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** The most misanthropic part of the whole manga has to be in the Conviction: Birth Ceremony arc. Sure, there's the obvious; a CorruptChurch with a fundamentalist inquisitor and his sadistic torturers. a pagan {{Cult}} that indulges in human sacrifice and cannibalism, and the violent campaign between the two trapping a population of displaced, starving war refugees. However, it turns out that these "ordinary people" are also not fully good either, falsely accusing people they don't like of heresy to get rid of them and robbing whatever goods left with violent force, driven by extremes like fear and distrust and spite towards everyone else. However, it is important to note that these horrible conditions were, [[InMysteriousWays in a way]], manipulated by the [[GreaterScopeVillain Godhand]], as this cumination of [[DespairEventHorizon widespread despair and misanthropy]] allows them to kickstart an [[KillEmAll Incarnation]] [[ZombieApocalypse Ceremony]]. Still, their plan works ''because'' of human nature, not in spite of it; they are smart enough to exploit this trope for their plans.

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** The most misanthropic part of the whole manga has to be in the Conviction: Birth Ceremony arc. Sure, there's the obvious; a CorruptChurch with a fundamentalist inquisitor and his sadistic torturers. a pagan {{Cult}} that indulges in human sacrifice and cannibalism, and the violent campaign between the two trapping a population of displaced, starving war refugees. However, it turns out that these "ordinary people" are also not fully good either, falsely accusing people they don't like of heresy to get rid of them and robbing whatever goods left with violent force, driven by extremes like fear and distrust and spite towards everyone else. However, it is important to note that these horrible conditions were, [[InMysteriousWays in a way]], manipulated by the [[GreaterScopeVillain Godhand]], as this cumination of [[DespairEventHorizon widespread despair and misanthropy]] allows them to kickstart an [[KillEmAll Incarnation]] an Incarnation [[ZombieApocalypse Ceremony]]. Still, their plan works ''because'' of human nature, not in spite of it; they are smart enough to exploit this trope for their plans.
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* ''Literature/RemembranceOfEarthsPast'': Played with. Her experiences during the Cultural Revolution are the cause of Wenjie's nihilism and other experiences of human destructiveness are why many members of the ETO believe humanity deserves to be destroyed. However, in the end it turns out that [[spoiler:humans are too soft and sentimental to survive in a harsh universe.]]
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** The most misanthropic part of the whole manga has to be in the Conviction: Birth Ceremony arc. Sure, there's the obvious; a CorruptChurch with a fundamentalist inquisitor and his sadistic torturers. a pagan {{Cult}} that indulges in human sacrifice and cannibalism, and the violent campaign between the two trapping a population of displaced, starving war refugees. However, it turns out that these "ordinary people" are also not fully good either, falsely accusing people they don't like of heresy to get rid of them and robbing whatever goods left with violent force, driven by extremes like fear and distrust and spite towards everyone else. However, it is important to note that these horrible conditions were, [[InMysteriousWays in a way]], manipulated by the [[GreaterScopeVillain Godhand]], as this cumination of [[DespairEventHorizon widespread despair and misanthropy]] allows them to kickstart an [[KillEmAll Incarnation]] [[ZombieApocalypse Ceremony]]. Still, their plan works ''because'' of human nature, not in spite of it; they are smart enough to exploit this trope for their plans.
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*** The Final Test for the candidates was worse. Random accidents begin to happen, which could have been avoided had they done as they were taught and been observant and paid attention. The Final Test escalates [[spoiler: into a huge KillEmAll, where the situation mimics them being thrown into the future with no help from the teachers, no easily accessible gas or water source and a place to sleep. It's pure survival. You "fail" the test by dying. The last seven students, one from each class, that are alive are picked for the project]].

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*** The Final Test for the candidates was worse. Random accidents begin to happen, which could have been avoided had they done as they were taught and been observant and paid attention. The Final Test escalates [[spoiler: into a huge KillEmAll, bloodbath, where the situation mimics them being thrown into the future with no help from the teachers, no easily accessible gas or water source and a place to sleep. It's pure survival. You "fail" the test by dying. The last seven students, one from each class, that are alive are picked for the project]].
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Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease We don't need any elaboration of all the bad things humans have done.

