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%%* ActingForTwo: Whenever Lily and Billy interact on ''Glass of Water''.



* TalkingToHerself: Whenever Lily and Billy interact on ''Glass of Water''.

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** ''Fanfic/{{Stockholm}}'', a Comedy/Grimdark Romance fanfiction of ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' that was co-written by Lily, and published in 2014. Lily has denied the existence of this fanfiction.

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** ''Fanfic/{{Stockholm}}'', ''Stockholm'', a Comedy/Grimdark Romance fanfiction of ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' that was co-written by Lily, and published in 2014. Lily has denied the existence of this fanfiction.
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** 'Rather Vocalized Illusion', and much of the environment surrounding the series' inception. She expressed views in this web series that she would later consider unsavory.
** Her old videos with Creator/JoshScorcher, particularly the collaboration review of the episode 'Over the Barrel' from 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'. In a 2019 Q&A video, she said that she wasn't happy when the videos were made, and likes them even less as time passes, wishing they'd be taken down.
** {{Fanfic/Stockholm}}, a Comedy/Grimdark Romance fanfiction of ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' that was co-written by Lily, and published in 2014. Lily has denied the existence of this fanfiction.

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* OldShame
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** 'Rather ''Rather Vocalized Illusion', Illusion'', and much of the environment surrounding the series' inception. She expressed views in this web series that she would later consider unsavory.
** Her old videos with Creator/JoshScorcher, particularly the collaboration review of the "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E21OverABarrel Over the Barrel]]" episode 'Over the Barrel' from 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'.of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. In a 2019 Q&A video, she said that she wasn't happy when the videos were made, and likes them even less as time passes, wishing they'd be taken down.
** {{Fanfic/Stockholm}}, ''Fanfic/{{Stockholm}}'', a Comedy/Grimdark Romance fanfiction of ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' that was co-written by Lily, and published in 2014. Lily has denied the existence of this fanfiction.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3HEhzaDn4 The]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-u5fNj1d4 Date Night]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE series]] has tons of [[Main/PlayedForLaughs played for laughs]] and [[Main/LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] examples between Lily and Lizzy (who does the art for Lily's human puppet). [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are engaged.]]
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* OldShame
**'Rather Vocalized Illusion', and much of the environment surrounding the series' inception. She expressed views in this web series that she would later consider unsavory.
**Her old videos with Creator/JoshScorcher, particularly the collaboration review of the episode 'Over the Barrel' from 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'. In a 2019 Q&A video, she said that she wasn't happy when the videos were made, and likes them even less as time passes, wishing they'd be taken down.
** {{Fanfic/Stockholm}}, a Comedy/Grimdark Romance fanfiction of ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'' that was co-written by Lily, and published in 2014. Lily has denied the existence of this fanfiction.
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* CreatorBreakdown
** Between 2017 and 2018, Lily's content became steadily more venomous and vitriolic with many fans becoming turned off from it. From 2019 onward it eased off. Lily later stated that the reason for the steady decline was the fact that she was stuck in an abusive relationship and it had detrimental effects on her mental health, in addition to having been raped two months prior to the end of the relationship.
** In 2020, Orchard completely broke down during a video in which she detailed increasing pressure from both fans going to her for creative and personal advice and critics hounding her over some of her actions and views, describing the two as "treating [her] like a free editor and therapist" and "harassment from the Alt-Right." She took a hiatus after that and closed off her social media for several months.


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* MissingEpisode: Everything from Rather Vocalized Illusion was scrubbed from her channel, as Orchard deleted anything from before she started seriously focusing on ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''.


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* TalkingToHerself: Whenever Lily and Billy interact on ''Glass of Water''.
* TrollingCreator: ''Gravity Falls is Garbage and Here's Why'' is an April Fool's prank video. Lily appears to start talking about the show, but then the visuals are suddenly replaced with an image of [[BigBad Bill Cipher]] in a white void, and droning white noise becomes the only sound. Said image and noise lasts for two hours, with Orchard never saying anything else. Lily predicted that the people who are fixated on "bringing her down" would complain about the video's supposed negativity without watching it. This turned out to be the case, despite the video being a joke to anyone who watched it for more than thirty seconds.
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[[https://m.youtube.com/user/Bhalspawn Lily Orchard]] is a [=YouTube=] producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]

