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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#38026: Dec 18th 2014 at 11:42:22 AM

Actually here is the beauty of both guided bullets and tracking point. It would be entirely feasible to use other similar forms of tech from off the shelf tech to make them. Tracking point really isn't all that special in and of itself. Aim correction is not new for ballistic weapon systems and weapons like the SMAW Serpent utilize it.

At this point where we are seeing we are less then 20 years away from them seeing field. Tracking Point will be even shorter because it is already a commercial product seeing some limited sales meaning there is the start of the specific manufacturing base for it in place.

Well, I sure didn't expect that it was actually feasible to do all of that within this decade, or even the next. Yeesh, we're going to need smart guns to be the default weapon type in the next few years' near-future FPS games if we want those games to be realistic at this rate.


OK, I just found the ending of this ad for the TrackingPoint weapons to be quite hilarious.

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#38027: Dec 18th 2014 at 1:36:51 PM

-face palm- That was horrible. Fucking Texas.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#38028: Dec 18th 2014 at 1:37:36 PM

@Gabrel: numbers games are b.s.

The US has a lot of "war stocks", but that's what they are, equipment (a lot past it's prime) kept in reserve. We also have units tied up in: South Korea (8th Army), Kuwait, Bahrain, Afghanistan (we are drawing down) and a few other locations.

China, Russia and many middle eastern nations have tanks that pale in comparison to the M1-A2 SEP. But our tanks have to get there. Ditto aircraft.

Many Teen Series fighters (F-15, 16, and 18) are aging rapidly. That's why we have both the F-22 and F-35. The B-52 and A-10 have been able to soldier on, mostly because one has a ton of spares and TLC, the other is the A-10. The number of A-10s is ~300, so I question the site's numbers.

China, Russia, India, South Korea, Japan, Europe and even Pakistan all have programs to replace their aging fleets. Korea and Japan are worried because improvements in Chines and Russian aircraft threaten them directly.

Again, the USAF and USN have to get there. One of the reasons a THAAD unit is in Guam and Patriot is in Okinawa, we need those bases intact. The Not Secret is that China has drawn crosshairs on them.

Same with manpower. Only a small fraction actually is a soldier with two boots, a rocksack, combat helmet and a rifle. Soldiers at the Rear outnumber the shooters by 7-10 for every infantryman.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#38029: Dec 18th 2014 at 1:38:08 PM

[up][up][up]I wanna post my horrible marksmanship to facebook.

edited 18th Dec '14 1:44:51 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
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#38030: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:10:30 PM

[up][up] Mind you, things aren't as rosy as you'd expect. In Britain, I've heard that force reductions for "Force 2020" are ahead of schedule due to people leaving the military, and those that are left are very hard-worked and need a rest after Afghanistan.

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#38031: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:22:16 PM

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/115896/dfa-wont-appeal-us-stand/

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#38032: Dec 18th 2014 at 2:45:09 PM

The website Gabrael posted is not meant to be an end-all-be-all of military capabilities throughout the world. It's a ballpark assessment of military resources, and it's obviously meant to be taken with a pinch of salt.

I was surprised to find Iran ranked number 4 in naval power, but it makes sense if you think about it.

edited 18th Dec '14 2:53:23 PM by Aprilla

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#38033: Dec 18th 2014 at 3:24:18 PM

Maybe in terms of local antiaccess, since speedboats, SSKs, mines, and truck-launched Exocets can make life hell for nearby surface combatants. It's the oceanborne equivalent of guerrilla warfare. The flipside is that such weapons are not suited for attacking opponents except for the occasional ambush; minefields aren't power-projection tools.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#38034: Dec 18th 2014 at 3:26:22 PM

Well, unless you lay them thousands of miles from your home waters...

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#38035: Dec 18th 2014 at 3:41:48 PM

The problem with the site is that it's purely a numbers comparison. It makes no distinction based upon quality. That's why North Korea is ranked as having twice the naval strength of the US, because it's got a ton of coastal defence craft, even though half those craft are useless from a military perspective. It's even worse when you look at specific categories, as micro-submarine rust buckets that can barley get under the surface are weighted the same as a modern nuclear powered submarine with state of the art stealth technology and ballistic missile capabilities.

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#38036: Dec 18th 2014 at 3:52:23 PM

Well, of course it is, silly rabbit.

There are plenty of other websites you can visit if you want a more detailed, side-by-side comparison of military capability across the world.

