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* FirstNameBasis: Justified. The Sides are imaginary and all parts of Thomas, therefore they have no last names and either go by a first name or a title/function. (ex. Duke, Morality, etc.) The acception is Thomas, whom the Sides have addressed by last name for comedic effect or as disrespect.
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* EmbarrassingFirstName: Virgil's name reveal is something he sees as embarrassing, [[VirginShaming with Roman even bursting out laughing when Patton points out the similarity to "Virgin"]], although Thomas quickly puts a stop to it. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4LuV5KyzU&t=323s Word of God]] revealed in a Behind the Scenes Q&A video where Thomas says he likes that the name has a 'nerdy' aspect and that he might be a bit embarrassed of it. Virgil seems to tolerate the nicknames he's given and [[SelfAppliedNickname even offers one up himself.]]
--> '''Roman''': It took a lot to trust us with that information... Virgil.
--> '''Virgil''': Eh... You can call me Virge.
--> '''Roman''': It took a lot to trust us with that information... Virgil.
--> '''Virgil''': Eh... You can call me Virge.
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* MrExposition: As Thomas's logic and stored knowledge, he is frequently the writers' top choice for lengthy exposition that may or may not annoy the other sides. [[LectureAsExposition This also ties into his role as the group's teacher.]]
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* ExtravertedNerd: He appears to have nerdier interests, such as Disney, Tim Burton and Paramore, as well as sporting a pair of NerdGlasses, but still appears to be more extraverted and less socially anxious than Thomas. Virgil claims that he’s an introvert due to having pins and buttons on his bag, but this theory doesn’t really seem to be true from Nico’s actions.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Water.
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* ClassicalElementsEnsemble: Established in the Q&A, originally in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' context, but their personalities match up with the astrology ones as well. Roman is Fire (LargeHam fiery passion), Logan is Earth (rational and has SpockSpeak), Patton is Air (a literal airhead), and Virgil is Water (deep and mysterious). A fan on Tumblr did a particularly profound [[http://dsknsk.tumblr.com/post/168354404731/an-elemental-observation-of-the-sanders-sides analysis]] on the matter.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Established in the Q&A, originally in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' context, but their personalities match up with the astrology ones as well. Roman is Fire (LargeHam fiery passion), Logan is Earth (rational and has SpockSpeak), Patton is Air (a literal airhead), and Virgil is Water (deep and mysterious). A fan on Tumblr did a particularly profound [[http://dsknsk.tumblr.com/post/168354404731/an-elemental-observation-of-the-sanders-sides analysis]] on the matter.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Earth.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Air.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Fire.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He's self-centered, egotistical, insensitive, and hotheaded... but he's also chivalrous, noble, and incredibly loyal, which is also a textbook example of a [[HotBlooded Fire]] [[FourElementEnsemble personality]] in astrology.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He's self-centered, egotistical, insensitive, and hotheaded... but he's also chivalrous, noble, and incredibly loyal, which is also a textbook example of a [[HotBlooded Fire]] [[FourElementEnsemble Fire personality]] in astrology.
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* GuileHero: He will not hesitate to use any manipulative techniques of persuasion, bribing or emotional blackmail with friends and enemies alike so that Thomas ends up doing what he thinks it's good for Thomas. Even Janus, the biggest manipulator, complained that when he tried to do the same Patton does on a regular basis, he was called out for doing so.
-->'''Janus:''' Objection! I'm sorry, but that (throwing a piece of candy to Logan) is bribing the witness.\\
'''Logan:''' ...and harmful for your teeth.\\
'''Patton:''' Oh, no, I wasn't trying to do that, I was just trying to... sweeten the deal?\\
'''Janus:''' Wow, Thomas, it seems these days your moral compass is pointing South... towards HELL! [...] He's clearly manipulating the witness into doing what he thinks it's best. Wait a minute... who was it that was called a Scooby Doo villain for doing the exact same thing? Oh, yeah! It was me, disguised as Patton.
-->'''Janus:''' Objection! I'm sorry, but that (throwing a piece of candy to Logan) is bribing the witness.\\
'''Logan:''' ...and harmful for your teeth.\\
'''Patton:''' Oh, no, I wasn't trying to do that, I was just trying to... sweeten the deal?\\
'''Janus:''' Wow, Thomas, it seems these days your moral compass is pointing South... towards HELL! [...] He's clearly manipulating the witness into doing what he thinks it's best. Wait a minute... who was it that was called a Scooby Doo villain for doing the exact same thing? Oh, yeah! It was me, disguised as Patton.