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[[https://m.youtube.com/user/Bhalspawn Lily Orchard]] is a [=YouTube=] producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]
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Lily Orchard is a [=YouTube=] producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]

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[[https://m.youtube.com/user/Bhalspawn Lily Orchard Orchard]] is a [=YouTube=] producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]
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* PromotedFangirl: Lizzy Orchard went from unnoticed fan, to artist, to content contributor, then later to [[OfficialCouple girlfriend]], and now to fiancée.
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Lily Peet is a Youtube producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]

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Lily Peet Orchard is a Youtube [=YouTube=] producer and comedian/critic specializing in animation and television, but her major focus surrounds ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.'' Her primary works are a riff show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6rUHNH1JM&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg9Ty_VlT2TNimmNfgRFu3740 ''In A Minute'']] and a more general pundit/opinion show titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRkQOJMneE&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg8iOGLrjr-vxkoMq4sG4AY8 ''Glass of Water.'']]
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* DoubleEntendre: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE Date Night: Don't Starve Together]], Lily spends about a minute [[ItMakesSenseInContext joyously celebrating finding meat]]. The on-screen edits [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this, with the [[RuleOfThree third]] saying, [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments "IT'S A DICK JOKE!"]]

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* DoubleEntendre: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE Date Night: Don't Starve Together]], Lily spends about a minute [[ItMakesSenseInContext joyously celebrating finding meat]]. The on-screen edits [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this, with the [[RuleOfThree third]] saying, [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments "IT'S A DICK JOKE!"]]JOKE!"
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* DoubleEntendre: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE Date Night: Don't Starve Together]], Lily spends about a minute [[ItMakesSenseInContext joyously celebrating finding meat]]. The on-screen edits [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this, with the [[RuleOfThree third]] saying, [[CrowningMomentOfFunny "IT'S A DICK JOKE!"]]

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* DoubleEntendre: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE Date Night: Don't Starve Together]], Lily spends about a minute [[ItMakesSenseInContext joyously celebrating finding meat]]. The on-screen edits [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this, with the [[RuleOfThree third]] saying, [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments "IT'S A DICK JOKE!"]]
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Lily's web persona is a smug, lecturing narcissist that camps somewhere between Creator/JimSterling and [[Series/That70sShow Red Foreman]]. In an unscripted setting, such as ''3AM Rambles'' and ''Date Night'', she comes off as an extremely sentimental goofball.

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* AscendedExtra: [[Main/TagalongKid Billy.]]



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** Video Games (or any media in general) where female characters are dressed for fanservice while serving some form of combat role will always be heavily criticized for this.
*** ''Glass of Water - Tropes vs Orchard Blossom'' visually depicted the trope as needing to die a painful death.

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** Video Games (or any media in general) where female characters are dressed for fanservice while serving some form of combat role will always be heavily criticized for this.
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this. ''Glass of Water - Tropes vs Orchard Blossom'' visually depicted the trope as needing to die a painful death.



** Japanese Animation in general.
* ComplainingAboutComplaining: ''Glass of Water - Theory Weary''
* DeadpanSnarker



* {{Expy}}
** Glass of Water to [[Creator/BobChipman The Big Picture]]
** In A Minute to [[Creator/TheCynicalBrit The Cynical Redub]]
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[MissingEpisode deleted]] all of these original videos.
** Indeed an early episode was criticising a radical Muslim group for being overly offended by a South Park episode, and Comedy Central for completely bending to a vague threat and censoring the next episode, while defending Trey and Matt's right to freedom of speech. More recently, Lily has expressed the opinion that South Park shouldn't hide behind their format as a crude cartoon, or using freedom of speech as a defense for controversial content.
* HypocriticalHumor: Subverted at the start of one her videos where Billy wants to get a Franchise/{{Barbie}} doll for Christmas. She starts to tell him no due to it being a girls' toy, realizes what's she saying and says yes.
** She later stated in a livestream that this was based on an actual conversation between her and her nephew.

