Hatred, an isometric shooter where you play a murderous psychopath

i was thinking more linkin park. I just can't take the protagonist seriously.

I have to ask, what would make you take it seriously?

Also, why linkin park?

I for one would take him more seriously if he looked more mundane and spoke less floridly. For instance, an ex-military with an excessively tidy home, reading out the opening narration in a sad or gentle tone. Think Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime in tones, while being Marlo Stanfield in content.

Heck, just have the main character be Marlo, Chris, or Snoop. Or Brother Mouzoune. Or Spiros. Or Sergei.

Damn that series had some scary motherfuckers.

Or have him be like that nice-seeming boy from Breaking Bad.

Linkin Park, are you kidding? The guy is mowing people down, not harming himself.

I don't understand how Linkin Park is associated with self-harm per se. Their songs did involve a great deal of "feeling sorry for oneself" and "feeling lost and oppressed", but I don't remember any actual self-hatred.

Either way, Linkin Park is hardly a good fit. Their instrumentals are too beautiful, their lyrics too pathetic. The game sounds more like something that would benefit from Doom Metal on the calm bits and Death Metal on the fast-paced ones.

I didn't say they were bad, I said they weren't appropriate. Remove the lead singer and they'd be pretty close to perfect. But still utterly inappropriate for this game's style.

edited 4th Mar '15 1:02:27 PM by TheHandle

Call me a Linkin Park apologist, but they're not so bad.

How about something hilarious, like Huey Lewis?

Something like this?

"Nothing matters! No one understands my pain! Why don't pretty girls like me?!"

"And why is it that ugly girls do? Woe me!"

Neckbeards or 12 year olds. Pick one.

Por que no las dos?

Neckbeards tend to have a mentality not that far removed from children.

So, on 10th march, in a new release of polish game magazine, CD-Action, there will be included a preview◊ of Hatred. If I'll get the magazine, I'll try to post the tranlated preview here.

edited 5th Mar '15 9:34:38 AM by SecondKaitenhammer

That is uncharitable to children.

"Myth partially busted". Which one, the one perpetuated by the creators, or the popular opinion that the game fucking sucks?

You mean prejudice; it ain't out yet.

Yeah, it's definitely a game to blast some pseudo-manly mallcore.

Like this or this? Or maybe this?

Hm, I need to prepare a playlist; finding metal that actuall fits the mood is tougher than I thought. A lot of metal is very "glorious" and "sensitive", with female or tenor vocals, and guitar riffs that go very high. This game is not, cannot be glorious. The music needs to be grim, guilty, almost ashamed of itself. It should be fast, but not hurried; methodic.

Hm. How about this?

In general, it's very hard for Metal to come off as manly, what with all the complaining and unhappiness and swearing. Manly men keep their misery inside, and, when they bother to express it, do so sharply and efficiently. Nah, you want manly, you gotta go merry:

"I'VE GOT A SHOTGUN, AND I FEEL LIKE FUNKIN' THIS NY SUBURB UP! WHO WANTS TO JOIN THE PARTY? AHAHAHAHA!"

"Sure, man, do what you wannaaaaargghh!"

edited 20th Mar '15 8:38:04 AM by TheHandle

I'm guessing he meant this sort of thing.

... Well, that could work. I mean, it does fit. But it's kind of... basic? It's... like, if you applied the rules of pop (simplistic music, lots of repetition, very catchy, easy to sing along to) to metal.

I dunno, it's fun at first, but then it gets kinda boring.

How about this instead?

...you're kidding, right?

You should probably look into Death Metal, or something. Actually a Groove Metal band (like Pantera) would work with a "game" like this.

edited 20th Mar '15 12:08:52 PM by Alichains

I suppose everyone has their own notion of what the ideal of manliness is like. Mine is more along the lines of Gentleman and a Scholar; more leadership than aggression, more discipline than ferocity, quiet in anger, dry in wit, affable in manner, extremely sensible, helpful to the helpless, preferably has won the game before it started, but can improvise, and, last but not least, keeps a Stiff Upper Lip and doesn't go around advertising their feelings unless there's a specific need to play them up (they should be very good at Speeches and Monologues in general, but actively avoid using them unless they must).

I tend to find that all the screaming and the passionate lyrical and guitaric escapades often found in metal are, often, cute but underwhelming. At, best, they're captivating, compelling, beautiful, and sympathetic, but hardly, you know, imposing or majestic or solid or grounded.

edited 20th Mar '15 12:19:51 PM by TheHandle

I thought you were looking for a soundtrack for Hatred. I mean, does any of that describe the "antagonist"?. Of course not. He's a thirteen year old boy's idea of manly. He was made for blasting Pantera at their most worst.

The Antagonist is about as unmanly as it gets, he's downright childish, but the music doesn't have to be.