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* FiveManBand: Thomas and his mind. Thomas is TheLeader. Virgil is [[TheLancer his Lancer]]. He's usually right behind Thomas when trouble starts, and he's sarcastic, cynical, and obnoxious where Thomas is kind-hearted and optimistic. Logan is TheSmartGuy, representing the more factual and pragmatic part of Thomas' brain. TheBigGuy Roman is loud, daring, and the most eager to jump into action. Patton acts like TheChick, being the nicest, most emotional, and most optimistic of the group.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Established in the Q&A, originally in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' context, but their personalities match up with the astrology ones as well. Roman is Fire (LargeHam fiery passion), Logan is Earth (rational and has SpockSpeak), Patton is Air (TheChick and a literal airhead), and Virgil is Water (deep and mysterious). A fan on Tumblr did a particularly profound [[http://dsknsk.tumblr.com/post/168354404731/an-elemental-observation-of-the-sanders-sides analysis]] on the matter.
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* FourElementEnsemble: Established in the Q&A, originally in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' context, but their personalities match up with the astrology ones as well. Roman is Fire (LargeHam fiery passion), Logan is Earth (rational and has SpockSpeak), Patton is Air (TheChick and a (a literal airhead), and Virgil is Water (deep and mysterious). A fan on Tumblr did a particularly profound [[http://dsknsk.tumblr.com/post/168354404731/an-elemental-observation-of-the-sanders-sides analysis]] on the matter.
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* ManipulativeBastard: In "Sanders Asides: Working THROUGH Intrusive Thoughts", it’s heavily implied that he wasn’t just causing trouble to mess with Thomas, but to ''get a rise out of '''Logan''''', which he ultimately succeeds at when Logan snaps at him.
-->'''Remus:''' Oooh-wee, Logan... now you’re speaking my language. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion But who do you]] ''[[ArmorPiercingQuestion really]]'' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion want to scream that at?]]
-->'''Remus:''' Oooh-wee, Logan... now you’re speaking my language. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion But who do you]] ''[[ArmorPiercingQuestion really]]'' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion want to scream that at?]]
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* ManipulativeBastard: In "Sanders Asides: Working THROUGH Intrusive Thoughts", it’s it's heavily implied that he wasn’t wasn't just causing trouble to mess with Thomas, but to ''get a rise out of '''Logan''''', which he ultimately succeeds at when Logan snaps at him.
-->'''Remus:''' Oooh-wee, Logan... nowyou’re you're speaking my language. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion But who do you]] ''[[ArmorPiercingQuestion really]]'' [[ArmorPiercingQuestion want to scream that at?]]
-->'''Remus:''' Oooh-wee, Logan... now
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* PoisonousFriend: Deceit is dedicated to helping solve Thomas’ problems, but his suggestions can often be less than wholesome. He’s also not above pulling mean tricks such as throwing Thomas into a panic by claiming to be Patton all along.
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: Deceit is dedicated to helping solve Thomas’ problems, but his suggestions can often be less than wholesome. He’s also not above pulling mean tricks such as throwing Thomas into a panic by claiming to be Patton all along.
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* WeaponOfChoice: Roman's sword is a nifty samurai katana.
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* GrumpyBear: In the smiley, cheerful world of Sanders Sides, Virgil is the near-perpetual grump. In fact, the whole reason he was created was to teach that it's okay to be anxious sometimes (but it's silly to let anxiety go too far as it can be counterproductive).
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* {{Nerd}}: Shows the stereotypical image and behavior of a classic nerd.
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* {{Nerd}}: Though not showing the classic image of a nerd, he certainly is one, and even the hugest nerd of the team, Logan, has noticed this.
-->'''Logan''': That's the problem with pursuing "riches", it can be defined in almost any way.\\
'''Thomas''': Totally, I mean, in ''[[VideoGame/TheWitcher3WildHunt The Witcher 3]]'', if you wish for Master Mirror to make you rich, he only gives you like five thousand crowns! Like, that's rich, Master Mirror? It costs, like, two thousand crowns to get a decent piece of armor!\\
'''Logan''': I never thought I would be able to say this without seeming like a big hypocrite... but you are a huge nerd.\\
''[Roman nods in agreement with a slightly embarrassed face.]''
