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* NotSoDifferent: The Americans and Vietnamese are ultimately not so different from each other. See [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black And Gray Morality]]. There's also the Filipinos and the French settlers. One theme of the book seems to be that humans have more in common with each other than they assume.
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The closest thing to a "hero" the book has is Colonel Sands, a [[BadassGrandpa retired war hero]] who leads an operation in Vietnam with the help of the CIA. A bit [[CloudCuckoolander zany]] in his antics, although trust us when we say he's one of the most sane characters in the entire book.
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The closest thing to a "hero" the book has is Colonel Sands, a [[BadassGrandpa retired war hero]] hero who leads an operation in Vietnam with the help of the CIA. A bit [[CloudCuckoolander zany]] in his antics, although trust us when we say he's one of the most sane characters in the entire book.
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* {{Surrealism}}: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
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* {{Surrealism}}: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
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* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.
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* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.passages.
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Due to its slow pacing, penchant for [[SeinfeldianConversation low-key dialogue]], and [[SurrealHorror horrifically dreamlike]] atmosphere, the book has become known for being [[LoveItOrHateIt somewhat divisive]] among readers. There's no single protagonist (although there are several related plot threads), the protagonists are [[AntiHero deeply flawed]] at best and [[BlueAndOrangeMorality downright bizarre]] in their actions and motives at times.
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Due to its slow pacing, penchant for [[SeinfeldianConversation low-key dialogue]], and [[SurrealHorror horrifically dreamlike]] atmosphere, the book has become known for being [[LoveItOrHateIt somewhat divisive]] divisive among readers. There's no single protagonist (although there are several related plot threads), the protagonists are [[AntiHero deeply flawed]] at best and [[BlueAndOrangeMorality downright bizarre]] in their actions and motives at times.
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* {{Existentialism}}: Discussions about God and the free will of Man come up quite a bit, not to mention the notion of nature absorbing mankind.
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Think ''Literature/{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
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Think ''Literature/{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
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* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II]], and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.
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* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II]], UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.
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''Tree of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[DoorStopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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''Tree of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[DoorStopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[DoorStopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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''Tree Of of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[DoorStopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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!!''Tree Of Smoke'' contains examples of the following tropes:
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!!''Tree Of of Smoke'' contains examples of the following tropes:
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Think ''{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
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Think ''{{Ulysses}}'' ''Literature/{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
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* FreudWasRight: "James dreamt of firefights: shooting useless bullets out of an impotent gun."
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* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.
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* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.
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* Skewed Priorities: [[SarcasmMode Remember kids]], when you're in the middle of a war zone it's best to get drunk as possible and as often as possible.
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* Skewed Priorities: SkewedPriorities: [[SarcasmMode Remember kids]], when you're in the middle of a war zone it's best to get drunk as possible and as often as possible.
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* Existentialism: Discussions about God and the free will of Man come up quite a bit, not to mention the notion of nature absorbing mankind.
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* Existentialism: {{Existentialism}}: Discussions about God and the free will of Man come up quite a bit, not to mention the notion of nature absorbing mankind.
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*AnArmAndALeg: There's a soldier with a leg that got blown off, using crutches to get around.
* BlackComedy: Some of the soldiers' antics are this with a healthy dose of [[MindScrew Mind Screw]].
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* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II], and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.
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* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II], II]], and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.subordinates.
* DoorStopper: About 700 pages long, depending on the edition.
* {{Eagleland}}: Definitely a mixture of both types. Skip Sands and the colonel are Type 1, at least at first, while many of the American soldiers are more Type 2.
* Existentialism: Discussions about God and the free will of Man come up quite a bit, not to mention the notion of nature absorbing mankind.
* DoorStopper: About 700 pages long, depending on the edition.
* {{Eagleland}}: Definitely a mixture of both types. Skip Sands and the colonel are Type 1, at least at first, while many of the American soldiers are more Type 2.
* Existentialism: Discussions about God and the free will of Man come up quite a bit, not to mention the notion of nature absorbing mankind.
* MindScrew: When shit gets weird, it gets ''really'' weird. Though considering how James and other characters are either drunk or high (or both) a lot of the time, this isn't too surprising.
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** If you didn't know about the effects of [[Gorn white phosphorous]] before, you sure do now.
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** If you didn't know about the effects of [[Gorn [[{{Gorn}} white phosphorous]] before, you sure do now.now.
* Skewed Priorities: [[SarcasmMode Remember kids]], when you're in the middle of a war zone it's best to get drunk as possible and as often as possible.
* Skewed Priorities: [[SarcasmMode Remember kids]], when you're in the middle of a war zone it's best to get drunk as possible and as often as possible.
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* NotSoDifferent: The Americans and Vietnamese are ultimately not so different from each other. See [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black And Gray Morality]]. There's also the Filipinos and the French settlers.
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* SurrealHorror: On top of all the violence and symbolism, some things simply do not make much sense when taken at face value, but that doesn't make them any less unnerving.
* NotSoDifferent: The Americans and Vietnamese are ultimately not so different from each other. See [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black And Gray Morality]]. There's also the Filipinos and the French settlers. One theme of the book seems to be that humans have more in common with each other than they assume.