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* {{Expy}}
EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
** Glass of Water to [[Creator/BobChipman The Big Picture]]
** In A Minute to [[Creator/TheCynicalBrit The Cynical Redub]]
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
Her first videos were in the style of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[MissingEpisode deleted]] all of these original videos.
** Indeed an An early episode was criticising a radical Muslim group for being overly offended by a South Park episode, and Comedy Central for completely bending to a vague threat and censoring the next episode, while defending Trey and Matt's right to freedom of speech. More recently, Lily has expressed the opinion that South Park shouldn't hide behind their format as a crude cartoon, or using freedom of speech as a defense for controversial content.
* HypocriticalHumor: Subverted at the start of one her videos where Billy wants to get a Franchise/{{Barbie}} doll for Christmas. She starts to tell him no due to it being a girls' toy, realizes what's she saying and says yes.
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yes. She later stated in a livestream that this was based on an actual conversation between her and her nephew.



* JerkassRealization: See [[http://lily-peet.tumblr.com/post/108980429480/one-thing-that-bothers-me-about-rape-culture-is this]] post.
* LargeHam: Lily's arrogance is admittedly this in spades.



* MotorMouth
* MyGreatestFailure: To this day, Lily is still ashamed of herself for making two different ''Rather Vocalized Illusion'' videos filled with anti-feminist rhetoric that is extremely similar to anti-feminist rhetoric used today, without knowing anything about feminism beyond scare-mongering she'd seen from news pundits. %%Might specific there.

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* MotorMouth
* MyGreatestFailure: To this day, Lily is still ashamed of herself for making two different ''Rather Vocalized Illusion'' videos filled with anti-feminist rhetoric that is extremely similar to anti-feminist rhetoric used today, without knowing anything about feminism beyond scare-mongering she'd seen from news pundits. %%Might specific there.



* PromotedFangirl: Lizzy Orchard went from unnoticed fan, to artist, to content contributor, then later to [[OfficialCouple girlfriend]], and now to fiancée.

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* PromotedFangirl: Lizzy Orchard went from unnoticed fan, to artist, to content contributor, then later to [[OfficialCouple girlfriend]], and now to fiancée.



*** Any time a question she has is not even brought up in the episode, she says "Answer me, goddammit!"

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*** ** Any time a question she has is not even brought up in the episode, she says "Answer me, goddammit!"



*** As of the recent visual overhaul, this phrase has been retired. Lily has now taken to drinking water during the show.



** Lily's affectionate manner toward Nintendogal leads to this.



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3HEhzaDn4 The]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-u5fNj1d4 Date Night]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE series]] has tons of [[Main/PlayedForLaughs played for laughs]] and [[Main/LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] examples between Lily and Lizzy (who does the art for Lily's human puppet).
*** [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are engaged nowadays.]]
* ShipperOnDeck: Claims to have started the ship of Firebrand and Ink Rose, and very clearly ships them.
** This extends to real life, [[http://joshscorcher.tumblr.com/post/125765642572/why-do-you-ship-firerose-so-hard-anyway because she genuinely thought they would be good together]].

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3HEhzaDn4 The]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5-u5fNj1d4 Date Night]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFkFaa1-xE series]] has tons of [[Main/PlayedForLaughs played for laughs]] and [[Main/LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] examples between Lily and Lizzy (who does the art for Lily's human puppet).
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puppet). [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are engaged nowadays.engaged.]]
* ShipperOnDeck: ShipperOnDeck:
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Claims to have started the ship of Firebrand and Ink Rose, and very clearly ships them.
** This extends to real life, [[http://joshscorcher.tumblr.com/post/125765642572/why-do-you-ship-firerose-so-hard-anyway because she genuinely thought they would be good together]].
them.



* [[SirSwearsALot Miss Swears A Lot]]: Has quite the colorful vocabulary, both when following a script or casually talking.
* SmugSnake: Glass of Water contains much of Lily's signature arrogance.
** The recent update that added a typical MLP Analysis Puppet seems to have reflected this.
* StrawCritic: Lampshaded and used non-ironically in her ''Glass of Water'' where a drawing of a scarecrow named ''Strawman'' shows up to present a point specifically so Lily can counter it.
** All Glass of Water videos in 2016 use Billy for the same purpose.
* TheWarOnStraw: As stated above, knowingly uses the StrawmanFallacy.