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Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease Remember, Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly. We don't need any elaboration of all the bad things humans have done.
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* The conclusion [[VillainProtagonist Aur]] from ''LightNovel/HowToBuildADungeonBookOfTheDemonKing'' has reached. He believes humanity is a collective of selfish beings who will sell out and betray anyone, anytime, anywhere if it means saving their behinds; something happened in his life, implied to be a massive betrayal that left him in shambles, that made him into the cold demon lord that Aur is today -- someone whose only life goal is to make humanity suffer and submit them to his rule. The irony is that Aur himself [[MisanthropeSupreme is a human being]], performing greater acts of evil out of misguided hatred; he is proving his own view to be right.

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* The conclusion [[VillainProtagonist Aur]] from ''LightNovel/HowToBuildADungeonBookOfTheDemonKing'' ''Literature/HowToBuildADungeonBookOfTheDemonKing'' has reached. He believes humanity is a collective of selfish beings who will sell out and betray anyone, anytime, anywhere if it means saving their behinds; something happened in his life, implied to be a massive betrayal that left him in shambles, that made him into the cold demon lord that Aur is today -- someone whose only life goal is to make humanity suffer and submit them to his rule. The irony is that Aur himself [[MisanthropeSupreme is a human being]], performing greater acts of evil out of misguided hatred; he is proving his own view to be right.
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* In one of the early ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' crossovers featuring the ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'', an alien called Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] plans to destroy both Earth-1 and Earth-2 in order to use the resulting energy to forge a new planet. When one of his underlings points out that this will kill billions of people, Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] argues that due to the human race's history of warfare, violence and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil slavery]], the universe will be better off without them.
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* ''Fanfic/AdventureTimeFrozenHearts'': Most of the characters in Ooo sees the humans as one and considering their leaders, their observation is not far off.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' likes to push this idea: ''every single evil thing'' that happens in the series can be traced back to human corruption and desire, and there is no external threat to humanity. Supernatural monsters? Humans dreamed them up. The demonic Apostles? All former humans who willingly and knowingly turned themselves into monsters. The God Hand? Same deal, but even more depraved and powerful. [[spoiler:The Idea of Evil, the UltimateEvil that is suggested to be behind everything? Born of unconscious collective human desire.]] All the horror and the suffering humanity goes through in the series is, ultimately, self-inflicted.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' likes to push this idea: ''every single evil thing'' that happens in the series can be traced back to human corruption and desire, and there is no external threat to humanity. Supernatural monsters? Humans dreamed them up. The demonic Apostles? All former humans who willingly and knowingly turned themselves into monsters. The God Hand? Same deal, but even more depraved and powerful. [[spoiler:The Idea of Evil, the UltimateEvil UnseenEvil that is suggested to be behind everything? Born of unconscious collective human desire.]] All the horror and the suffering humanity goes through in the series is, ultimately, self-inflicted.
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* ''VideoGame/ArteryGearFusion'': The main story provides many examples of this trope at work.
** During the initial outbreak of the first Puppet war, the humans ended up in a civil war for resources instead of teaming up to fight against the Puppets.
** [[spoiler:Queen Lisa Autoluna, the human leader of Autoluna Sky Port,]] invites the homeless and other less fortunate people to live in the safe areas. While she presents this decision in an inspiring speech, it is later revealed that [[spoiler: she is planning to forcibly convert humans she deems unfit into Artery Gears, and could not care less if they all died in the war.]]
** Continued from above: the more well-off humans are actually disgruntled that more people are given entry into the safe zone, viewing it as unfair as many had to pay much more to get here.
** When a Puppet Master breaks into a safe zone, the residents are all quick to point fingers at each other, blaming each other for bringing it into the city. This only succeeds in causing even more chaos.
** Autolunans view the battles between Artery Gears and Puppet Masters only as a source of entertainment. There are numerous tabloids and news reporters commentating on the war as if it was a sports game. Additionally, many articles make up untruthful headlines to make the Frontier seem like villains while painting Autoluna as a divine saviour.
** [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Atlas]] discusses this trope, pointing out how often humans seem to fight each other even during times of great need.
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** ''Film/TheFirstPurge'' shows that when the Purge was first implemented, people used it to get high and have orgies instead of going on murder sprees as the government expected. To correct that uncomfortable fact, they deploy armed mercenaries.

