@Enraged Filia: Every term you cited there can go directly into Casual Nudity
without any problems.
And someone mentioned earlier that an Exhibitionist trope is probably needed, feel free to YKKTW it. It'll probably be named Exhibitionist
or something similar. That's not entirely related to the discussion at hand, as neither of the two tropes were "supposed" to be Exhibitionism of any kind.
And if we're going to bring up the topic of Nudism, I'd refer you to the previous 4 pages — I already brought the idea up, it was correctly shot down. There's no such thing as "Hollywood Nudism," at least succinctly enough to trope — it's very rare that a character explicitly expresses Nudist beliefs
and even when they do, if you ask 10 nudists what nudism means, you'll get 12 answers. However, subtropes such as Ugly Nudist
Shameless Fanservice Girl
is closer to actual nudism, but merely because Casual Nudity
is closer to actual nudism — you still see very few nudists in real life who refuse to dress when they have textiles visiting, for example.
There are, however, three tropes we do seem to have here rolled into this 1 (and a half) trope:
- Casual Nudity: A supertrope. For situations involving nonsexual nudity, a supertrope of No Nudity Taboo, Skinny Dipping, etc. This is ultimately what Shameless Fanservice Girl attempts (and fails) to be.
- No Nudity Taboo: For characters such as Tarzan or the Jungle Book characters, as well as a host of aliens and the like, for characters who simply do not have any taboo about nudity. Usually, the requirement is that they technically should have a taboo about nudity — so Werewolves are an Averted Trope, but Fae typically aren't.
- Innocent Fanservice Girl: For characters who are obvious as to the fetishistic or fancervicey potential of their actions. This is the use of the trope in most pages that aren't actually Innocent Fanservice Girl.
The problem with the two tropes are manifest:
- Innocent Fanservice Girl is misused in most instances outside of the trope itself as a character providing fanservice without realizing they are doing so.
- Shameless Fanservice Girl is awkwardly named, and combined with the previous bullet point ends up with people thinking it's "the exhibitionist trope," despite it saying in the trope description "this is not the Exhibitionism trope."
- "Fanservice Girl" implies they are providing Fanservice, when in reality you have characters such as Feral Children which, while lacking a nudity taboo, certainly aren't "Fanservice Girls." This is what caused this topic to be created, the original poster was upset at the inclusion of children in a "fanservice trope." (I would argue that point as well, but that is a discussion for another day.)
- Effectively the description of Innocent Fanservice Girl lists two tropes, one for a character without a Nudity Taboo at all, and one for characters who feel comfortable being casually nude at times.
edited 6th Apr '12 1:22:25 AM by KiTA