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* Averted by memorials for the Armenian genocide, Greek genocide, and Sayfo (Assyrian genocide), because only a tiny fraction of the victims' names are known. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsitsernakaberd Tsitsernakaberd]] (Armenian genocide memorial) instead has a 100-meter wall listing the names of towns where Armenians were massacred or deported.
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Forgot to actually delete the paragraph. To be clear, the hypothetical scenario "villain blackmails his opponents by threatening to harm a hostage, and tells them the name of the hostage to turn up the emotional torque" may possibly be a trope, but it isn't The Dead Have Names.


Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.
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This paragraph was added to the description unilaterally, about six months ago. Apart from the fact that the trope Bulletproof Human Shield is misused here (it means a human shield actually blocking bullets, not the use of hostages to blackmail the enemy into not shooting), and the false application of Tropes Are Tools (this passage seems actually to be talking about real life, not about tropes in fiction), I also have trouble finding this relevant to the trope at hand at all. The editor who wrote this added in a movie quote from The Devils Own, but did not bother to add that movie as an example in the example section.
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This paragraph was added to the description unilaterally, about six months ago. Apart from the fact that the trope Bulletproof Human Shield is misused here (it means a human shield actually blocking bullets, not the use of hostages to blackmail the enemy into not shooting), and the false application of Tropes Are Tools (this passage seems actually to be talking about real life, not about tropes in fiction), I also have trouble finding this relevant to the trope at hand at all. The editor who wrote this added in a movie quote from The Devils Own, but did not bother to add that movie as an example in the example section.
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** To say that the placement of these is controversial is wildly understating it. It constitutes a practice about which practically all Jews and particularily the surviving descendants of the victims in Germany are [=LIVID=]! For very good reason, too: those are practically gravestones, they're on the pavement - and would you want to have tons of people trampling on an epitaph, walking their dogs over it (if the purpose of walking a dog [[UrineTrouble happens there]], don't blame the poor animal, anyway); or those who've had a few beers too many do any of the things people do who've had too much alcohol there (in particular, getting rid of said beverages one way or another ''onto'' the memorial)? Just think of what Extinction Rebellion does to paintings - but happening many, many times ''a day'' (and not with food, either) to the memories of the victims - and you've got a pretty good idea of why people opposing them think putting one up is adding insult to injury.\\
For this reason, some of those living near them put up flowerpots or gravelights directly next to the markers to at least partially avoid all these signs of disrespect for the dead (maybe ''intended'', but at any rate [[UnfortunateImplications implicitely condoned]] by those who put the things up) happening directly on the epitaph - or at any rate ''somewhat'' alert pedestrians to walk around them.[[note]]The city of Wittenberg (in what was formerly East Germany) managed to actually ''one up'' even the Stumble-Stones' UnfortunateImplications and take them up to eleven. \\
On the facade of its moderately old and rather famous cathedral, there's a medieval antijudaic carricature which depicts Jews as worshipping a pig. Statues and reliefs like that on and in medieval church architecture are actually not as rare as they should be (talk about "really the same God..."); and several of them remain to this day, because no one really knows what to do with them. There are only bad options, as both leaving them up (condoning them) and banning them to some antisemitism exhibition in a museum (erasure of evil at their point of origin) aren't really good.\\
Anyway, Wittenberg managed to TakeAThirdOption - that's even [=WORSE=]. Considerably so. They left the thing up - but installed what they call a "counter memorial" on the pavement in front of it (what's all this with Germans and stomping on remembrances, anyway?). Very "artistic", very much comemorating the evils of the Shoah - and including a Bible verse around the edge, once in Hebrew and once in German. Since I was talking about stomping on names, you can probably guess where this is going ... and it gets worse:\\
1) Trampeling on names (or memorials) is a big no-no in Judaism anyway (see above).\\
2) The verse in question is a line of a psalm prayed by religious Jews every morning - you might as well spit on their religion.\\
3) It includes instances of the name of God. And the makers of the memorial stone didn't write something like "the Lord" - they actually spelled it out ... in the Hebrew text, as well (which is somewhat of a no-no in and of itself).\\
4) Remember the stone is part of the pavement - so people step on God's name in Hebrew letters.\\
5) It's big enough, the street is narrow enough, and both versions of the verse are arranged in such a way that there's almost no way to walk past the church on that side ''without'' in some way trampling on God's name.\\
[6) To add insult to injury, the rest of the wording is your typical betterpersonish violence in the guise of compassion - apart from everything else the thing is also spectacularily ''bad'' "art".]\\
As some say: the original "Judensau" carricature on the facade is at least honest about its intentions - but as if one sow hadn't been enough, they wanted a "Zweitsau" (secondary pig) updating the insult for our times.[[/note]]
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* ''Literature/UnderHeaven'': When Shen Tai borrows a horse to head back to the capital, he also gets a soldier from the nearby army post assigned to help take care of its needs every day. At one point he realizes he's forgotten the man's name, and asks... shortly before he's killed in an overnight scuffle based on a misunderstanding.
--> [...]Tai said, "He is not nameless. His name was Wujen Ning. A soldier of the Second District army posted to Iron Gate Fortress, assigned by his commander to guard me and my horse, serving the emperor by obeying the orders of his officers, including myself."\\
He was trying, even as he spoke, to remember the man, his features, words.[...] Tai was relieved he'd remembered the name. Had been able to offer it to this courtyard assembly, to the gods.
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Irrelevant. The Geneva Conventions disapprove human shields as such, not specifically of "telling the others the name of the human shield, so they are even less willing to endanger them."


Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA. This was also a big reason why the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Geneva Conventions]] on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]]

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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA. This was also a big reason why the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Geneva Conventions]] on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]]
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* ''Literature/StarTrekNovelVerse'':
** In ''Literature/ASingularDestiny'', there is a brief interlude showing a casualty list of people killed in a specific sector of space. All of the names were of characters we never met, except for B'Elanna Torres and Miral Paris. However, both of them were actually still alive.
** Near the end of the ''Literature/StarfleetCorpsOfEngineers'' novella ''Wildfire'', there is an extract from the Captain's Log that lists the 23 (out of a crew of 40) crewmembers who were killed in that mission. The most "important" character in the list, Second Officer Duffy is just tossed into the list with no significant importance.



** In ''Literature/ASingularDestiny'', there is a brief interlude showing a casualty list of people killed in a specific sector of space. All of the names were of characters we never met, except for B'Elanna Torres and Miral Paris. However, both of them were actually still alive.
** Near the end of the ''Literature/StarfleetCorpsOfEngineers'' novella ''Wildfire'', there is an extract from the Captain's Log that lists the 23 (out of a crew of 40) crewmembers who were killed in that mission. The most "important" character in the list, Second Officer Duffy is just tossed into the list with no significant importance.
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* The WWI memorial in Redipuglia, Italy is a huge stairway with the names of the dead from the Italian 3rd Army, and on top is also a grave for the 600,000 unknown soldiers.

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** ''Music/AnthraciteFields'': During the {{oratorio}}'s first movement, "Foundation", the choir sings a list of names -- men who've died in Pennsylvania mining accidents. The libretto limits the list to men named John, and only those with short one-syllable surnames. There are still enough names to fill several minutes of the movement, even with different sets of singers sometimes reciting two sets of names simultaneously.

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** ''Music/AnthraciteFields'': During the {{oratorio}}'s first movement, "Foundation", the choir sings a long list of names -- men who've who died in Pennsylvania Pennsylvania's mining accidents. accidents between 1869 and 1916. The libretto limits the list is initially limited to men named John, and only those with short one-syllable surnames. There According to the libretto, there are still 298 of these names, listed alphabetically, from John Ace through to John Rudd -- enough names to fill last several minutes of the movement, minutes, even with two parts of the choir singing different sets of singers sometimes reciting two sets of names simultaneously.at the same time. The movement ends with another list of 35 names - longer, more unusual names that illustrate how the dead miners came from many different nations and cultures.
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** ''Music/AnthraciteFields'': During the {{oratorio}}'s first movement, "Foundation", the choir sings a list of names -- men who've died in Pennsylvania mining accidents. The libretto limits the list to men named John, and only those with short one-syllable surnames. There are still enough names to fill several minutes of the movement, even with different sets of singers sometimes reciting two sets of names simultaneously.
**''Music/FireInMyMouth'': For the original New York Philharmonic production, the last movement of the {{oratorio}}, "Fire", is accompanied by the names of the 146 victims of the [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire]], projected onto the wall behind the stage.
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** The first game has a scrolling list of all 30,000 US Marines who died in the nuclear blast.

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** The [[VideoGame/CallOfDuty4ModernWarfare first game game]] has a scrolling list of all 30,000 US Marines who died in the nuclear blast.



** ''Modern Warfare 3'' has yet another list, because many SAS succumbed to the London gas attacks.
--> '''Captain [=MacMillan=]:''' We put a lot of names on the [[ShrineToTheFallen clock tower]] this week, lad.

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** ''Modern Warfare 3'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyModernWarfare3'' has yet another list, because many SAS succumbed to the London gas attacks.
--> '''Captain --->'''Captain [=MacMillan=]:''' We put a lot of names on the [[ShrineToTheFallen clock tower]] this week, lad.

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** AltText: "[[SamusIsAGirl Wait, that second one is a woman?]] ...wait, [[MenAreTheExpendableGender if that bothers me, then why doesn't]]... man, this game is no fun anymore."