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** ''Film/TheFirstPurge'' shows that when the Purge was first implemented, people were in fact ''not'' bastards - they used it to get high and have orgies orgies, instead of going on murder sprees as the government expected. To correct that uncomfortable fact, they deploy armed mercenaries.''armed mercenaries''.
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-->'''Patch Adams:''' You know, Truman... in all of God's creations, only human beings kill their own species.

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-->'''Patch Adams:''' You know, Truman... in all of God's creations, only human beings kill their own species.[[note]]Actually, very much no. Not only are there plenty of animals that will kill members of their own species, and some that will kill ''and eat'' members of their own species, but on top of that chimpanzees have been observed committing what would amount to premeditated murder (if they were human), where a pack will work together to hunt down and kill another chimpanzee.[[/note]]


* Town Square in ''Pinball/TheTwilightZone'', where the citizens can be induced to panic and wreak havoc.

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---> As it is written: None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands, no one seeks God.
---> All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.
---> Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.
---> The venom of asps is under their lips. Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.
---> Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.

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---> As --->As it is written: None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands, no one seeks God.
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God.\\
All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.
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one.\\
Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.
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deceive.\\
The venom of asps is under their lips. Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.
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bitterness.\\
Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.


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* ''VideoGame/EndlingExtinctionIsForever'' depicts a world where red foxes are on the verge of extinction, thanks to humans completely destroying the environment through their greed.

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* "Hide in the Fairytale" by Theocracy evokes this trope, which is surprisingly dark given that they are Christian power metal band.


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* "Hide in the Fairytale" by Theocracy evokes this trope, which is surprisingly dark given that they are Christian power metal band.
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* "Hide in the Fairytale" by Theocracy evokes this trope, which is surprisingly dark given that they are Christian power metal band.
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* ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'': Though many evil characters in the story have the excuse of being corrupted or driven insane by [[ArtifactOfDoom Soul Edge]], Tira is actually Nightmare's PerkyFemaleMinion of her own volition. Raised as an assassin from birth and horrifically insane, she sees Nightmare as a kindred spirit and unlike [[TheStarcream Astaroth]], [[HeelFaceTurn Ivy]], [[UnwittingPawn Voldo]] and [[spoiler:[[ForcedIntoEvil Sophitia]]]], she is [[UndyingLoyalty genuinely and completely loyal]] to him.

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* ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'': Though many evil characters in the story have the excuse of being corrupted or driven insane by [[ArtifactOfDoom Soul Edge]], Tira is actually Nightmare's PerkyFemaleMinion of her own volition. Raised as an assassin from birth and horrifically insane, she sees Nightmare as a kindred spirit and unlike [[TheStarcream [[TheStarscream Astaroth]], [[HeelFaceTurn Ivy]], [[UnwittingPawn Voldo]] and [[spoiler:[[ForcedIntoEvil Sophitia]]]], she is [[UndyingLoyalty genuinely and completely loyal]] to him.
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* ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'': Though many evil characters in the story have the excuse of being corrupted or driven insane by [[ArtifactOfDoom Soul Edge]], Tira is actually Nightmare's PerkyFemaleMinion of her own volition. Raised as an assassin from birth and horrifically insane, she sees Nightmare as a kindred spirit and unlike [[TheStarcream Astaroth]], [[HeelFaceTurn Ivy]], [[UnwittingPawn Voldo]] and [[spoiler:[[ForcedIntoEvil Sophitia]]]], she is [[UndyingLoyalty genuinely and completely loyal]] to him.
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* George Orwell's ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' is this trope taken UpToEleven. The world was destroyed in a nuclear war and all that's left is three warring super-states all run by totalitarian governments who all seek to control every aspect of their citizens lives and completely eliminate love, freedom, happiness and rebellion as concepts in the human psyche, and if anyone anywhere shows any hint of these ideas, the government arrest them, torture them and MindRape them until they are an EmptyShell who only love the government, and then the government executes them and [[{{Unperson}} wipes out all memory of them]].

