History CreatorsPet / TabletopGames

* Elminster from ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. For the crowd that is not into roleplaying: Think about what would happen if Gandalf was the main character of ''Lord of the Rings'' and the story consisted of him beating up anything that is a bother and boning the goddess of magic whose boobs are totally big and rad to the max.

** Synchros and Tuners are (albeit less commonly) hated by fans for similar reasons - they utterly dominate the plot and duels of 5Ds, Konami dedicates an average of three-quarters of a set to them, but unlike the E-Heroes, the majority of Synchros * cough* Dark Strike Fighter * cough* are on par with ''[[GameBreaker effin' Chaos]]'', which either [[StopHavingFunGuy totally redeems them]] or [[{{Scrub}} makes them glaringly worse]], depending on which side of the BrokenBase you are on.

** When Monte Cook's around, Wizards and other casters usually become major [[GameBreaker GameBreakers]]. It reached its peak in the 5E playtest, in which Cook left before it went public, possibly due to bad feedback from fans of the other classes.

* [[OurElvesAreBetter Elves]] in general seem to have slowly turned into this trope over time for [[YourMileageMayVary large portions]] of the fantasy roleplaying fanbase, regardless of the system or setting in question. BrokenBase doesn't even begin to cover it. People either love them to death or think they're an entire race of Creator's Pets, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground, with each side thinking the other is FanDumb personified. Drow in particular suffer from this trope in a bad way, not the least of which because of the exploits of a [[ForgottenRealms certain scimitar-wielding fellow]] and his legions of fanboys. It's telling that the trend in modern fantasy games/settings leans much more toward [[OurElvesAreDifferent Our Elves Are Worse]].

* In ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', there is a bet every new set: "Which new strategy will be so imbalanced that players will [[{{scrub}} bitch about how unfair it is]] and [[XPacHeat blame Mark Rosewater]]?" In the case of infect, Rosewater took blame because he loved poison counters so much.

*** And then there are the {{Ultramarines}}, the Space Marines to the Space Marines. [[RunningTheAsylum Thanks to letting an enormous Ultramarines fanboy do the writing]], the Ultramarines have dominated the current Space Marine codex. Twenty-nine other Space Marine chapters are mentioned in the rulebook's background, and get a picture of their uniform and a paragraph or two of description - the rest of the book is all about the wonderful Ultramarines. The "Histories" and "Battles" sections of the book are devoted to the Ultramarines' exploits, while any other chapters get lumped into a comparatively brief seven-page section. Of the twenty-one pages of miniatures galleries, only two of them do ''not'' feature any Ultramarines. Of the special characters listed, half are from the Ultramarines, and half of those had not appeared in any previous edition. The Codex insists that even other First Founding legions, with their own traditions and proud histories, all aspire to emulate the example set by the Ultramarines. It even divides Space Marines into three categories: the Ultramarines and their successors, Space Marines from other gene-stock that ''try'' to be Ultramarines but can't due to their defective blood, and "aberrant" chapters who will eventually diminish in importance. Interestingly, before this the Ultramarines were considered kinda bland by many players, a generic by-the-book sort of chapter; now they have a massive {{hatedom}} and even long-term Ultramarines fans are annoyed by how much their army's being overhyped.

** The newest GreyKnights codex - which was incidentally written by the same author as the latest Space Marine codex - introduced [[CanonSue Lord Kaldor Draigo]], who managed to one-up the Ultramarines through the sheer, over-the-top Sueishness of his accomplishments, which includes but it not limited to: surviving an endless walk through Hell, banishing a Daemon Prince in his first combat action, defeating a Daemon Primarch and vandalizing its still-beating heart, killing a Bloodthirster all but bare-handedly before stealing its unholy axe and reforging it into a sword with the power of his mind, and rampaging through the Chaos Gods' private demesnes without consequence.

