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Customer
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07:23:15 AM Nov 24th 2013
I recently edited this page, but I want to keep what I edited Idiot Ball to for reference:
  • Idiot Ball: All over the place.
    • It hits Twilight for not even trying to truly consult her friends, gather any sort of evidence or clues,note  and attempting to claim that Cadence was evil on her word alone. There's also the fact that Twilight had been acting undeniably protective of her brother and annoyed at the bride on principle, before she even realized who that was. This made it easier for the others to assume that Twilight was simply being overly emotional and jumping to conclusions, something they know that she's done before. Shining Armor's What the Hell, Hero? towards Twilight also confirmed their suspicions.note 
    • It hits the other Mane Six, including Celestia of all ponies, by having them never even consider that Twilight's accusations may have merit. Instead, they basically shrug off Cadance's behavior as "wedding nerves" and continue about their business, obviously much more excited over the wedding rather than their best friend's concerns.

The reason for this is due to me trying to keep this entry as neutral as I can make it, since I do believe that both Twilight's actions and the others' reactions apply for the trope. There was also the fact that the original edit stated that the others were "totally unjustified", which just isn't true (I posted a detailed discussion topic on it here).

Now, I'm of the camp that thinks both sides of that argument should get over it, but we need to at least maintain accuracy on the main page.
Sjogre
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11:51:11 PM Nov 15th 2013
Should Right for the Wrong Reasons have been put into YMMV? Because, well, that scene fit the trope to a "T." Everything that Twilight brought up had a reasonable explanation that didn't point being evil. Twilight was basically set off by vague rudeness, rather than Deceptive!Cadance's failure to recognize her, which would have been proof if she had noticed it.
MsCC93
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06:50:17 AM Jul 19th 2013
Am I the only one who feels that fans should just get over the Made Out to Be a Jerkass incident and move the fuck on? Because at the end of the day, it doesn't affect Twilight's friendships and Twilight was proven right anyway. I think the fans take some moments too seriously.
SummerKtreva
11:42:32 PM Oct 27th 2013
Also, from their points of view, the rest of the Mane 5 and Celestia were totally justified in their behavior. Shining Armor wasn't, but Queen Chrysalis had him under mind control. Remember, only Shining Armor and Mi Amore Cadenza are there when Twilight gets all excited about the wedding. The audience sees Twilight's reaction, but the other ponies don't. Also, as far as I can tell Twilight never tells them she knew Cadance before. They probably would have listened if it was more "I know Cadance. That isn't Cadance" instead of "This mare is no where near good enough for my big brother! Rage!" So, yeah, the fans need to get over it.
shoboni
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08:31:26 PM Nov 13th 2012
Can I nuke the fan-service and ascended meme entries? They're just plain creepy.
VVK
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03:20:37 AM Nov 1st 2012
edited by VVK
I removed some tropes for not being found in the episode. Let's see... at least:

  • Broken Aesop: It was basically saying this contradicted the aesops before or something. I don't agree, but more importantly, it said nothing about how this episode shows one thing and tells another (or anything does just that), so it's not an example anyway.
  • With Us or Against Us: Huge stretch there. Shining Armor was saying something like "You weren't considerate about this aspect, which you should care about," not "If you don't agree with one thing, you must not care about anything else either."

I do wish people would stop thinking "I really didn't like this happening in the work, I have to find a trope to complain about it with." Not only is it in itself silly, but in practice they never get the trope examples right when they (apparently) do that.
Craver357
06:06:43 AM Nov 1st 2012
edited by Craver357
Somehow, I do agree with you. The Square Peg Round Trope thing make the tropes and the articles inaccurate. People need to be considerate on what's present and what's not.
shoboni
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08:25:02 AM May 8th 2012
What trope would Spike playing with the toys/cake toppers be? Would it be "Shout Out" or "Audience Surrogate"?
VVK
09:07:19 AM Jun 6th 2012
edited by VVK
I don't know, neither of those. Also, I didn't think of it like that at all. Not everything is about the Periphery Demographic. I know I don't exactly feel like I'm being like Spike there...
shoboni
08:17:58 AM Jun 16th 2012
I was just assuming there was a joke in there somewhere.
VVK
02:54:50 AM Nov 1st 2012
I assumed the joke was about characters acting silly.
shoboni
08:32:33 PM Nov 13th 2012
Could it be a lighthearted Take That, Audience!?
shoboni
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08:22:40 AM May 8th 2012
"What Could Have Been: According to the writer this was supposed to be a one-shot, slice-of-life episode without any villain. But it was rewritten as a two-parter with an adventure aspect."