-->'''Logan''': That's the problem with pursuing "riches", it can be defined in almost any way.\\
'''Thomas''': Totally, I mean, in ''[[VideoGame/TheWitcher3WildHunt The Witcher 3]]'', if you wish for Master Mirror to make you rich, he only gives you like five thousand crowns! Like, that's rich, Master Mirror? It costs, like, two thousand crowns to get a decent piece of armor!\\
'''Logan''': I never thought I would be able to say this without seeming like a big hypocrite... but you are a huge nerd.\\
''[Roman nods in agreement with a slightly embarrassed face.]''
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* SensitiveArtist: Roman, Thomas's creative side, is the most emotional and dramatic next to Patton (the side that literally represents Thomas's feelings). He struggles with criticism and validation of self-worth, especially from Thomas.
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** Patton: Sudden changes in Thomas' life can make him break out of his silliness and feel sad. Losing someone Thomas loves romantically, which is a type of sudden change, can make him act way more seriously and smartly than on average while he's in that sad mood.
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* HiddenHeartOfGold: Downplayed, Logan is not a jerk by any means, rather he hides a caring and compassionate heart under a facade of coldness and lack of feelings. But when Thomas is haunted by intrusive thoughts, Logan throws schedules aside and focuses on Thomas' mental health and wellbeing, and in his room he has a plushie of each of the Sides and Thomas on his bedside table and he loves to look at them before sleeping because he loves his friends, even when he hides it. Janus is the only one who has seen through this facade and seems to know Logan's true feelings.
-->'''Logan''': I don't feel anything.\\
'''Janus''': [sarcastic] Oh, of ''course'' you don't.
-->'''Logan''': I don't feel anything.\\
'''Janus''': [sarcastic] Oh, of ''course'' you don't.
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* EndearinglyDorky: He struggles a lot interacting with Nico, always getting nervous and awkward in his presence, and often saying or doing things around him others would find cringey, like tripping on a trash can and then hiding inside while Nico is looking, talk to Nico and speak in CaptainObvious ("I like... songs...") or accidentally saying something that would have offended Nico under other circumstances ("Yeah, [you're] super nosy, what's wrong with you, man?"). Nico, however, seems to find this trait of Thomas funny and attractive, as it seems the more awkward Thomas looks in front of him, the more time Nico wants to spend close to him.
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* Puppet: A creepier/possessed version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drippy makeup and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing, brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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** Roman transforms into a detailed, extra-chinned puppet that reminds of ''[[Series/TheMuppets The Muppets]]'' or ''[[Series/SesameStreet Sesame Street]]''.
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** Roman transforms into a detailed, extra-chinned puppet that reminds of ''[[Series/TheMuppets ''[[Series/TheMuppets2015 The Muppets]]'' or ''[[Series/SesameStreet Sesame Street]]''.''Series/SesameStreet''.
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* ProudToBeAGeek: And this was made clear already in the first scene from episode one, where he appears sleepy, surrounded by toys and dolls of many things he loves, like a teddy bear wearing a ''[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]'' shirt, a pizza stuffed doll and a [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] stuffed doll.
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* ProudToBeAGeek: And this was made clear already in the first scene from episode one, where he appears sleepy, surrounded by toys and dolls of many things he loves, like a teddy bear wearing a ''[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven Universe]]'' ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' shirt, a pizza stuffed doll and a [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] stuffed doll.
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* TwoDecadesBehind: Just like most parents, Patton is kind of out of touch with current events and what young people like. Made clear in "Putting Others First", when he describes a hypothetical scenario in which Thomas goes out to buy the new ''Videogame/{{Frogger}}'', both Thomas and Roman point out that Frogger is very much forgotten, so a new Frogger game would be very unlikely to happen.
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* TwoDecadesBehind: Just like most parents, Patton is kind of out of touch with current events and what young people like. Made clear in "Putting Others First", when he describes a hypothetical scenario in which Thomas goes out to buy the new ''Videogame/{{Frogger}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Frogger}}'', both Thomas and Roman point out that Frogger is very much forgotten, so a new Frogger game would be very unlikely to happen.
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* MeaningfulName: His true name is revealed to be Janus, who, in Roman Mythology, is a (literally) two-faced minor god who represents duality, decisions, doorways, and is an overseer in beginnings and ends. Given that Deceit is a ([[ScaledUp literally]] ''and'' metaphorically) two-faced Side that can be on either side of a debate, AND that his name is revealed in a video that focuses on decisions and foresight, the name "Janus" [[JustForPun fits him like a glove.]]