* The [[SkeleBot9000 Necrons]] of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' have proven problematic for some fans. When the army got its proper launch during 3rd Edition, with a codex positing that the Necrons' [[EldritchAbomination undying C'tan masters]] were essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe, secretly worshiped by a pivotal faction of the Imperium, ''and'' responsible for the rise of [[UltimateEvil Chaos]], many fans complained that these {{Terminator}} knock-offs had usurped Chaos as the setting's BigBad. The 5th Edition codex has attempted to rectify this by drastically reducing the C'tan's presence in the background, specifically with a {{retcon}} describing how they were [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters betrayed]] and [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] [[TakeThatScrappy by the Necrons]]. The book also assures readers that many Necron Lords have gone insane over the eons and enjoy delusions of godhood, and points out that what little the Imperium knows about the Necrons [[ArmedWithCanon are mostly half-truths, lies, or flat-out wrong]]. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some fans are now complaining about the changes]].
** But ''40k''s oldest Creators' Pets have always been the Space Marines themselves. As ''{{Warhammer 40000}}''[='s=] mascot characters, the Space Marines get the most exposure and the most updates, while [[PowerCreepPowerSeep Codex Creep]] ensures that they remain a potent force on the tabletop. In the setting's narrative, Space Marines are so awesome that they've been awarded the "moral victory" even when they ''failed'' a campaign's objectives. Roughly half of ''40k'''s armies are some variant of guys in {{power armor}}, and Space Marine merchandise sells more than all the other factions ''combined''.

**** Ward's irritating hype aside, at least some of the hate for Ultramarines qualifies as HateDumb, given that, as a percentage, they actually occupy ''less'' of the current codex than they did the previous one. Also, the previous Codex had ''two'' non-Ultramarines characters (out of seven), where as the current one has five (out of eleven).

* [[TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression Genius: The Transgression]]: Referenced.

* The [[SkeleBot9000 Necrons]] of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' have proven problematic for some fans. When the army got its proper launch during 3rd Edition, with a codex positing that the Necrons' [[EldritchAbomination undying C'tan masters]] were essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe, secretly worshiped by a pivotal faction of the Imperium, ''and'' responsible for the rise of [[UltimateEvil Chaos]], many fans complained that these {{Terminator}} knock-offs had usurped Chaos as the setting's BigBad. The recent 5th Edition codex has attempted to rectify this by drastically reducing the C'tan's presence in the background, specifically with a {{retcon}} describing how they were [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters betrayed]] and [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] [[TakeThatScrappy by the Necrons]]. The book also assures readers that many Necron Lords have gone insane over the eons and enjoy delusions of godhood, and points out that what little the Imperium knows about the Necrons [[ArmedWithCanon are mostly half-truths, lies, or flat-out wrong]]. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some fans are now complaining about the changes]].

* It's commonly accepted fact that DMs tend to create characters that they love. Part of this is simply because making and playing RPG characters is fun and D.M.s often don't get to do so themselves beyond their NPCs. This is especially true in gaming groups where one person is always called upon to run every campaign. These characters tend to be unique, interesting and far better fleshed out than the DMs other NPCs. They can be expected to show up a lot, spend a lot of time with the party and (if the DM feels like it) be vastly better than them. More than one player has tried to kill a CreatorsPet character just to stick it to the DM.

* It's commonly accepted fact that DMs tend to create characters that they love. Part of this is simply because making and playing RPG characters is fun and DMs often don't get to do so themselves beyond their NPCs. This is especially true in gaming groups where one person is always called upon to run every campaign. These characters tend to be unique, interesting and far better fleshed out than the DMs other NPCs. They can be expected to show up a lot, spend a lot of time with the party and (if the DM feels like it) be vastly better than them. More than one player has tried to kill a CreatorPet character just to stick it to the DM.

