelling universe", confirming it was indeed a full reboot. Later, Bonaventura confirmed that ''Bumblebee'' and its sequel would be a separate continuity but indicated that the Michael Bay films ''would'' still be continued after ''The Last Knight'', only for ''this'' to be thrown out a week later when he confirmed that instead, the next ''Transformers'' film would be a complete reboot and that ''Bumblebee'' and its sequel will be part of that films' continuity instead.
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** Many expected that Bumblebee will eventually [[spoiler:scan the 1976 Camaro at the end of the movie]], as some merchandise of him had the alt mode.
** Fans are ''completely happy'' that Hasbro confirmed that ''Bumblebee'' is a complete reboot to the film franchise after 2 months of debate, given the reshoots/rewrites. Fans began to theorize this was the case pretty much as soon as Blitzwing, at the time believed to be Starscream, showed up in trailers sporting the look of a classic Seeker, and the theories got more intense as more information came out. When the movie itself was released, most of the audience either accepted it was a reboot or strongly believed it ''should be''. Fortunately, that turned out to be the case Hasbro went with.

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* FlipFlopOfGod: The film's status has gone back and forth on if it's a prequel to the Michael Bay movies or a complete continuity reboot of the franchise. It ''started'' production as a prequel, but during post-production the movie got overhauled and rewritten to be loosely connected to the past movies, indicating it was being repackaged as a reboot. Comments by producer Lorenzo Di Bonaventura indicated it was ''still'' a prequel, before eventually, Hasbro themselves confirmed at a Fan Media Panel at Toy Fair 2019 the film was the start of a "new storytelling universe", confirming it was indeed a full reboot. Later, Bonaventura confirmed that ''Bumblebee'' and its sequel would be a separate continuity but indicated that the Michael Bay films ''would'' still be continued after ''The Last Knight'', only for ''this'' to be thrown out a week later when he confirmed that instead, the next ''Transformers'' film would be a complete reboot and that ''Bumblebee'' and its sequel will be part of that films' continuity instead.
instead. Even after [[Film/TransformersRiseOfTheBeasts said sequel]] released, the creative minds at Hasbro and Paramount could not come to a decision, with director Creator/StevenCapleJr going back and forth on whether it was a reboot and a "refresher," before eventually stating that he considered the first three Bay films as "gospel" and the last two as an AlternateContinuity.
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IKnewIt: Many expected that Bumblebee will eventually [[spoiler:scan the 1976 Camaro at the end of the movie]], as some merchandise of him had the alt mode.
** %%** Fans are ''completely happy'' that Hasbro confirmed that ''Bumblebee'' is a complete reboot to the film franchise after 2 months of debate, given the reshoots/rewrites. Fans began to theorize this was the case pretty much as soon as Blitzwing, at the time believed to be Starscream, showed up in trailers sporting the look of a classic Seeker, and the theories got more intense as more information came out. When the movie itself was released, most of the audience either accepted it was a reboot or strongly believed it ''should be''. Fortunately, that turned out to be the case Hasbro went with.
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** In the Japanese dub and, [[LightNovel/SagaOfTanyaTheEvil while not the first time she has voiced a villainous role before]], Creator/AoiYuuki's role as Shatter counts as this, as she is normally typecasted on voicing heroic roles, the TokenMiniMoe or TheCutie.

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** In the Japanese dub and, [[LightNovel/SagaOfTanyaTheEvil [[Literature/TheSagaOfTanyaTheEvil while not the first time she has voiced a villainous role before]], Creator/AoiYuuki's role as Shatter counts as this, as she is normally typecasted on voicing heroic roles, the TokenMiniMoe or TheCutie.
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* CreatorBacklash: Peter Cullen felt physically sick playing Optimus this time around. As [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSOIVh7PwAQ he explained in an interview]], he was brought in to dub over a temp track and only given a single day to record all his lines. Because Optimus was already fully animated, Cullen had to match the original voice actor's delivery and he felt this made his performance as Prime come across as insincere during the movie.

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* CreatorBacklash: Peter Cullen felt physically sick playing Optimus this time around. As [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSOIVh7PwAQ he explained in an interview]], he was brought in to dub over a temp track recorded by Jon Bailey (who was already voicing Soundwave and Shockwave) and only given a single day to record all his lines. Because Optimus was already fully animated, Cullen had to match the original voice actor's delivery and he felt this made his performance as Prime come across as insincere during the movie. Some of the lines as originally recorded by Bailey were used in the trailers prior to release.
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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}''.
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* RelationshipVoiceActor: This isn't the first time Peter Cullen and David Sobolov have both been in something ''Transformers''-related, as both had worked together on ''VideoGame/TransformersTheGameConsole'' and ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' as with Cullen as Optimus Prime on both projects and Sobolov as Brawl and Shockwave in the respective projects. Incidentally, this is Sobolov's fourth ''Transformers'' project, his first being as Depth Charge in ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars''.
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* NamesTheSame: The current father figure of Bumblebee’s human companion is [[{{Film/Transformers}} once again]] named Ron.
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** In the Hungarian dub, Shockwave is voiced by the same actor as in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', and Bumblebee himself is still played by János Bácskai, who voiced him in the Micheal Bay films and the second dub of ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''.
** In the Brazilian dub, ''Series/{{ALF}}'', who appears in a ShowWithinAShow, is voiced by Orlando Drummond, who had voiced tha character in his live-action series and its animated spin-off.