Is this really "what could have been?" when the changes were a massive improvement and turned out the best episode to date?
OmniSonic
05:50:42 PM May 16th 2012
Even if it was, which there is no way of confirming for sure, that doesn't matter for What Could Have Been. For better or worse, it is simply What Could Have Been.
GraySloth
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01:39:11 AM Apr 28th 2012
edited by GraySloth
So is his name Shining Armor or Shiningarmor Sparkle?
OmniSonic
01:18:13 PM Apr 29th 2012
Let me answer this question with another question: Is her name Rarity or Rarity Belle?
SakuraTenshi
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06:02:58 PM Apr 24th 2012
I would like to propose Stealth Pun being added to the list. As pointed out on 4chan in this amusing joke: >Princess Celestia takes care of the day >Princess Luna takes care of the night >Princess Cadence takes care of Twilight.
InfiniteLunacy
08:54:48 AM Apr 25th 2012
My Mind is blown
InfiniteLunacy
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09:15:41 AM Apr 24th 2012
During the fight scene with the minor Changelings, Fluttershy gets surrounded by four Rainbow Dashes. One of them is real and knocks out the other three.

Then...

Dashie Kisses Fluttershy!? At least that's what Some of the shippers in my local group and I say, on account of the kiss SFX during it.

But did they really?
OmniSonic
10:26:23 AM Apr 24th 2012
After studying this clip at 1:22 for a solid seven seconds, I cannot deny the plausibility. The kissing sound effect is far more prominent than the fighting background noises, but reasonable doubt remains. I'm sure someone who takes shipping far more seriously than I do will do a frame-by-frame analysis to determine whether or not lip contact was made.
VVK
09:12:47 AM Jun 6th 2012
edited by VVK
I suspect it's a "picks her up" sound effect, like all those other movement sound effects for characters peeking out from behind something, characters thrusting their heads forward, and other things like that that don't actually make a sound.
PDL
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04:44:53 PM Apr 23rd 2012
Why on earth does this page have a WMG section? We've got 10 entire pages of Pony-related WM Gs. We don't need one for a single episode.
OmniSonic
08:45:13 PM Apr 23rd 2012
This is some Wild Mass Guessing on my part, but it seems people don't know where to put their crazy theories.
Scrounge
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05:27:14 PM Apr 22nd 2012
Why are the episode titles not showing at the top of the recap pages for the "Canterlot Wedding" episodes? Is this some sort of technical hiccup?
MadWritter
02:46:45 PM Apr 23rd 2012
Unknown and I'm 100% sure is a technical hiccup.
GovernorExplosion
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01:42:16 AM Apr 22nd 2012
Don't know if this goes under Unfortunate Implications or not, but there were a couple of people commenting about how overjoyed they were that Twilight had an older brother...so they had more characters to invoke incest shipping with.
rTicWolf
05:14:57 AM Apr 22nd 2012
No, because the implication is not made within the show itself. Let's face it, if we went by incest-slash-fic writer's standards, every show on on TV would have to include Unfortunate Implications.
Underachiever
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01:11:15 AM Apr 22nd 2012
So, is it canonically "Cadence" or "Cadance"? Just because I noticed that somebody apparently went through the article replacing every instance of the former with the latter, which AFAIK isn't even a real word (wiktionary.com has it as a common *misspelling* of 'cadence', though)...
OmniSonic
03:12:55 PM Apr 23rd 2012
Official releases and Studio B staff have used both versions. I remember seeing a post somewhere that confirmed it as "Cadance" but I can't find it, so don't take my word for it. Spell My Name with an S indeed.
TheNerfGuy
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06:21:03 AM Apr 12th 2012
Anyone think that Cadence will be a Take That to all these alicorn O Cs running around?
Ryonne
11:44:46 AM Apr 21st 2012
This still could be possible. Her characterization more or less echoes that of most Mary Sues running about fanfiction.
RHJunior
01:13:50 PM Apr 21st 2012
It's more probable that she's a Take That to all the fans who throw a TANTRUM whenever anyone makes an alicorn OC....

As to her characterization, it's done deliberately, in retrospect, to make the counterfeit Cadence's behavior that much more obvious. Plus it's mostly fond memories being recited by Twilight—- and it's not like Twilight's given to exaggeration, is she?
OmniSonic
02:14:58 PM Apr 21st 2012
Note: Both of Twilight's second season episodes, "Lesson Zero" and "It's About Time", are about how she takes a particular issue and exaggerates its potential effects, leading to wild and unreasonable action on her part. No wonder her friends don't side with her when she initially confronts the impostor Cadence.
Appjeackxpinkie
03:05:03 AM Apr 23rd 2012
What happened to the reviews?
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