* Elminster from ''DungeonsAndDragons''. For the crowd that is not into roleplaying: Think about what would happen if Gandalf was the main character of ''Lord of the Rings'' and the story consisted of him beating up anything that is a bother and boning the goddess of magic whose boobs are totally big and rad to the max.
* The [[SkeleBot9000 Necrons]] of ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' have proven problematic for some fans. When the army got its proper launch during 3rd Edition, with a codex positing that the Necrons' [[EldritchAbomination undying C'tan masters]] were essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe, secretly worshiped by a pivotal faction of the Imperium, ''and'' responsible for the rise of [[UltimateEvil Chaos]], many fans complained that these {{Terminator}} knock-offs had usurped Chaos as the setting's BigBad. The recent 5th Edition codex has attempted to rectify this by drastically reducing the C'tan's presence in the background, specifically with a {{retcon}} describing how they were [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters betrayed]] and [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] [[TakeThatScrappy by the Necrons]]. The book also assures readers that many Necron Lords have gone insane over the eons and enjoy delusions of godhood, and points out that what little the Imperium knows about the Necrons [[ArmedWithCanon are mostly half-truths, lies, or flat-out wrong]]. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some fans are now complaining about the changes]].

* The old WorldOfDarkness setting had Samuel Haight, arguably the worst VillainSue ever published in all of pen & paper roleplaying. The writers just kept giving him more and more rule-breaking, crossover powers[[hottip:*:Sam was a ghoul, a skin dancer, a true mage who didn't suffer paradox, and the owner of a sword that let him steal even more powers]] and kept instructing [=GMs=] to ensure he lives for another adventure before they finally clued into the massive {{Hatedom}} he had accumulated and [[AuthorsSavingThrow killed him off brutally]]. (Then, ''in the afterlife,'' he was turned into a (still sentient) ashtray.)
* In ''MagicTheGathering'', there is a bet every new set: "Which new strategy will be so imbalanced that players will [[{{scrub}} bitch about how unfair it is]] and [[XPacHeat blame Mark Rosewater]]?" In the case of infect, Rosewater took blame because he loved poison counters so much.

** The Tau were introduced as a young, idealistic race undergoing a rapid expansion without major setbacks, thanks in part to their sleek, advanced technology and {{animesque}} battlesuits. Needless to say many fans felt they clashed badly with the archaic and gothic tone of the rest of the setting, and accused Games Workshop of introducing them to lure anime fans into the hobby. But the Tau's second codex "darkened" the faction somewhat so that they felt less like the [[TheFederation United Federation of Planets]] are more like an [[{{Dystopia}} Orwellian police state]], and revealed that the Tau's optimistic society was being stressed by the [[CrapsackWorld harsh realities of the setting]] (to say nothing of the predations of their neighbors). As such, most fans have declared the Tau RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap and accept them as a legitimate part of the ''40k'' universe.

* The folks writing for the early editions of ''{{Shadowrun}}'' must've ''really'' gone bananas over the idea of "immortal elves", because those spotlight-hogging weedeaters were handed the keys to the game's metaplot waaaaay too often.
** [[OurElvesAreBetter Elves]] in general seem to have slowly turned into this trope over time for [[YourMileageMayVary large portions]] of the fantasy roleplaying fanbase, regardless of the system or setting in question. BrokenBase doesn't even begin to cover it. People either love them to death or think they're an entire race of Creator's Pets, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground, with each side thinking the other is FanDumb personified. Drow in particular suffer from this trope in a bad way, not the least of which because of the exploits of a [[ForgottenRealms certain scimitar-wielding fellow]] and his legions of fanboys. It's telling that the trend in modern fantasy games/settings leans much more toward [[OurElvesAreDifferent Our Elves Are Worse]].

* The [[SkeleBot9000 Necrons]] of ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' have proven problematic for some fans. When the army got its proper launch during 3rd Edition, with a codex positing that the Necrons' [[EldritchAbomination undying C'tan masters]] were essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe, secretly worshiped by a pivotal faction of the Imperium, ''and'' responsible for the rise of [[UltimateEvil Chaos]], many fans complained that these {{Terminator}} knock-offs had usurped Chaos as the setting's BigBad. The recent 5th Edition codex has attempted to rectify this by drastically reducing the C'tan's presence in the background, assuring readers that many Necron Lords have gone insane over the eons and enjoy delusions of godhood, and noting that what little the Imperium knows about the Necrons are mostly half-truths, lies, or flat-out wrong. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some fans are now complaining about the changes]].
** Regarding the C'tan though, the new Codex Retcons them into [[TakeThatScrappy being defeated and]] [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] [[TakeThatScrappy by the Necrons.]]