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** In the Hungarian dub, Shockwave is voiced by the same actor as in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', and Bumblebee himself is still played by János Bácskai, who voiced him in the Micheal Michael Bay films and the second dub of ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''.
** In the Brazilian dub, ''Series/{{ALF}}'', who appears in a ShowWithinAShow, is voiced by Orlando Drummond, who had voiced tha that character in his live-action series and its animated spin-off.
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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2022}}''.

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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2022}}''.Flash|2023}}''.
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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Series/TheFlash''.

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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Series/TheFlash''.''Film/{{The Flash|2022}}''.
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* FanNickname: The reboot series this movie may start is already called "Knightverse" and "Travisformers" by fans.
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*** The above sequence of would’ve foreshadowed Shatter and Dropkick’s plan in the third act. Originally, their goal was to detonate an Energon device that would bring nearby machines to life as an army to conquer Earth, which would double as a CallForward for the Decepticons’ plans for the Allspark in the 2007 movie. This was, of course, changed to them simply trying to send a message to the other Decepticons on Cybertron.
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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Series/TheFlash''.

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* CareerResurrection: It was something of one for screenwriter Christina Hodson, whose previous two screenwriting efforts, ''Film/{{Unforgettable}}'' ''Film/{{Unforgettable|2017}}'' and ''Film/ShutIn'', had been very poorly received. After this film's success, she landed writing jobs for big-budget comic book adaptations ''Film/BirdsOfPrey'' and ''Series/TheFlash''.
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*** The film originally tied directly into what ''Film/TransformersTheLastKnight'' presented -- Bumblebee being active on Earth for several decades before the 21st century -- and would have opened with Bumblebee already on the run from Sector Seven after having been hunted down. A deleted scene shows an earlier opening with narration from a tired and angry Bumblebee, growling that he's lost patience and faith in humanity due to their betrayal, outright saying they aren't worth saving, before attempting to run. However, this scene was reanimated to include the opening battle scene on Cybertron and presented Bumblebee's arrival as a recent event, with Burns chasing him for not knowing what he is, Bumblebee desperately trying to explain himself, and Burns [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure being willing to listen]].

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*** The film originally tied directly into what ''Film/TransformersTheLastKnight'' presented -- Bumblebee being active on Earth for several decades before the 21st century -- and would have opened with Bumblebee already on the run from Sector Seven after having been hunted down. A deleted scene shows an earlier opening with narration from a tired and angry Bumblebee, growling that he's lost patience and faith in humanity due to their betrayal, outright saying they aren't worth saving, before attempting to run. However, this scene was reanimated to include the opening battle scene on Cybertron and presented Bumblebee's arrival as a recent event, with Burns chasing him for not knowing what he is, Bumblebee desperately trying to explain himself, and Burns [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure being willing to listen]].listen]], at least before Blitzwing's sudden attack.
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You might as well say, "Charlie and her actress are both female." There's got to be a little more to 'shared background' than that.


* ActorSharedBackground: Both Charlie and her actress grew up in California.
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** In the Brazilian dub, TV actress Paola Oliveira voices Shatter.


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** In the Brazilian dub, ''Series/{{ALF}}'', who appears in a ShowWithinAShow, is voiced by Orlando Drummond, who had voiced tha character in his live-action series and its animated spin-off.
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* {{Jossed}}:
** When the first teaser was released, fans naturally assumed the red-and-grey Seeker was Starscream, who would be the film's BigBad, only for Travis Knight to reveal at Comic-Con 2018 that the Seeker's name was actually Blitzwing. [[spoiler: Since the Seeker is actually a StarterVillain killed off in the film's beginning, it makes they didn't want to waste Starscream himself on that role.]]
** Many fans had assumed Barricade would appear in the movie, which escalated when the 2nd trailer showed a scene of Bumblebee in a chase with a police car. In the film itself, Barricade doesn't appear, and the police car is just what it appears to be.
** Most fans believed the green conehead Seeker was either Acid Storm or Dirge; concept art reveals it to be Thrust.

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