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* MeaningfulName: His true name is revealed to be Janus, who, in Roman Mythology, is a (literally) two-faced minor god who represents duality, decisions, doorways, and is an overseer in beginnings and ends. Given that Deceit is a ([[ScaledUp literally]] ''and'' metaphorically) two-faced Side that can be on either side of a debate, AND that his name is revealed in a video that focuses on decisions and foresight, the name "Janus" [[JustForPun [[{{Pun}} fits him like a glove.]]
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* Puppeter: Remus created a Fake Spooky version of Nico in an attempt to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts among other things in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts. He conversed through the Spooky Nico saying that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing, like Remus is controlling the Fake Nico. Eventually, through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas defeats Fake Nico and by an extension Remus by dancing
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* Puppet: A creepier/possessed version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drippy makeup and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing,brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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* Puppet: A creepier/possessed version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drippy makeup and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing,brandishing embarrassing, brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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* CreepyCreation: A creepier version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drips and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing,brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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* CreepyCreation: Puppet: A creepier creepier/possessed version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drips drippy makeup and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing,brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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* CreepyCreation: A creepier version of Nico was featured in Working Through Intrusive Thoughts, in which Remus attempts to make Thomas filled with Intrusive Thoughts by many things including creating a creepy Nico Flores. He looks like the real Nico, except under his eyes are black drips and a black knife is in his hand. The faux Nico says that Thomas is annoying and embarrassing,brandishing the knife. Through the power of receptive music therapy provided by Logan, Thomas dances which defeats the creepy Nico into a puff of smoke
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* BabyOfTheBunch: Downplayed, but he kind of slides into this after he becomes more open to character development. He is actually not any younger than the other Sides (as they are all the same person), but he often acts like an EmoTeen and have moments of irrational immaturity. Logan and Patton tend to treat him like a child and Roman tends to treat him like an AnnoyingYoungerSibling. Patton often makes remarks about Virgil's "cuteness" even in situations where Virgil's trying to be scary and treats him like his son, and Logan is quick to parse through Virgil's pessimism with reason and logic not unlike a strict parent. Still, Virgil isn't babied and is very vocal about his opinions, as he often corrects where he sees the other's going wrong.
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* TheBabyOfTheBunch: Downplayed, but he kind of slides into this after he becomes more open to character development. He is actually not any younger than the other Sides (as they are all the same person), but he often acts like an EmoTeen and have moments of irrational immaturity. Logan and Patton tend to treat him like a child and Roman tends to treat him like an AnnoyingYoungerSibling. Patton often makes remarks about Virgil's "cuteness" even in situations where Virgil's trying to be scary and treats him like his son, and Logan is quick to parse through Virgil's pessimism with reason and logic not unlike a strict parent. Still, Virgil isn't babied and is very vocal about his opinions, as he often corrects where he sees the other's going wrong.
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* BabyOfTheBunch: Downplayed, but he kind of slides into this after he becomes more open to character development. He is actually not any younger than the other Sides (as they are all the same person), but he often acts like an EmoTeen and have moments of irrational immaturity. Logan and Patton tend to treat him like a child and Roman tends to treat him like an AnnoyingYoungerSibling. Patton often makes remarks about Virgil's "cuteness" even in situations where Virgil's trying to be scary and treats him like his son, and Logan is quick to parse through Virgil's pessimism with reason and logic not unlike a strict parent. Still, Virgil isn't babied and is very vocal about his opinions, as he often corrects where he sees the other's going wrong.
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'''Portrayed by:''' Aleksander Wild and Diana Truman
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* KindheartedCatLover: He loves cats and wears a cat hoodie wrapped around his shoulders. However, as he is also allergic to cats, he can't get close to them, to his dismay.
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* KindheartedCatLover: He loves cats and wears a cat hoodie wrapped around his shoulders. However, as he is [[IronicAllergy also allergic to cats, cats]], he can't get close to them, to his dismay.
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* RaisedCatholic: "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts" confirms he was brought up Catholic and is still somewhat religious. His first ideas of right and wrong, and what it meant to be a good person, began with this upbringing. This was hinted at in "Selfishness v. Selflessness," when everyone swore to tell the truth -- Thomas and Patton were the only two to actually swear on the Bible, with Patton swearing specifically on a youth edition.
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* GreenAndMean: Green is his theme color and boy is he mean.