Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
I'm deeply confused by it. Half the description is Demonic Possession and then half is Unwitting Pawn.
I... think it's "Demonic Possession is used for subterfuge rather than overt action" which A: Is The Same But More Specific and B: ... doesn't fit the Rick And Morty example, which seems to be the inspiration for the trope anyway. And the picture's bad. Also, I have no idea what "innocence" means in terms of the trope. Does it just mean "not a villain"?
Re: Beacon Of Hope: I 100% thought it was Hope Bringer. Send it back.
edited 3rd Apr '18 12:20:15 PM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Yep, send the last two back.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Embarrassing Hobby (draft) has been launched by Breakermorrant without participating the draft that has not been edited for two years.
UPDATE: El Squibbonator launched Kiss The Decoy (draft).
edited 7th Apr '18 12:59:37 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔And both of those should be sent back, too
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!I unlaunched both of those and issued a suspension to Breakermorrant. Elsquib at least participated in the other one, even though it launched with a mere four examples.
edited 7th Apr '18 6:14:43 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"thanks for the update, Fighteer
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!Are the unlaunch requests supposed to be made in Ask The Tropers or elsewhere, or can we just notify the mods? I think there's a consensus that Innocent Used By Evil needs to be sent back.
edited 8th Apr '18 9:36:24 AM by Morgenthaler
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"Mods sometimes visit this thread, but you can let us know if consensus is reached.
Either way, sent it back.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportAdministrivia.Hermit Craft is in the Administrivia/ with a list of links to videos and no trope examples
Hominids is just a line saying it's a webcomic, sent stub notifier
Breakfast With Sister may be a fetish comic from the description
RackaRacka is one line and a picture, sent stub notifier
Characters.Ruby Red Rose Heart 7703 looks like a character page for a troper
Sbers Are Now Warp Gods RP May ROB Have Mercy On Us All has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Cardians Chernobyl has no tropes and a character page with no tropes, sent stub notifier
The Little Book of Prayers has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Memento Mori SYOC has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Too Loud has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Dan The Snowman has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Forged Battalion has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Mister Wives has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Just Shapes & Beats has no tropes, sent stub notifier
The Humans has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Kenny Loggins has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Fanfic/Noel has one trope and no description, sent stub notifier
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Half A Sixpence has tone ZCE trope, sent stub notifier
Fairy Savior Guardian Of Lovely Dreams has two ZCE tropes, sent stub notifier
Settheworldonfire has two tropes, sent stub notifier
Danganronpa 0 DISTRUST in a bad namespace sent namespace notifier
edited 9th Apr '18 4:52:38 AM by jormis29
Invalid Administrivia page has been cut; creator messaged.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report- Administrivia.Hermit Craft: Has been cut
- Breakfast With Sister: Send this to the P5.
- Characters.Ruby Red Rose Heart 7703: Has been cut
- Danganronpa 0 DISTRUST: Has been cut. Note that this leaves behind an orphaned Characters subpage.
(slightly ninjaed)
The creators of the stub work articles will be given a chance to flesh them out.
edited 9th Apr '18 5:56:37 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Pardon if this is kinda tattletale-y, but El Squibbonator needs a tap on the shoulder. Because he launched Llmma Loogie without participating from the draft. Also, does Kiss The Decoy need to be sent back even if he participated from the other one?
edited 9th Apr '18 6:01:27 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔ElSquibbonator has been suspended. Both tropes have been unlaunched.
edited 9th Apr '18 6:08:04 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I just moved Half A Sixpence. It was the only work page in the Theater namespace, so I copied it over to the Theatre namespace. The creator and sole editor of the original before I moved it was atalanta4.
Don't forget to cutlist the improperly namespaced article.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Is the Theater namespace actually valid? It has an icon, but as of right now it consists of just 2 redirects.
It's not valid. Those redirects may be to preserve inbounds, but it wouldn't make any sense to do so since the title would create a disambiguation.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Ok. Both added to cutlist
Should the Theatre namespace get the icon then, if the Theater namespace in invalid?
Today, ~Huthman recreated the characters page for his own story, Theriomorph Chronicles, with no tropes listed at all and with "Feel free to improve on the tropes and descriptions of the page" as part of the visible page text (i.e., not even commented out to make it visible only to editors). This characters page previously existed, but was cut sometime last year, after I pointed out that both it and the associated work page had numerous grammar and spelling errors, Zero Context Examples, and Example Indentation issues. After seeing the character page pop up, I discovered that he also recently deleted all but two examples from the work page, Theriomorph Chronicles, leaving it a stub.
Have you messaged them?
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!NotOnAnyFlatbread, did you PM me?
I don't know what to do. I'm good at playing at Forum Games, yet I'm terrible at editing. I've ordered it to be cutlisted. One day, I wanted to revamp the Characters page. I decided on starting barebones since I wanted it to be simple and not bad wiki writing riddled. I forgot to comment out the "Feel free to improve on the tropes and descriptions of the page" quote.
I also purged most of the tropes that had numerous grammar and spelling errors, Zero-Context Examples, and Example Indentation issues because it needed a cleanup.
I'm sorry for that, since I liked my Theriomorph Chronicles Troper Work page.
EDIT: I've created a sandbox with the intent of fixing up issues for my works: Theriomorph Chronicles Characters.
edited 9th Apr '18 11:54:23 PM by Huthman
Up in Useful Notes/ParaguayI paged you to this thread using the forum notifications when I wrote my post. We already discussed the same pages by PM previously without it accomplishing anything, and the stub notifier would have directed you to this thread, too.
Thanks for starting the process of moving it to a Sandbox. Working on it in a Sandbox page is great—that's what they're for. But pages that are actually posted are supposed to meet the TV Tropes standards for pages, including minimum numbers of tropes as well as the writing and formatting rules. If you need extended time to draft the pages to those standards, that's not a problem as long as the drafts stay in appropriate places and not in the main wiki pages.
Are you also planning to move the main work page to a Sandbox for further work, or are you planning to add at least one more trope with context to get it up to the minimum?
I added two tropes on the main work page, Starter Villain and Abandoned Hospital. Thanks. By the way, don't cut list the character page, I still need it to be published.
Up in Useful Notes/Paraguay
Innocent Used By Evil seems to have been launched rather prematurely. Fewer than 10 examples total, a barebones description that doesn't really link it to other tropes or distinguish itself from them (and seems to expect the reader to know who Morty Smith is just from the name alone), and bad formatting. Even the image might run afoul of Just A Face And A Caption.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"