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* George Orwell's ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' is this trope taken UpToEleven.''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''. The world was destroyed in a nuclear war and all that's left is three warring super-states all run by totalitarian governments who all seek to control every aspect of their citizens lives and completely eliminate love, freedom, happiness and rebellion as concepts in the human psyche, and if anyone anywhere shows any hint of these ideas, the government arrest them, torture them and MindRape them until they are an EmptyShell who only love the government, and then the government executes them and [[{{Unperson}} wipes out all memory of them]].



* The Interim Coalition of Governance (the ruling government of humanity) from ''Literature/XeeleeSequence'' is this UpToEleven. They're like [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Oceania]], but with better technology and on an interstellar scale. They would make [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 the Imperium]] recoil in disgust. One of their worse atrocities is [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild they spent the lives]] of ''[[WeHaveReserves trillions]]'' of ChildSoldiers in a gamble to [[FinalSolution get rid of the Xeelee from their Galaxy]] and become the dominant lifeforms in the Universe.]] They are so [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenocidal]] they have exterminated many aliens for getting in their way and reduced those who surrendered to a [[FateWorseThanDeath fate worse then death]]. They commit countless atrocities not because of GodzillaThreshold or DirtyBusiness, they commit them [[spoiler: just so [[SoreLoser they can fill the wound made in their shattered egos made during the occupation from the Qax]].]] They are hypocrites and liars who turned the societies under their rule into a totalitarian CrapsackWorld to [[spoiler: make their [[ThePowerOfHate people suffer and channel their suffering and hate]] towards the [[TheFarmerAndTheViper Xeelee, who are trying to save them from the Photino Birds]].]] When the Coalition finally [[spoiler: drove the Xeelee out of the Milky Way]], [[spoiler: [[EvilVersusEvil they immediately fell into civil war]] before [[HistoryRepeats being unified by another tyrannical regime]] which also quickly collapsed]].

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* The Interim Coalition of Governance (the ruling government of humanity) from ''Literature/XeeleeSequence'' is this UpToEleven. They're like [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Oceania]], but with better technology and on an interstellar scale. They would make [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 the Imperium]] recoil in disgust. One of their worse atrocities is [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild they spent the lives]] of ''[[WeHaveReserves trillions]]'' of ChildSoldiers in a gamble to [[FinalSolution get rid of the Xeelee from their Galaxy]] and become the dominant lifeforms in the Universe.]] They are so [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenocidal]] they have exterminated many aliens for getting in their way and reduced those who surrendered to a [[FateWorseThanDeath fate worse then death]]. They commit countless atrocities not because of GodzillaThreshold or DirtyBusiness, they commit them [[spoiler: just so [[SoreLoser they can fill the wound made in their shattered egos made during the occupation from the Qax]].]] They are hypocrites and liars who turned the societies under their rule into a totalitarian CrapsackWorld to [[spoiler: make their [[ThePowerOfHate people suffer and channel their suffering and hate]] towards the [[TheFarmerAndTheViper Xeelee, who are trying to save them from the Photino Birds]].]] When the Coalition finally [[spoiler: drove the Xeelee out of the Milky Way]], [[spoiler: [[EvilVersusEvil they immediately fell into civil war]] before [[HistoryRepeats being unified by another tyrannical regime]] which also quickly collapsed]].



* Taken UpToEleven in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony,'' when is an actual reality show [[MetaSequel based off the now in-universe]] ''[[MetaSequel Danganronpa]]'' [[MetaSequel franchise]], and currently in its ''53rd season'' (or 50th, since it had to have started with ''Danganronpa 4'' at the earliest). The entire audience cares nothing about how everyone in the killing game felt, as they take pleasure in their misery.

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* Taken UpToEleven in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony,'' when which is an actual reality show [[MetaSequel based off the now in-universe]] ''[[MetaSequel Danganronpa]]'' [[MetaSequel franchise]], and currently in its ''53rd season'' (or 50th, since it had to have started with ''Danganronpa 4'' at the earliest). The entire audience cares nothing about how everyone in the killing game felt, as they take pleasure in their misery.



