Is this an example?

I'm inclined to say not an example since, due to the character's reapparance, we know what happened to the mouse. What Happened to the Mouse? is when some minor character or plot point is completely dropped without explanation. Since the character reappeared, the trope does not apply.

edited 26th Sep '16 2:45:47 PM by sgamer82

Not sure this is the right thread to ask, but I wondered about this example on Indian Summers:

• WTH, Casting Agency?: The odd casting choice (at least physically) of Nikesh Patel as Aafrin Dalal who is a Parsi. The darker-skinned Nikesh portraying the Parsi Aafrin is odd, as the Parsi people are very fair/white skinned due to their Persian and Iranian descent and do not have darker skin. Made especially strange as it is implied that the Dalal family in the show stuck to their own kind and only married among people of their own community for generations.

So I don't mean to frame this in an All Asians Look Alike kind of way, especially because the example does make a good point that the show implies that the Dalal's have only married within their own community (there's a plot point that his family doesn't approve of a Hindu love interest).

However, since I don't think any of the actors playing members of the Dalal family are actually Parsis and as the example itself acknowledges, it's not an acting issue, I wonder if the example fits. Like as a comparison, John Wayne as Genghis Khan was WTH Casting because of race. But not solely because of race. A big part of it is also Wayne's limited or at least specialized acting range.

I'll get rid of it unless anyone else thinks it should stay.

But just so I'm clear about the trope, if the character wasn't brought back, would it be an example?

Let's say that aliens attack Gotham City, killing more than half the population and enslaving nearly everyone there. Would every minor supporting character or villain who has ever appeared in a Batman comic count as this if their fates aren't brought up, even if they had no involvement in or relevance to the story during the attack and nothing really left unresolved (apart from "Maybe we'll see this character again someday.")?

I have to say that it a "wth?" reaction based solely on an actor having darker skin seems like a stretch (and maybe slightly prejudiced), especially if what you say about the other characters not being of that ethnicity is true. For YMMV it might be good enough, but if it were up to me it would be gone.

edited 26th Sep '16 7:38:27 PM by supergod

Reposting from the previous page so it doesn't get lost.

Could someone take a look at these examples.

YMMV.Maximum Ride:

• Ass Pull: When the kids develop all kinds of new powers in The Final Warning, there's no proper explanation for why they've got those kinds of powers in particular, or for why they all got the new powers at roughly the same time even though they're of different ages.
• Author's Saving Throw: The entirety of Maximum Ride Forever could be viewed as an attempt to patch the disastrously-received ending of Nevermore. Let's just say it didn't work.

ComicBook.Max Ride First Flight:

• Adaptation Distillation: The plot is greatly simplified, with many of the New York scenes (such as one where the Flock visits a fancy restaurant) excised completely.

ComicBook.The Multiversity:

• Dropped a Bridge on Him: Despite being a main character in the Guidebook issue, the only clue to Chibi!Dick Grayson's fate in Multiversity #1 is during a brief montage, where it's shown that he was hanged by the Atomic Knights.

Film.Project Almanac:

• Noodle Incident: These start popping up towards the end of the film, events occur that are never explained and NOT EVEN the protagonists know what happened hinting that something has gone horribly wrong.

YMMV.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014:

• Creepy Good: Michelangelo is often received this way, between the Uncanny Valley and Chivalrous Pervert tropes.

The Michelangelo Creepy Good example should definitely go, since it isn't a YMMV trope and is too subjective to move to the main page as is.

@What Happened to the Mouse?: The main issue, as I understand the trope is that the character or plot point is dropped with little or no explanation. If something happened such that anyone nor confirmed alive is assumed dead, that would not be this trope.

What would be the trope would be seeing a character who survived the disaster only to never appear again afterward.

I would like to ask if the following is an example of Broken Record:

• Broken Record: Stormcast Eternal Stormhosts storm things stormingly like a stormy storm with their Stormystorm Hammerstorms and their magical mastery of storms and lightning during storms of vengeful storminess upon the eternally stormed hosts of their enemies. They ride atop their stormy Stormsteeds at lightning speeds, storming through the battle like a stormy hurricane. Althought they were stormy, they wouldn't let the gale calm their storm. For their storm had been long in coming, like all storms. But before the storm could tempest, the storm stormed the storm.

I ask because the page for the trope itself seems to indicate this is for intentional use where as this seems to be more along the lines of annoyance at the (admittedly excessive) overuse of Theme Naming.

In Vandread, it be said Sweet on Polly Oliver is inverted with Bart and BC? Bart falls for BC, who is a man disguised as a woman, but this goes against the cultural norms of his male only planet?

And Waldo Butters, from The Dresden Files. While he has developed into a true badass, when he appeared in Dead Beat he came face-to-face with a zombie made from his coworker and struggled against his inner fear and what he thought was "reality" until later in the book, at which point he saves Harry's life from a villain and proves crucial in controlling Harry's own zombie and saving the life of an ally with his medical knowledge. Would this be Right Man in the Wrong Place? Or Unlikely Hero?

Normally, you're supposed to indicate what work an example is from. But from what's there that does sound like a correct analysis. I'd cut it.