** But ''40k''s oldest Creators' Pets have always been the Space Marines themselves. As ''{{Warhammer 40000}}''s mascot characters, the Space Marines get the most exposure and the most updates, while [[PowerCreepPowerSeep Codex Creep]] ensures that they remain a potent force on the tabletop. In the setting's narrative, Space Marines are so awesome that they're awarded the "moral victory" even when they ''fail'' a campaign's objectives. Roughly half of ''40k'''s armies are some variant of guys in {{power armor}}, and Space Marine merchandise sells more than all the other factions ''combined''.
*** And then there are the {{Ultramarines}}, the Space Marines to the Space Marines. [[RunningTheAsylum Thanks to letting an enormous Ultramarines fanboy do the writing]], the Ultramarines have dominated the current Space Marine codex. 29 other Space Marine chapters are mentioned in the rulebook's background, and get a picture of their uniform and a paragraph or two of summation - the rest of the book is all about the wonderful Ultramarines. The "Histories" and "Battles" sections of the book are devoted to the Ultramarines, while any other chapters get lumped into a seven-page section. Of the 21 pages of miniatures galleries, only two of them do not feature any Ultramarines. Of the special characters listed, half are from the Ultramarines. The Codex insists that even other First Founding legions, with their own traditions and proud histories, all aspire to emulate the example set by the Ultramarines. It even divides Space Marines into three categories: the Ultramarines and their successors, Space Marines from other gene-stock that try to be Ultramarines but can't due to their defective blood, and aberrant chapters who will eventually diminish in importance. Interestingly, before this the Ultramarines were considered kinda bland by many players, a generic by-the-book sort of chapter; now they have a massive {{hatedom}} and even long-term Ultramarines fans are annoyed by how much their army's being overhyped.
** The newest GreyKnights codex - which was incidentally written by the same author as the latest Space Marine codex - introduced [[CanonSue Lord Kaldor Draigo]], who managed to one-up the Ultramarines through the sheer, over-the-top Sueishness of his accomplishments, which includes but it not limited to surviving an endless walk through Hell, killing a Daemon Prince in his first combat action, defeating a Daemon Primarch and vandalizing its still-beating heart, killing a Bloodthirster all but bare-handedly before stealing its unholy axe and reforging it into a sword with the power of his mind, and rampaging through the Chaos Gods' private demesnes without consequence.