** SCP-5000 manages to bring '''this entire trope''' UpToEleven. [[spoiler: All human emotions, the good and the bad ''don't naturally originate in the brain.'' Instead, as the Foundation discovered, they're the product of some...[[EldritchAbomination thing]] that wormed its way into humanity's collective unconscious at some point in the past and altered the way our minds work. Yes, that's right. Human nature as we know it is simply the result of MindRape committed by this unknown and impossibly ancient entity for its goals, [[NothingIsScarier whatever the hell those might be]], and our natural state is as a race of [[EmptyShell empty shells lacking emotion]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil and empathy.]] The Foundation was so horrified by this discovery that they decided the only ethical thing to do was to wipe us out by unleashing ''every'' anomaly in their arsenal. And the man who [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to]] hit the ResetButton has now guaranteed that the entity can go on with whatever it's doing with it being unclear if it will be discovered in the new timeline.]]

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** SCP-5000 manages to bring '''this entire trope''' UpToEleven.SCP-5000. [[spoiler: All human emotions, the good and the bad ''don't naturally originate in the brain.'' Instead, as the Foundation discovered, they're the product of some...[[EldritchAbomination thing]] that wormed its way into humanity's collective unconscious at some point in the past and altered the way our minds work. Yes, that's right. Human nature as we know it is simply the result of MindRape committed by this unknown and impossibly ancient entity for its goals, [[NothingIsScarier whatever the hell those might be]], and our natural state is as a race of [[EmptyShell empty shells lacking emotion]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil and empathy.]] The Foundation was so horrified by this discovery that they decided the only ethical thing to do was to wipe us out by unleashing ''every'' anomaly in their arsenal. And the man who [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to]] hit the ResetButton has now guaranteed that the entity can go on with whatever it's doing with it being unclear if it will be discovered in the new timeline.]]
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* Master Xehanort of ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' has this attitude towards the people of the World. Something he went through in his youth, including a tour of the many smaller worlds, led him to believe that the light in people's hearts was a "total farce", that people were predisposed to being self-deluding weaklings that stole power from each other and led everything to ruin. He decided the only real solution was to [[spoiler:use Kingdom Hearts, the heart of everything, purge the current World of all false lights, return everything to the darkness whence it came, and create a new empty World.]] And he went about it by... [[{{Hypocrite}} stealing power from others, deluding himself into thinking he was truly strong, and leading everything to ruin.]]
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In essence Humans Are Bastards is the reverse of RousseauWasRight -- the natural proclivity of humanity is towards [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[BystanderSyndrome apathy]] and violence. Only a select few people manage to rise above their base nature to become something better, but the kernel of darkness is still InTheBlood. When Humans Are Bastards is in effect, even your "heroes" don't have clean hands, so most conflict is [[BlackAndGrayMorality gray against black]], with some [[GreyAndGrayMorality gray against gray]] or [[EvilVersusEvil black against black]] on for variety. Frequently used by [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]] as an argument in favor of a [[ApocalypseHow/Class3A Class 3a Apocalypse]].

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In essence essence, Humans Are Bastards is the reverse of RousseauWasRight -- the natural proclivity of humanity is towards [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[BystanderSyndrome apathy]] and violence. Only a select few people manage to rise above their base nature to become something better, but the kernel of darkness is still InTheBlood. When Humans Are Bastards is in effect, even your "heroes" don't have clean hands, so most conflict is [[BlackAndGrayMorality gray against black]], with some [[GreyAndGrayMorality gray against gray]] or [[EvilVersusEvil black against black]] on for variety. Frequently used by [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]] as an argument in favor of a [[ApocalypseHow/Class3A Class 3a Apocalypse]].
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** Also in ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur 4'', which features Angol Fear, Angol Mois' cousin who'd go on to appear in the Keroro manga later. Her story suggests the Angol race thinks HumansAreBastards, and possibly the reason they want to destroy Earth is to save the rest of the Universe from that corruption expanding; Ultimately, [[spoiler: Angol Fear observes that there are many innocent humans, and leaves it up to Angol Mois to decide whether to destroy Earth or not.]]