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* ''WebVideo/StampysLovelyWorld'': The "Top Paw Dog Assault Course", on top of being a Dog Assault Course, doubly serves as a memorial to remember the deceased dogs of the Lovely World. Each deceased dog's name is listed, along with a symbolic item to represent them and/or their death.
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* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': At the end of the fourth episode, Claire reads the names of the dead as they are cremated in the fusulage. They know nothing about them so the eulogies are based on what little information they can glean from their ID's, tickets, receipts, and whatever else they have in their pockets.

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* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': At the end of the fourth episode, Claire reads the names of the dead as they are cremated in the fusulage. fuselage. They know nothing about them them, so the eulogies are based on what little information they can glean from their ID's, tickets, receipts, and whatever else they have in their pockets.
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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA. This is also a big reason why the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Geneva Conventions]] on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]]

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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA. This is was also a big reason why the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Geneva Conventions]] on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]]
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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is also a big reason why the Geneva Conventions on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]] So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA.[[/note]]

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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is also a big reason why the Geneva Conventions on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]] So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA.IRA. This is also a big reason why the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Geneva Conventions]] on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]]
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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA.[[/note]]

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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. [[note]]This is how hostage videos work. This is also a big reason why the Geneva Conventions on just war were put into place: to put a stop to things like using civilians (of both the opposing and one's own side) as cover, marking it perfidous blackmail.[[/note]] So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.[[note]]This is[=/=]was a terror tactic popular (not only) with the IRA.[[/note]]
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If it pleases the TV Tropes community, we'll drop that particular example due to No Recent Examples Please.


* During the bombardment of Gaza by Israel in October 2023, the Gaza Ministry of Health shared the names of the 2913 Palestinian children who were killed as of October 26, 2023, in response to President Joe Biden's disputing the numbers of Palestinian casualties, [[https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033 which were estimated to have been upwards of 7028 Palestinian deaths]].
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* During the bombardment of Gaza by Israel in October 2023 to avert future Hamas threats, the Gaza Ministry of Health shared the names of the 2913 Palestinian children who were murdered by their own people using them as human shields[[note]]Numbers as of October 26, 2023, in response to President Joe Biden's disputing the numbers of Palestinian casualties, [[https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033 which were estimated to have been upwards of 7028 Palestinian deaths]][[/note]]. While the intent is a cynical one: making them [[ChildrenAreInnocent more effective]] ''as'' human shields in a media war - reading the names themselves can have the original trope's effect on the viewer, and turn the viewer against the people ''intentionally putting their own kids in harm's way''.

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* During the bombardment of Gaza by Israel in October 2023 to avert future Hamas threats, 2023, the Gaza Ministry of Health shared the names of the 2913 Palestinian children who were murdered by their own people using them as human shields[[note]]Numbers killed as of October 26, 2023, in response to President Joe Biden's disputing the numbers of Palestinian casualties, [[https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033 which were estimated to have been upwards of 7028 Palestinian deaths]][[/note]]. While the intent is a cynical one: making them [[ChildrenAreInnocent more effective]] ''as'' human shields in a media war - reading the names themselves can have the original trope's effect on the viewer, and turn the viewer against the people ''intentionally putting their own kids in harm's way''.deaths]].
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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.

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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.
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Ironically, this can also be [[TropesAreTools used]] to achieve some extent of a real life version of BulletproofHumanShield - not only is ''anyone'' less inclined to attack a hostage taker if it could harm a hostage: if it's a hostage ''you know'' it makes this problem ''way'' worse. So the hostage taker will "helpfully" introduce them ([[Film/TheDevilsOwn "And poor little Annie here..."]]) - not because they personally care about who the hostage is, but to make ''you'' care about the hostage even more; ensuring the hostage taker's safety from rescue attempts for fear of harming the hostages with them.
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* During the bombardment of Gaza by Israel in October 2023, the Gaza Ministry of Health shared the names of the 2913 Palestinian children who were killed as of October 26, 2023, in response to President Joe Biden's disputing the numbers of Palestinian casualties, [[https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033 which were estimated to have been upwards of 7028 Palestinian deaths]].

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* During the bombardment of Gaza by Israel in October 2023, 2023 to avert future Hamas threats, the Gaza Ministry of Health shared the names of the 2913 Palestinian children who were killed murdered by their own people using them as human shields[[note]]Numbers as of October 26, 2023, in response to President Joe Biden's disputing the numbers of Palestinian casualties, [[https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033 which were estimated to have been upwards of 7028 Palestinian deaths]].deaths]][[/note]]. While the intent is a cynical one: making them [[ChildrenAreInnocent more effective]] ''as'' human shields in a media war - reading the names themselves can have the original trope's effect on the viewer, and turn the viewer against the people ''intentionally putting their own kids in harm's way''.

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