* Some ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' fans think that the sudden elevation of the [[EldritchAbomination Necrons]] and their undying C'tan masters to essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe - responsible even for Chaos, the force intrinsically opposed to the Necrons and the traditional BigBad of the setting - was an entire ''race'' of Creator's Pets. The insinuation that the C'tan secretly rule a large part of the Imperium and are worshipped by a smaller but incredibly critical part has not helped this any.
** The new 5th Edition rules seem to be trying to rectify this, pointing out that the long hibernation coupled with the constant repairs to their bodies have turned many of them into mindless procedure-following automatons, and most Lords are so completely insane they think themselves immortal gods and build grand powerful bodies for them to inhabit and wage war with. Whether this removes the [[EldritchAbomination C'tan]] from the fluff completely is uncertain at this point, but it appears Chaos is back as BigBad ''numero uno''.
** The Tau could be considered another example of this trope. When they were first introduced they were young idealists with shiny new technology and anime-inspired mecha, needless to say many fans thought this didn't at all fit with the tone of the universe. The fact that they then continued to prosper and expand significantly whilst suffering no major set-backs in conflict with the other factions only served to reinforce the fans' belief that Games Workshop had only introduced them to lure in young anime fans. With the release of their second Codex, however, they were 'darkened' appropriately and made to seem less like a United Federation of Planets-esque utopia and more like an Orwellian police-state. Most fans have now come to [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap accept the Tau]] as a legitimate part of the ''40k'' universe.
*** The lesson seems to be that in the messed-up CrapsackWorld of ''40k'', ItsPopularNowItSucks.
** Now there's the original Space Marines themselves, and the Ultramarines in particular. [[PowerCreepPowerSeep Codex Creep]] has made them more powerful on the tabletop, and for some reason the [[FanNickname Ultrasmurfs]] keep getting more hero units, more exposure and [[BoringInvincibleHero never seem to lose]]. It was even worse in the last edition; almost ''every single picture'' in the previous Codex was of the Ultramarines, with only a few pages to show that other chapters actually existed. The Space Wolves are being accused of even ''more'' Codex Creep, especially with one particular psychic power that's just [[GameBreaker begging for errata]], but... they're [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Viking werewolf space marines]], we just can't manifest the hate.
*** While we're at it: the Commander kit comes with six pauldron options. One blank, one with scroll-and-circle-for-insignia, one with a skull-faced eagle, one with a Crux Terminatus, one for the Deathwatch...''guess which chapter insignia was on the sixth''. (The Dark Angels were the only other chapter to get a reference in said kit, and that took the form of an unbelievably tiny little winged sword badge that was almost impossible to get off the sprue without surgical equipment.)
**** To be fair, the Dark Angels rule GW. Go to any 40k/Hobby store. Any one. You ''WILL'' find a Dark Angels fan. Also, they tend to be the only ones to actually succeed in their campaigns, due to the more experienced players using them.
*** A better explanation behind how much of a Creator's Pet the Ultrasmurfs are: In most codexes, the armies get a sweeping generalization through most of the codex, and individual armies get a one paragraph summation regarding their basic structure. There are 30 chapters within the basic Space Marine codex. 29 of them have the one paragraph summation and a picture of a basic Space Marine. The entirety of the rest of the codex is dedicated specifically to the Ultrasmurfs. All of the stories involved in other codexes are usually battles that involve a lot of armies fighting together, and prevailing. There is precisely one chapter that gets referenced at all in the stories, and that's the Ultrasmurfs and the Ultrasmurfs only. It's no wonder that they're annoying the players with how much they get pushed.
**** They even summed up the type of Chapters in three groups, Ultramarines and chapters they made, Chapters than want to be Ultramarines and Chapters that don't (but should)
**** Ultras are a weird example of this trope: the chapter itself was once considered fairly bland, and most of the fans were indifferent to them. Then the Space Marines got a book written by a guy who absolutely loves them, and who inserted all the superlative descriptions of how awesome they are and wrote about about how no other chapter's marines can ever be as good as the Ultras, which annoyed people who play other chapters or have created their own, and stoked the fan hate.
**** Although, with the release of the new GreyKnights codex (who are basically ThePaladin RecycledINSPACE!) introduces us to [[CanonSue Lord Kaldor Draigo]]. He has the honor of being a single character widely considered to one up even the Ultramarine's fluff in over the top Sueishness. A detailed explanation of why can be found [[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kaldor_Draigo here.]]
**** It's worth noting that the Ultramarines and the Grey Knights being turned into a Creator's Pet is often laid at the feet of writer Matthew Ward. Whenever someone at Games Workshop or Black Library tries to tone it down, Ward in turn retcons it.

**** It's worth noting that the Ultramarines and the Grey Knights being turned into a Creator's Pet can both be laid at the feet of writer Matthew Ward. Whenever someone at Games Workshop or Black Library tries to tone it down, Ward in turn retcons it.

***** Actually, the blame for the Ultramarines and Grey Knights being placed on Matt Ward is CommonKnowledge rather than true. The original "Space Marines" codex was literally called Ultramarines. It was their codex and chapters like the Saladmanders, Imperial Fists, etc were only Ultramarines painted in different colors. The Grey Knights in the original Daemon Hunters codex (which was not written by Ward) were even more ridiculously overpowered lore and gameplay wise than Ward made them out to be. The original codex basically said any other Space Marine compared to a Grey Knight might as well be an Imperial Guard (a usually poorly trained soldier that is generally inferior to most other units). Ward's poor writing may have highlighted the issue, but it was always there.