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** Also in ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur 4'', which features Angol Fear, Angol Mois' cousin who'd go on to appear in the Keroro manga later. Her story suggests the Angol race thinks HumansAreBastards, Humans Are Bastards, and possibly the reason they want to destroy Earth is to save the rest of the Universe from that corruption expanding; Ultimately, [[spoiler: Angol Fear observes that there are many innocent humans, and leaves it up to Angol Mois to decide whether to destroy Earth or not.]]
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* ''VideoGame/PeacemakerSeries'': Downplayed. While the Dark Ones distrust humans due to the genocide and thievery perpetrated by the human nations, they're willing to accept humans into their ranks as long as they worship the Dark Mother. Sanguine is also willing to acknowledge Bambooblade as being different from other light-aligned humans if he makes it through her tower without killing anyone, but she also believes that a few good humans don't outweigh the malice of the rest.
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* It's unclear how intentional it is but ''Webcomic/NineteenNinetySomething'' does not shy away from showing how so many of life's problems could be solved or outright avoided if people weren't such selfish bastards to one another. It's telling that the protagonists largely consist of a bunch of trouble making delinquents and are ''still'' among the most morally correct characters in the comic.
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* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': In Vol. 3 #155, Kyle Rayner decides to leaves Earth after being traumatized by the brutal hate crime inflicted on his young gay assistant Terry. Before he goes, he tells his then-girlfriend Jade (Jennifer-Lynn Hayden, daughter of the first Green Lantern) about his insights into the human psyche during his time as Ion (when he had achieved godhood and was nigh-omnipotent and nigh-omniscient) and what they revealed to him about the extent of man's inhumanity to man, which causes him to now view humanity with [[JadeColoredGlasses Jade-Colored Glasses]]:

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* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': In Vol. 3 #155, Kyle Rayner decides to leaves Earth after being traumatized by the brutal hate crime inflicted on his young gay assistant Terry. Before he goes, he tells his then-girlfriend Jade (Jennifer-Lynn Hayden, daughter of the first Green Lantern) about his insights into the human psyche during his time as Ion (when he had achieved godhood and was nigh-omnipotent and nigh-omniscient) and what they revealed to him about the extent of man's inhumanity to man, which causes him to now view humanity with [[JadeColoredGlasses Jade-Colored Glasses]]:JadeColoredGlasses:



* In one of the early ''Comicbook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' crossovers featuring the ''Comicbook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'', an alien called Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] plans to destroy both Earth-1 and Earth-2 in order to use the resulting energy to forge a new planet. When one of his underlings points out that this will kill billions of people, Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] argues that due to the human race's history of warfare, violence and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil slavery]], the universe will be better off without them.

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* In one of the early ''Comicbook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' crossovers featuring the ''Comicbook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'', ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'', an alien called Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] plans to destroy both Earth-1 and Earth-2 in order to use the resulting energy to forge a new planet. When one of his underlings points out that this will kill billions of people, Creator[--[[superscript:2]]--] argues that due to the human race's history of warfare, violence and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil slavery]], the universe will be better off without them.



** However, a number of comics indicate that plenty of humans are ''not'' bastards, it's just that the ones who are tend to be really prominent. Furthermore, ''ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen'' goes some way to explaining ''why'' mutants are so particularly feared and hated -- they're a direct replacement for humanity (something that, DependingOnTheWriter, they aren't shy about reminding humanity of). Many of them have god-like powers, and consider themselves apart from, if not above, humans. The fact that their usual binomial name, often chosen by the relatively moderate Charles Xavier, is ''Homo Superior'', doesn't hurt, either. Thus, while humanity's actions aren't necessarily right, they are at least understandable (though this does veer into GreyAndGreyMorality, with suggestions that both sides are as bad as each other).

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** However, a number of comics indicate that plenty of humans are ''not'' bastards, it's just that the ones who are tend to be really prominent. Furthermore, ''ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen'' ''ComicBook/XMen2019'' goes some way to explaining ''why'' mutants are so particularly feared and hated -- they're a direct replacement for humanity (something that, DependingOnTheWriter, they aren't shy about reminding humanity of). Many of them have god-like powers, and consider themselves apart from, if not above, humans. The fact that their usual binomial name, often chosen by the relatively moderate Charles Xavier, is ''Homo Superior'', doesn't hurt, either. Thus, while humanity's actions aren't necessarily right, they are at least understandable (though this does veer into GreyAndGreyMorality, with suggestions that both sides are as bad as each other).