* NotSoDifferent: The Americans and Vietnamese are ultimately not so different from each other. See [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black And Gray Morality]]. There's also the Filipinos and the French settlers. One theme of the book seems to be that humans have more in common with each other than they assume.
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* AnyoneCanDie: And die they do. Horribly.
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* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Innocence which is then [BreakTheCutie utterly crushed]], particularly in Kathy Jones's plot thread.
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* BornLucky: Those who accompany him see Colonel Sands as invincible to an almost-supernatural degree.
* CloudCuckoolander: Sometimes [[PlayedForLaughs Played For Laughs]], other times for [[SurrealHorror Surreal Horror]].
* ColonelKilgore: Sergeant Harmon can come across as this.
* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II], and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.
* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Innocence which is then[BreakTheCutie [[BreakTheCutie utterly crushed]], particularly in Kathy Jones's plot thread.thread.
* FreudWasRight: "James dreamt of firefights: shooting useless bullets out of an impotent gun."
* NightmareFuel: Once our heroes enter Vietnam, things get ''very'' ugly.
** If you didn't know about the effects of [[Gorn white phosphorous]] before, you sure do now.
* CloudCuckoolander: Sometimes [[PlayedForLaughs Played For Laughs]], other times for [[SurrealHorror Surreal Horror]].
* ColonelKilgore: Sergeant Harmon can come across as this.
* CoolOldGuy: Colonel Sands served in [[WorldWarII World War II], and despite now being a civilian is practically worshiped by his subordinates.
* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Innocence which is then
* FreudWasRight: "James dreamt of firefights: shooting useless bullets out of an impotent gun."
* NightmareFuel: Once our heroes enter Vietnam, things get ''very'' ugly.
** If you didn't know about the effects of [[Gorn white phosphorous]] before, you sure do now.
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* Surrealism: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
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* Surrealism: NotSoDifferent: The Americans and Vietnamese are ultimately not so different from each other. See [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black And Gray Morality]]. There's also the Filipinos and the French settlers.
* {{Surrealism}}: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
* {{Surrealism}}: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
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''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper [[DoorStopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
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Think ''{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
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!!''Tree Of Smoke'' contains examples of the following tropes:
* AntiHero: '''Oh yes.''' In an ensemble of troubled protagonists, though, James Houston takes the cake. The Houston family as a whole is [[DysfunctionJunction pretty messed up]], really.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: And it's a fairly dark shade of gray.
* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Innocence which is then [BreakTheCutie utterly crushed]], particularly in Kathy Jones's plot thread.
* SociopathicSoldier: Quite a few of them, it seems.
* Surrealism: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.
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!!''Tree Of Smoke'' contains examples of the following tropes:
* AntiHero: '''Oh yes.''' In an ensemble of troubled protagonists, though, James Houston takes the cake. The Houston family as a whole is [[DysfunctionJunction pretty messed up]], really.
* BlackAndGrayMorality: And it's a fairly dark shade of gray.
* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Innocence which is then [BreakTheCutie utterly crushed]], particularly in Kathy Jones's plot thread.
* SociopathicSoldier: Quite a few of them, it seems.
* Surrealism: Much like ''Literatue/TheThingsTheyCarried'', this is a modern example of surrealist literature, although it does come back to Earth every now and again.
* WorldOfSymbolism: Present throughout, but becomes more apparent in trippy passages.
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''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. One could argue that ''Tree Of Smoke'' is the ''Ulysses'' of war novels.
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''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. One could argue that ''Tree Of Smoke'' Despite being advertised as an epic novel about [[TheVietnamWar The Vietnam War]], Johnson's work is about a lot more than just that.
Due to its slow pacing, penchant for [[SeinfeldianConversation low-key dialogue]], and [[SurrealHorror horrifically dreamlike]] atmosphere, the''Ulysses'' of book has become known for being [[LoveItOrHateIt somewhat divisive]] among readers. There's no single protagonist (although there are several related plot threads), the protagonists are [[AntiHero deeply flawed]] at best and [[BlueAndOrangeMorality downright bizarre]] in their actions and motives at times.
The closest thing to a "hero" the book has is Colonel Sands, a [[BadassGrandpa retired warnovels.hero]] who leads an operation in Vietnam with the help of the CIA. A bit [[CloudCuckoolander zany]] in his antics, although trust us when we say he's one of the most sane characters in the entire book.
Think ''{{Ulysses}}'' [[XMeetsY meets]] ''Literature/TheThingsTheyCarried''.
Due to its slow pacing, penchant for [[SeinfeldianConversation low-key dialogue]], and [[SurrealHorror horrifically dreamlike]] atmosphere, the
The closest thing to a "hero" the book has is Colonel Sands, a [[BadassGrandpa retired war
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-> ''"Young men, while you live," he told them, "find out how to wake up from this nightmare."''
''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. One could argue that ''Tree Of Smoke'' is the ''Ulysses'' of war novels.
''Tree Of Smoke'' is an [[MindScrew esoteric]] war novel written by Denis Johnson and first published in 2007, winning the National Book Award for Fiction. It is [[Doorstopper very long]], [[NightmareFuel very nightmarish]], and almost [[RuleOfSymbolism too metaphysical]] for its own good. One could argue that ''Tree Of Smoke'' is the ''Ulysses'' of war novels.