Oops sorry, I thought the names would be enough to identify it. It is from the character page for Warhammer: Age of Sigmar. There is a history to this as well that I probably should have mentioned. The troper who added it originally put it down as Gag Words but it definitely wasn't that so I changed it to Theme Naming and toned it down a little. The troper then added this entry and I PMed him questioning him about it and suggesting he put it under an appropriate trope on the YMMV page but got no reply, and he later added another sentence to the end of it.

edited 27th Sep '16 2:32:38 PM by SebastianGray

Is this a Sexy Discretion Shot or is it just me?

From The Tough Guide to Fantasyland:

VIRGINS:

6. As TALENTED GIRLS. These are very likely, towards the end of the second third of the Tour, to come across a male Tourist in his BATH and turn implausibly to jelly (a surge of some deep, hitherto unknown emotion swept through her (OMT)). Thereafter they have a sprightly step, a jaunty gleam in the eyes, a yet more tiptilted nose, and a private life over which the Management generally draws a discreet veil.

I found an entire series as an example of Banned Episode. Is this an correct example?

Almost certainly not. Link to the example?

My guess is that it would be Banned in China.

Is the following example:

The Cosby Show: Currently, on major cable networks including TV Land, due to the controversy surrounding its creator and star, Bill Cosby, and allegations of drugging women and raping them while unconscious. May become permanent depending on how Cosby's situation plays out. It was not immediately known whether the current TV Land ban also includes local stations that air the legendary situation comedy, or if other programs starring Cosby are or will be included. However, at least on the Viacom-owned TV Land (and its related networks), mere references to The Cosby Show have been removed from the website altogethernote , and while the complete series is available on DVD, it may be a very long time - possibly never – before the 1984-1992 sitcom is aired on TV again.

You didn't mention which trope you were checking an example of.

EDIT: Oh, for Banned Episode. I'm not sure an entire series can be a banned episode.

edited 29th Sep '16 9:29:27 PM by sgamer82

I posed that question 15 days ago.

This thread isn't exactly a hotbed of activity, is it?

Its been 3 days, could someone take a look at the examples I posted above x14, so far I've had only one response about Creepy Good.

During a discussion with another troper Department of Redundancy Department came up, specifically the Warhammer40000 examples on the Tabletop Games page

• The ever-troperiffic Warhammer40000:
  • Ferrus Manus — whose name means "Iron Hands" — Primarch of the Space Marine chapter the Iron Hands, who actually has iron hands.
  • The chant of the chaos marines "Blood for the Blood God" and "Skulls for the Skull throne".
  • Special character Canis Wolfborn is a Space Wolf, a Wolf Guard in Harald Deathwolf's Great Company, Lord of the Wolfkin, was literally Raised by Wolves, wears a wolf tail amulet and a wolftooth pendant, and rides a Fenrisian Thunderwolf into battle. This and similar examples led to a minor meme where random nouns and names are replaced with WOLF WOLF WOLF.
  • The Chapter-creation rules in Deathwatch allows for the name-generation table to spew out some pretty tautological Chapter names, like the Guardian Guard, War Warriors, Bloody Blood, and... Death Death.
  • Due to trademark issues, the Imperial Guard were renamed the Astra Militarum...which is faux latin for "Space Army". Their Stormtrooper units became "Militarum Tempestus" (no points for guessing what this is suppose to mean).
  • In Dark Heresy, there is an ascended psychic power called Malleus Hammerhand, or, in other words, Hammer Hammerhand.
  • Khârn is arabic for "betrayer". Similar to Malleus above, his name and title translate fully as Betrayer the Betrayer.

Now the trope page says that this trope is about 1- repeating something in a list and 2- the use of part of an acronym after the acronym. If this is true then all of these examples (except possibly the Deathwatch one) are incorrect, especially the "Blood for the Blood God" (could be seen as a 40K version of "render unto Caesar"), Canis Wolfborn (each instance of Wolf is referring to a different thing such as name, rank and affiliation) and the Tempestus (the proper pronunciation is Astra Militarum Tempestus Scions , the Militarum isn't meant to be repeated) examples. I wanted to make sure before deleting them.

edited 30th Sep '16 6:37:50 AM by SebastianGray

"Allows for" means it's not something that's normally there, but must happen by random chance, but it's not actually present in the work. Still just a name, which isn't redundant even if it's repetitive. That goes especially for the descriptive names. First and last names are different, and don't become reduntant just because they're the same. Or titles to the same effect.

So are your saying that the Deathwatch entry isn't an example either and the entire section should be deleted?

Pretty much.

"It could happen" isn't a trope any way you slice it. Unless the trope specifically is about potential, but it isn't.

The only time choices count for tropes is when they're specific, such as being able to pick specific dialogue choices that makes the PC come off as a certain character type, and even then I'd be careful about them. Or if it's an Audience Reaction, as player choices can go in that kind of tropes.

Thanks, deleted.

On Creature Feature, "Buried Alive" is listed under Song of Song Titles. From what I saw in the examples, though, the trope is for songs that actually reference other songs. "Buried Alive" doesn't actually reference any songs in the lyrics, or, at least, not intentionally. Rather, it refers to the works of Edgar Allan Poe, starting with "A Dream Within a Dream" and ending with "The Raven". Would it still qualify as Song of Song Titles or not?

Not sure. I'd count poems as on the fence regarding that. Song of Song Titles doesn't have much of a description, so it's hard to tell what the intention of the trope is. If the focus is on the references to the titles, it would fit. If the focus is on the references to other songs, it wouldn't.