* A CentralTheme in ''VideoGame/TheForgottenCity'', a quest mod for VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim. Even in a society where crime doesn't and cannot exist, the negative qualities of human nature don't just disappear. For instance, [[FantasticRacism if you are not an Imperial then you do not get to live in the luxurious Citadel]], and LoopholeAbuse is common as violence and theft are not permitted but gossip, intimidation, scams, doing drugs and [[spoiler:necromancy]] are all fair game under the Dwemer's BlueAndOrangeMorality. There's also [[spoiler:Jarl Metelleus, who keeps a woman captive and rapes her every night without breaking the Dwarves' Law because he's figured out how the law works, and when confronted coldly gloats to you that there isn't a thing you can do about it.]]

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* A CentralTheme in ''VideoGame/TheForgottenCity'', a quest mod for VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim.''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim''. Even in a society where crime doesn't and cannot exist, the negative qualities of human nature don't just disappear. For instance, [[FantasticRacism if you are not an Imperial then you do not get to live in the luxurious Citadel]], and LoopholeAbuse is common as violence and theft are not permitted but gossip, intimidation, scams, doing drugs and [[spoiler:necromancy]] are all fair game under the Dwemer's BlueAndOrangeMorality. There's also [[spoiler:Jarl Metelleus, who keeps a woman captive and rapes her every night without breaking the Dwarves' Law because he's figured out how the law works, and when confronted coldly gloats to you that there isn't a thing you can do about it.]]



* Taken [[UptoEleven Up to Eleven]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony,'' when is an actual reality show [[MetaSequel based off the now in-universe]] ''[[MetaSequel Danganronpa]]'' [[MetaSequel franchise]], and currently in its ''53rd season'' (or 50th, since it had to have started with ''Danganronpa 4'' at the earliest). The entire audience cares nothing about how everyone in the killing game felt, as they take pleasure in their misery.

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* Taken [[UptoEleven Up to Eleven]] UpToEleven in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony,'' when is an actual reality show [[MetaSequel based off the now in-universe]] ''[[MetaSequel Danganronpa]]'' [[MetaSequel franchise]], and currently in its ''53rd season'' (or 50th, since it had to have started with ''Danganronpa 4'' at the earliest). The entire audience cares nothing about how everyone in the killing game felt, as they take pleasure in their misery.

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** The [[VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPart2 sequel]] takes things even further with the infected being even further shoved into the background in favor of plot being driven by other survivors. Both protagonists commit various atrocities for selfish reasons and the two warring factions in Seattle ([[FullCircleRevolution The W.L.F.]] and [[ReligionOfEvil the Seraphites]]) being cruel and despotic regimes who are genocidal towards each other and attack anyone who isn’t one of them on sight. Needless to say the game paints an even bleaker picture of the post apocalypse than the first game.



* This is the reason why the Phantom Thieves of Hearts exist in ''VideoGame/Persona5''. Society is [[TheCaligula run by corrupt psychopaths who walk over anyone they can get their hands on]], bystanders and victims can't or won't struggle against their hardships, and it's shown to almost always end in tragic results. The Phantom Thieves turn to supernatural brainwashing to convict those in power, the government conspiracy pulls every dirty trick and commits mass-murder just to end them, and the whole city [[NeverMyFault is in denial of their problems]] and near-completely [[ApatheticCitizens apathetic]] [[spoiler:even after a ControlFreak god sends a storm of ''acid rain'' to randomly kill anyone on the street]].
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* In a lot of incarnations ComicBook/TheJoker holds this opinion (most famously in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''), maintaining that all it takes is "one bad day" to make anyone just as murderously insane as he is. In some cases it is implied that, deep down, he is outright ''disgusted'' with humanity and his murderous behaviour -- as well as his suicidal recklessness -- are violent acts of protest and despair at the world and not purely ForTheEvulz, with his battle with Batman being an ideological one over who is correct.

