That post looks more like Trope Repair Shop job.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe very first sentence of the page is a decent definition. Paraphrasing:
Glurge is a work which is intended to be inspiring, heartwarming, or uplifting, but which instead comes across as bigoted, cloying, or depressing. The unintended effect is usually due to a Family-Unfriendly Aesop, unrelieved sweetness or optimism, the over-generous use of anvils in the delivery, or a Double Standard.
edited 28th Jan '13 3:07:17 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.I'm not sure why our page is lifted entire from the Snopes glossary. Even with the attribution, that's not really what we're looking for on trope pages. The history of the word is less important to us than the way it's used and the effect it has on a work.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.I agree that copying the whole history over isn't good.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI pulled out the history text and the snopes credit. We definitely do not want to run other site's text exactly as-is.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyThe description looks good; now we just need to weed out any examples that don't fit.
The Popotan example looks more like Clueless Aesop or one of the "bad aesop" tropes.
Jack Chick also doesn't look like a fitter.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAgreed; the Popotan example doesn't seem to fit at all, and the Chick Tracts do have some Glurge but overall I don't think they fit well enough to count. I don't think the other comic book example fits, either.
edited 31st Jan '13 6:45:45 AM by Willbyr
Thank you, you've pointed out what I've been trying to tell tropers!
Also, I need to ask this...these tropes were listed to be connected to Glurge:
- Black-and-White Morality
- Children Are Innocent
- Corrupt Church
- Dead Little Sister
- Easy Evangelism
- Ill Girl
- Inspirationally Disadvantaged
- Jesus Saves
- Littlest Cancer Patient
- Missing Mom
- Purity Sue
- Saintly Church
- Stalking is Love
- Too Good for This Sinful Earth
- White Man's Burden
- Whoopi Epiphany Speech
- You Know Who Said That?
Should they have explanations as to how they are connected to Glurge typed in with them? I just have a hard time seeing any connection.
Oh, Equestria, we stand on guard for thee!Yes, although I question the presence of Corrupt Church and Purity Sue
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanCorrupt Church probably shows up in anti-religion glurge, and Purity Sue is for the characters who are meant to be role models in this sort of thing (think Elsie Dinsmore).
Yes, and I agree with .
Today I typed in explanations next to that list of tropes in the Glurge page to explain how they connect to that. So tell me...are the explanations on the mark? Do they need fine-tuning?
Oh, Equestria, we stand on guard for thee!So, is example cleanup all that's left to do here?
Thread has been dead for almost a decade with no progress since. Locking.
Macron's notes
I know that Glurge is a Your Mileage May Vary trope, but it seems to be in serious need of cleaning up.
Here is a tidbit said by one troper in the Discussion tab:
I really don't know what this trope supposed to mean? From what I pick up it's stories with Tastes Like Diabetes with some Unfortunate Implications of sort, or is it Anvilicious? Or does just mean happy uplifting stories with some Fridge Horror? What does it mean? Furthermore, it seems like the trope page seems to be used by people as an excuse to complain about and/or make fun of certain works. Am I missing something?
Those are some good questions. Personally, I think some of the entries are Not An Example.
Oh, Equestria, we stand on guard for thee!