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#38037: Dec 18th 2014 at 4:35:41 PM

My 2 cents. Regardless of how any number of sites or groups categorize comparisons of militaries from where I am sitting it is all just varying forms of pointless dick waving. None of them actually contribute any sort of meaningful knowledge and much like plans pre-war stats never survive contact with the enemy.

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#38038: Dec 18th 2014 at 5:07:14 PM

True. It's just fun speculation, if nothing else. The bulk of real-time simulators based on real-world nations fall somewhat firmly into that category.

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#38039: Dec 18th 2014 at 5:47:13 PM

This thread is too dull:

The mysterious lure of the French Foreign Legion keeps drawing Americans

The story is bizarre enough to serve as the plot of an action movie: 2nd Lt. Lawrence J. Franks Jr. quit his job in the U.S. Army, fled the country and secretly enlisted in the elite French Foreign Legion under an assumed name, authorities said. He deployed numerous times, including during a conflict in Mali, and then turned himself in to U.S. officials this year, seemingly at peace with what he had done.

Jean-Claude Van Damme FTW!

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#38040: Dec 18th 2014 at 5:49:14 PM

I think it's the axes

Oh really when?
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#38041: Dec 18th 2014 at 5:53:40 PM

Beards, their sappers get to grow beards and wear those leather aprons....

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#38042: Dec 18th 2014 at 6:30:55 PM

Ah, the FFL. Some interesting skeletons in that particular closet. Compare and contrast...

edited 18th Dec '14 6:32:16 PM by Achaemenid

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#38043: Dec 18th 2014 at 6:36:56 PM

Well, unless you lay [mines] thousands of miles from your home waters...

Bit late, but my personal favorite is Operation Pocket Money. For the cost of one morning's work without any casualties, the USN did in one operation what years of bombing failed to do: shut down Haiphong Harbor. Turns out you can lay naval mines from A-6s and A-7s just fine.

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#38044: Dec 18th 2014 at 6:40:57 PM

He deployed numerous times, including during a conflict in Mali, and then turned himself in to U.S. officials this year, seemingly at peace with what he had done.

And is now in Leavenworth for desertion.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
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#38045: Dec 18th 2014 at 6:45:33 PM

Yeah, Big Army don't play with that. All those deserts who fled to Canada in OIF and OEF found that out the hard way.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#38046: Dec 18th 2014 at 6:47:28 PM

Interestingly he deserted so that he could fight, after he got stuck in doing admin in a stateside medical unit or something.

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#38047: Dec 18th 2014 at 7:38:27 PM

Aprilla: Some of them yes. But for me I see a larger focus on those tactics and strategy trying to learn how to use your equipment not so much lets try and compare on paper type arrangement.

The French Foreign Legion has a lot of mythos and romanticism built up around it. Much like many other storied units that draws fascination. For example see March Or Die starring Gene Hackman.

Wow we don't have a page for that one. I need to rewatch it and make one now.

edited 18th Dec '14 7:40:20 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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#38048: Dec 18th 2014 at 9:05:46 PM

If he was smart he'd have stayed in france.

As for those who run to Canada, I can kind of understand(don't agree with but understand) draft-dodgers, but joining the army voluntarily then running when it's time to fight? Fuck that.

I'm baaaaaaack
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#38049: Dec 18th 2014 at 9:33:12 PM

Woo, just finished "A Call To Arms", the first book in Timothy Zahn's Manticore Ascendant series (it takes place in the Honor Harrington universe, so you know I'm all about that). Set a few centuries before the main books, it focuses on a new recruit in the Royal Manticoran Navy dealing with the service's nasty case of dry rot as the government tries to decide if it's even worth spending the money to keep them at all.

Pretty fun read, though I was a bit annoyed at how all these officers had this weird compulsion to keep this enlisted rating around so he could help them figure out solutions to various problems when ordinarily they'd likely just send him off to do his actual job.

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#38050: Dec 18th 2014 at 10:51:23 PM

First surplus Humvee sale a success

The first surplus auction of U.S. Military Humvees took place on Wednesday, and they hauled in big bucks. The 25 trucks on offer at Gov Planet.com all had opening bids of $10,000 and sold for between $21,500 and $41,000. The federal government keeps 75.29 percent of the revenues.

In New Mexico, the state requires a chain welded to parts of the under carriage to keep them from dragging on the pavement so a HMMWV is "street legal".

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