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* [[SirSwearsALot Miss Swears A Lot]]: SirSwearsALot: Has quite the colorful vocabulary, both when following a script or casually talking.
* SmugSnake: Glass of Water contains much of Lily's signature arrogance.
** The recent update that added a typical MLP Analysis Puppet seems to have reflected this.
* StrawCritic: Lampshaded and used non-ironically in her ''Glass of Water'' where a drawing of a scarecrow named ''Strawman'' shows up to present a point specifically so Lily can counter it.
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it. All Glass of Water videos in 2016 use Billy for the same purpose.
* TheWarOnStraw: As stated above, knowingly uses the StrawmanFallacy.----
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Lost Forever was being misused. That's not the meaning of the trope. It's for when content inside a videogame can be gotten by Save Scumming or starting over your game.


* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[LostForever deleted]] all of these original videos.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[LostForever [[MissingEpisode deleted]] all of these original videos.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebVideo/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[LostForever deleted]] all of these original videos.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebVideo/ZeroPunctuation'', ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[LostForever deleted]] all of these original videos.
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** In her In a Minute videos for ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'', it is clear as day that she ships Starco '''hard'''.
-->'''Billy:''' Do you really have to ship right--
-->'''Lily:''' (''cuts him off'') YES, BILLY! YES I DO HAVE TO SHIP RIGHT NOW! I'M THE CAPTAIN OF THIS SHIP, AND I'M GONNA SAIL HER INTO WHATEVER WATERS ''I DAMN WELL PLEASE!''
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*** [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are now engaged.]]

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*** [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are now engaged.engaged nowadays.]]
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*** [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are actually dating.]]

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*** [[Main/RelationshipUpgrade Ceases to be ship tease now that Lily and Lizzy are actually dating.now engaged.]]
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** Indeed an early episode was criticising a radical Muslim group for being overly offended by a South Park episode, and Comedy Central for completely bending to a vague threat and censoring the next episode, while defending Trey and Matt's right to freedom of speech. More recently, Lily has expressed the opinion that South Park shouldn't hide behind their format as a crude cartoon, or using freedom of speech as a defense for controversial content.
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** All Glass of Water videos in 2016 use Billy for the same purpose.

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** All Glass of Water videos in 2016 use Billy for the same purpose.purpose.
* TheWarOnStraw: As stated above, knowingly uses the StrawmanFallacy.
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** This extends to real life, [[http://joshscorcher.tumblr.com/post/125765642572/why-do-you-ship-firerose-so-hard-anyway because she genuinely thinks they would be good together]].

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** This extends to real life, [[http://joshscorcher.tumblr.com/post/125765642572/why-do-you-ship-firerose-so-hard-anyway because she genuinely thinks thought they would be good together]].
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** Lily's line "I love you too Josh... all of the homo" in her collab with Creator/JoshScorcher led to this as well. Until their friendship ended in June 2016, that is.

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** Lily's line "I love you too Josh... all of the homo" in her collab with Creator/JoshScorcher led to this as well. Until their friendship ended in June 2016, that is.
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** Lily's line "I love you too Josh... all of the homo" in her collab with Creator/JoshScorcher led to this as well.

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** Lily's line "I love you too Josh... all of the homo" in her collab with Creator/JoshScorcher led to this as well. Until their friendship ended in June 2016, that is.
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* HarsherInHindsight
** Lily's initial Glass of Water videos discussing the negativity of Digibrony and Tommy Oliver become this with Season 5, where Lily has been at her most negative and bitter.
** Lily's silent Pony OC slowly became increasingly bitter and exhausted with Commander Firebrand in her appearances in Taking Too Seriously. Then comes the news that their real life friendship is over for much the same reason.
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* HarsherInHindsight
** Lily's initial Glass of Water videos discussing the negativity of Digibrony and Tommy Oliver become this with Season 5, where Lily has been at her most negative and bitter.
** Lily's silent Pony OC slowly became increasingly bitter and exhausted with Commander Firebrand in her appearances in Taking Too Seriously. Then comes the news that their real life friendship is over for much the same reason.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Her first videos were in the style of ''WebVideo/ZeroPunctuation'', but with topics ranging from a censored ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, to an urban legend surrounding the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. After the first few, the ZP art was dropped, but some of the analytical style remained. Over time, Lily has changed a lot of her opinions, and has [[LostForever deleted]] all of these original videos.

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