* In Warhammer fantasy battles the Blackorc Warboss Grimgor Ironhide is hated by a large part of the fandom for replacing a black orc considered to be better thought through, the writers likes him enough to let him defeat Archaon, another badass character, and thus save the world by being badass.

*** The lesson seems to be that in the messed-up CrapsackWorld of ''40k'', [=~It's Popular, Now it Sucks~=].

* [=~Genius:The Transgression~=]: Referenced.

**** Although, with the release of the new GreyKnights codex (who are basically ThePaladin RecycledINSPACE!) introduces us to [[CanonSue Lord Kaldor Draigo]]. He has the honor of being a single character widely considered to one up even the Ultramarine's fluff in over the top sueishness. A detailed explanation of why can be found [[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kaldor_Draigo here.]]

* In ''MagicTheGathering'', there is a bet every new set: "Which new strategy will be so imbalanced that players will [[{{scrub}} bitch about how unfair it is]] and [[XPacHeat blame Mark Rosewater]]?" In the case of infect, Rosewater took blame because he loved poison counters so much.

* In the ''Living Death'' campaign the character of Jason Lindaman was supposed to be a super-intelligent, CrazyPrepared investigator who was taken out by the enemy before the [=PCs=] arrived. Because the [=PCs'=] only real interaction with him was after something heinous that took all four to six of them to handle had physically or emotionally crippled him, many players considered him a joke and / or incompetent to the point that they wished for his death.

* Some ''{{Warhammer 40000}}'' fans think that the sudden elevation of the [[EldritchAbomination Necrons]] and their undying C'tan masters to essentially the prime source of all evil in the universe - responsible even for Chaos, the force intrinsically opposed to the Necrons and the traditional BigBad of the setting - was an entire ''race'' of Wesleys. The insinuation that the C'tan secretly rule a large part of the Imperium and are worshipped by a smaller but incredibly critical part has not helped this any.

*** A better explanation behind how much of the Wesley the Ultrasmurfs are: In most codexes, the armies get a sweeping generalization through most of the codex, and individual armies get a one paragraph summation regarding their basic structure. There are 30 chapters within the basic Space Marine codex. 29 of them have the one paragraph summation and a picture of a basic Space Marine. The entirety of the rest of the codex is dedicated specifically to the Ultrasmurfs. All of the stories involved in other codexes are usually battles that involve a lot of armies fighting together, and prevailing. There is precisely one chapter that gets referenced at all in the stories, and that's the Ultrasmurfs and the Ultrasmurfs only. It's no wonder that they're annoying the players with how much they get pushed.

**** It's worth noting that the Ultramarines and the Grey Knights being turned into TheWesley can both be laid at the feet of writer Matthew Ward. Whenever someone at Games Workshop or Black Library tries to tone it down, Ward in turn retcons it.

** [[OurElvesAreBetter Elves]] in general seem to have slowly turned into this trope over time for [[YourMileageMayVary large portions]] of the fantasy roleplaying fanbase, regardless of the system or setting in question. BrokenBase doesn't even begin to cover it. People either love them to death or think they're an entire race of Wesleys, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground, with each side thinking the other is FanDumb personified. Drow in particular suffer from this trope in a bad way, not the least of which because of the exploits of a [[ForgottenRealms certain scimitar-wielding fellow]] and his legions of fanboys. It's telling that the trend in modern fantasy games/settings leans much more toward [[OurElvesAreDifferent Our Elves Are Worse]].

** ''"Kid geniuses" aren't as common as many people think. (Though they are often as annoying as people think.) Minors make up 14% of the Inspired population, with one genius in 50 being under the age of 13. These "'''Wesleys'''" show a slight proclivity for computer science, with dimensional research also being popular.''