Upon my daily routine of going through a Wiki Walk
, I discovered yesterday that we have a page on Ron Paul
Putting aside the question of just whether or not it's appropriate to have some of those tropes on a page for a real person, I'm more wondering why we even have a Ron Paul page in the first place. He doesn't make any works, and I know precious few places that have referenced him at all.
Also, I note that he, along with the pages for the various US Presidents, are on Main/. That seems a bit odd to me.
I guess the main question is, what are the guidelines for a page for a politician? Just how much of a profile do they need? I'd honestly be tempted to cut them all, but I could at least see the logic of allowing ones with an international profile (such as leaders of a country) stay.
I just worry that allowing pages for any politician that can get on a national debate stage would edge us closer and closer to dealing with political debates.
EDIT: Okay, after further discussion, standards have been made and this thread was moved from Wiki Talk to Special Efforts. Key points:
- Articles for Real Life historical/political figures belong in Useful Notes/. Any that remain in Main/ should be moved.
- To qualify for an article, a person must have a notable presence in fictional media. Per wiki tradition, we're applying a Rule of Three: there must be at least three examples of the person appearing as a character.
- The article for the person him/herself should avoid tropes about them as a person. It should only discuss tropes appearing in (a) their own work — speeches, books, whatever; (b) tropes appearing in fiction where they feature as a character.
- It should be written as a Useful Notes article. We aren't here to be dryly biographical; the point is to discuss fictional portrayals and how they relate to the real person. For the same reason, political soapboxing is absolutely verboten.
- If a person is better known as a creator of media than as a political figure, then they should have a Creator/ article instead.
- For people who have both a significant presence as a character and as an author, they should have both a Useful Notes and a Creator article for them, with Main as a disambiguation.
For purposes of determining trope worthiness, satirical depictions of the actual Real Life
figure do not count. These would include depictions on shows such as The Daily Show
or Saturday Night Live
8/20/2012 EDIT: There is also a sandbox here
. Please contribute both in evaluating those currently on there and any other nominees that you see belong.
edited 20th Aug '12 5:59:46 AM by 32_Footsteps