The question wasn't "What fictional universe would you love to live in because you'd be a hero?" It was "what fictional universe would be worst to live in?" It's fair to say it wouldn't matter how well an individual would do, or how a troper would do if they lived in said world, but what world has overall the worst quality of life for a most of it's populace.
And for that I'm seconding Warhammer 4k.
But that was not the discussion. The discussion relating to a hero's life came because Geek Code Red stated all fictional worlds would be awful to live in by default because fictional worlds are driven by conflict, thus The World Is Always Doomed and you'd be surrounded by assholes. The debate (if you can call it that) was refuting that notion by simply stating that's what heroes are for, and thus some people would be pretty comfortable in those worlds.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Thanks for the recap, but there's this line, above the orange comment above the reply field, and it says, "Discussion: (Which I assume is the discussion we're having here. Right now.) What would be the worst fictional world to live in?"
That's the discussion I was referring to. And what my post was largely in response to. I mean I'm not saying you can't have your discussion, I'm just clarifying what the original topic was, and responding to it.
I actually listed Hyrule as one of the best worlds to live in in that topic. I want to find a portal to Hyrule and go live there. Yes, even with the homicidal chickens.
The Matrix... hoo boy. Don't forget that if the "Zion-ites" have decided that you are "too much a part of the system" they don't consider you really human anymore and feel free reign to kill you for the good of (their) humanity. I HATE the lobby-shootout scene. Sure, it's got neat effects, but we know, at that point, that those security guards that are "a part of the system and must be taken out" are ACTUAL PEOPLE who are none-the-wiser about the Matrix or the greater mission and are DYING IN DROVES in their pods in the real world when they've been shot. These were innocent people, probably people with families they won't be coming home to, all because they were trying to do their jobs of protecting and serving the public and their bosses, with no idea that they were "in the way" of humanity's freedom.
It's a horrible mentality to have - that innocent/oblivious/bystandars are expendable for some greater good.
Yes, the Matrix is a horrible world. If you're trapped in it, you're random fodder/not considered a "real" human because you've yet to be "freed." If you're outside of it, you may be told to kill innocent people to free mankind because the Machines use them as fodder. Gah!
In which I attempt to be a writer.The Warhammer 40K world doesn't suck for everyone. If you're upper-class in a rich Hive World, things are pretty fucking sweet unless something nasty comes along, and while of course the games & stories focus on that, it's a huge galaxy and lots of it is not at war.
Oh, and if you're an Ork, life is sweet. You get to bash heads, fight, nick stuff, stomp 'umies. It's the life, I tell ya.
A brighter future for a darker age.To be honest, outside of hive worlds 40k is okay. Say you're on a farming world, it'll be fine. It shows us the worst, and that's our impression of it.
"Did you expect somebody else?"EDIT: Oh crap, this thread is about worst fictional world.
edited 18th Jan '15 6:53:01 AM by dRoy
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.I imagine Pandora from Borderlands would be pretty bad. Hot, trashy, guns EVERYWHERE... I guess it depends where on the planet you are, but all the locations in the first borderlands are pretty much nothing but a highly dangerous desert landfill.
Shadow of the Colossus's world. It's both sadly empty and beautiful. Also, giant rock beasts are running around.
"You can't swallow what I'm thinking!!"
I love playing/replaying Shadow of the Colossus precisely because I love that world. I'm introverted and when I commune with nature, I like to be totally alone, or possibly with an animal-companion, but not with people. In many ways, that place looks like paradise to me - although I can see it being hellish for someone who isn't as hermit-like as I am.
In which I attempt to be a writer.I would love it for the first few years, but living there permanently? No way. Another world would be Midgar from FFVII.
"You can't swallow what I'm thinking!!"The Dead Space universe would likely suck. Absolutely insane religious leaders, dangerous zombies that can kill and turn every living thing into crazy killing machines, an awful authoritarian government....
By the end of Dead Space franchise it's very likely that millions of people have died to necromorphs and unitologists...
Sorry to bring up Batman Beyond again, but I remember when I was a kid, I was confused as to why people would still live in Gotham City. My guess was a guy with great Psychic Powers stood on the outskirts of Gotham and did this: -extends his hand and shakes it like Count Dracula in Dracula: Dead and Loving It- "People of Gotham City, I command you to continue living in Gotham even though it's a horrible hellhole!"
Flora is the most beautiful member of the Winx Club. :)Wrong thread
edited 4th Feb '15 8:09:47 PM by Explosivo25
I don’t even know anymore.Yeah I was wondering that myself. Gothan makes Detroit look tame (for obvious reasons....god forbid how bad some of the crime will be in badly rundown cities when we get technology that can make up something similar to Freeze's and Firefly's suits in the future)
1984, Half Life, Little Fears
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesSpace Station 13. The game is fubaring hilarious but imagine actually working there
in space
with a bunch of incompotent boobs and probably a clown
And then there was silenceAtlas Shrugged looks pretty bleak. Everyone is either a spineless layabout or a self-obsessed workaholic with a thing for giving lenghty speeches; everywhere except the US is a communist hellhole, and it's not like I'd want to live in the US anyway; also, all railway engineers have gone violently insane because a motor and a generator are now the same thing, diesel engines need firemen, and freight trains can do 160 km/h over a track full of sharp turns and steep grades just fine.
Mache dich, mein Herze, rein...The universe of Dishonored is pretty bad, as it seems that basically all form of life, from fish, to whales, to dogs, are deadly, and besides that plague and obvious social problems and the like.
However, I'm gonna argue Star Wars. Some conflict between force users is almost inevitable, if you're not already living in a brutal dictatorship. Slavery and drug use is rampant, and if you're a criminal in any way, there's always a chance that the supposed good guys will slice your hand off, because they'd rather use a lightsaber than a weapon with a stun setting. Besides that, there seems to be mostly three kinds of worlds: frontier backwoods, entirely a city (usually one that looks like it was ripped from Blade Runner), or way too rich for you to afford.
If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe.Ya know, when you think about it, The Whoniverse would really suck to live in. Think about it. There's always a chance that you'll be gunned down, disintegrated, or who knows what else by Daleks, Cybermen, and all of the other hostile critters you share space with, and even though The Doctor is always there to stop them, there's no guarantee that you won't be dead by the time he stops the threat. Even if you somehow wind up as one of the Doc's companions, that doesn't make you invincible. (Am I right, Adric/The Ponds/Katarina/Sara Kingdom?)
edited 14th Feb '15 2:49:19 PM by kablammin45
"I shall not be foolish again, my dear Gwendolyn!"Thomas the tank engine
it's even worse than 1984
Pokémon would be a horrific place to live. All the wildlife can kill you and the fate of the world is always left up to ten year olds. Also, absolutely everyone in the world is obsessed with Pokemon so I have a feeling anyone who doesn't care or is indifferent towards Pokemon is burnt at the stake socially isolated.
Westoros wouldn't be too bad for me... but then, some characters in there are based on my ancestors. Hell, House Bolton is how some of my ancestors were, take Up To Eleven.
But on that note, I'd say Star Wars for how enforced its class system is. Jedi really are a class of their own, and it's through supernatural abilities they become such.
"Did you expect somebody else?"