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* In a lot of incarnations ComicBook/TheJoker holds this opinion (most famously in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''), maintaining that all it takes is "one bad day" to make anyone just as murderously insane as he is. In some cases it is implied that, deep down, he is outright ''disgusted'' with humanity and his murderous behaviour -- as well as his suicidal recklessness -- are [[StrawNihilist violent acts of protest and despair at the world world]] and not purely ForTheEvulz, with his battle with Batman being an ideological one over who is correct.
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* In ''ComicBook/JusticeLeague2018'', Lex Luthor travels one million years into the future and learns that he's become a DarkMessiah, with [[BadFuture all of humanity following his philosophy]] of personal empowerment and embracing one's inner self [[BeingGoodSucks rather than aspiring to be something better]]. As a result, he created a VillainWorld where mankind embraced the worst aspects of human nature and [[GalacticConqueror subjugated the rest of the universe in his name]], [[CardCarryingVillain literally calling their way of life "Doom"]]. [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist To Lex, this was paradise.]]

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* In ''ComicBook/JusticeLeague2018'', Lex Luthor travels one million years into the future and learns that he's become a DarkMessiah, with [[BadFuture all of humanity following his philosophy]] of personal empowerment and embracing one's inner self [[BeingGoodSucks rather than aspiring to be something better]]. As a result, he created a VillainWorld where mankind embraced the worst aspects of human nature and [[GalacticConqueror subjugated the rest of the universe in his name]], [[CardCarryingVillain literally calling their way of life "Doom"]]. [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist To Lex, this was paradise.]] [[spoiler:However in ''ComicBook/DoomsdayClock'', [[PhysicalGod Dr. Manhattan]] forsees that in a thousand years [[TimeyWimeyBall this timeline will be overwritten]] by one in which [[HopeBringer mankind finally embraces the ways of Superman]], [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism circling back]] to HumansAreFlawed.]]
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* * ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' zig-zags this. [[Creator/NaughtyDog The developers]] have gone on record as saying that the primary antagonists are other survivors, as opposed to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Infected]]. Sure enough, a lot of the worst actions in the story are carried out by humans, who are shown to be more than willing to slaughter one another without provocation to get what they want. The first game even features a group of cannibals [[spoiler:with a leader who likes to... [[{{Ephebophile}} erm, keep 'pets']]]] as an antagonistic force at one point. Despite this, though, there are humans out there who are only really interested in keeping to themselves and trying to make the best out of the CrapsackWorld they live in, such as the residents of Jackson, Wyoming, who have formed a self-sufficient community and only turn violent towards outside intruders ([[ProperlyParanoid although in a world like this, you can hardly blame them]]).

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* * ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' zig-zags this. [[Creator/NaughtyDog The developers]] have gone on record as saying that the primary antagonists are other survivors, as opposed to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Infected]]. Sure enough, a lot of the worst actions in the story are carried out by humans, who are shown to be more than willing to slaughter one another without provocation to get what they want. The first game even features a group of cannibals [[spoiler:with a leader who likes to... [[{{Ephebophile}} erm, keep 'pets']]]] as an antagonistic force at one point. Despite this, though, there are humans out there who are only really interested in keeping to themselves and trying to make the best out of the CrapsackWorld they live in, such as the residents of Jackson, Wyoming, who have formed a self-sufficient community and only turn violent towards outside intruders ([[ProperlyParanoid although in a world like this, you can hardly blame them]]).
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* * ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' zig-zags this. [[Creator/NaughtyDog The developers]] have gone on record as saying that the primary antagonists are other survivors, as opposed to the [[TechnicallyLivingZombie Infected]]. Sure enough, a lot of the worst actions in the story are carried out by humans, who are shown to be more than willing to slaughter one another without provocation to get what they want. The first game even features a group of cannibals [[spoiler:with a leader who likes to... [[{{Ephebophile}} erm, keep 'pets']]]] as an antagonistic force at one point. Despite this, though, there are humans out there who are only really interested in keeping to themselves and trying to make the best out of the CrapsackWorld they live in, such as the residents of Jackson, Wyoming, who have formed a self-sufficient community and only turn violent towards outside intruders ([[ProperlyParanoid although in a world like this, you can hardly blame them]]).

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