I'm still here, but that doesn't count for much.
So am I, despite having spent the last two weeks working my ass off with my university thesis. 82 pages is no small feat, yet I still found time for checking in several times a day every day.
I'm here too. Got sidetracked by both real life and other threads/sites.
Regarding the last line of discussion...
- I said it was an Imagine Spot. One doesn't always have conscious control over what one imagines at a given moment.
- No, I'm not including anyone merely for completeness' sake. At the very least, each of the characters exhibits a distinct approach to their protectiveness of their charges:
- Shinji is decidedly violence-averse, preferring to steer clear of potential threats, and if actively threatened would choose to flee with his charge, or "turtle" around him/her if flight isn't possible. Push his desperation too far or actively succeed in harming/kidnapping said charge, however, and he'll flip a whole 180 degrees in attitude, going on an Unstoppable Rage in which he completely ignores all injuries he sustains until the transgressor is reduced to several dozen pieces of very dead meat. There's no middle ground for him: His "violence" guage, if you will, can only take a value of 0% or 100%.
- Rei is similarly averse to violence, but not as timid; she will stand her ground and watch the potential threat like a hawk while making it clear that she's ready to use force if said potential threat doesn't back down. Also, unlike most of the others, she prefers to shoot threats from afar rather than wait until they get close or charge at them herself... and she's a very accurate sharpshooter, too. That said, pity the ones who think that fact means she's lousy at melee; far from it, she's probably the most dangerous of the lot in a fight, because she's an absolute Combat Pragmatist who wastes no time in trying to stab the head/heart for an instant kill.
- Asuka doesn't shy away from a fight. In fact, the mere sight of a stranger roaming the same street as her is enough to piss her off, because she considers the whole place as her and her friends/foster siblings' personal territory. She's no Leeroy Jenkins, however, and thus will not unthinkingly charge into a fight nor leave her young charge vulnerable. Once she's sure said charge is safe, she'll stubbornly hunt down the trespasser until they're found, and then she'll make sure she shows them who's the top dog. If they cower before her, she'll be gracious enough to make their death a swift one. If they defy her, though, her outrage will be so colossal that she'll make sure their punishment is drawn out and agonizing.
- Mari is a Blood Knight, through and through. She doesn't actually care whether or not you're a threat; she'll approach you for a fight even if you don't. If you try to avoid a confrontation, she'll just deliver her charge to the nearest vent for safety before actively hunting you down. And she'll take her time toying with you even if you don't fight back; if you prove entertaining, she might even let you go as "thanks" for the fun you gave her. If you prove boring, or actually harm her young charge rather than fight her... well, did I mention that she's a sadist? Because she is; unlike Asuka, when she draws out your suffering, she actually gets offs on it in a sexual sense. And you'll be wishing you had been at the mercy of any of the others.
- Mayumi hates violence as much as Shinji and Rei do, and like Shinji but unlike Rei, her first response to an active threat is flight rather than fight. However, unlike Shinji, when she "snaps", she goes into Tranquil Fury rather than Unstoppable Rage, and demonstrates why More Deadly Than the Male is a thing. See, she doesn't "fight" her enemies per se; rather, she skulks in the shadows and wages psychological warfare on them by exploiting the environment and taking pot shots at them from afar, until the transgressor is reduced to a paranoid wreck who jumps at every small sound or shadow. Only then would she finally deliver the coup de grace, typically by coming out from right behind them. Basically, she fights as if she's playing a Predator Mode scenario from the Arkham series (no, I wasn't thinking of Superwomen of Eva 2: Dark Lady of Tokyo-3; it's pure coincidence).
- Mana is more or less the "least worst" adversary to face among the five. She won't flee from a potential threat, but she won't attack unless you are actively threatening (point a gun at her and she'll give you exactly one second to point it away before she shoots it) or get too close. And even if you do get into a fight with her, she would be mostly trying to disarm you of any obvious weapons, won't purposefuly try to prolong your suffering, won't pursue you if you attempt to flee, and may even try to dissuade the other five from pressing the attack. Unless you've already harmed her charge and/or any of the other five and make it personal for her. Then all bets are off.
edited 2nd Jun '17 11:32:54 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Not to shoot you down just for the sake of shooting you down, but.... I think that's a great deal more personality than Big Daddies / Sisters are generally "allowed" meta-wise, outside of Subject Delta and Eleanor?
Particularly from the way you seemed to describe the scenario in your original post.
Anyway, while I'm thinking about it, I'd like to further explain something on a previous thing I suggested about Shinji being a heel in the "EVA characters as wrestlers" concept.
Basically, I just like the idea — I really, really like the idea — of Shinji being with "the bad guys" in a crossover. Like, he doesn't have to be overtly villainous himself, but... something like a literal Punch-Clock Villain, or at the very worst, some sort of Noble Demon.
I mean, every time I've ever had an Imagine Spot of Shinji being put in Gundam's Universal Century continuity, he's usually a ship's cook (or possibly a janitor or other maintenance worker of some kind) on a Titans vessel, who maybe somehow attracted the amorous attentions of a cute female pilot (who will probably get shot down by an AEUG ace before the end of the story). I think the most prestigious position I ever imagined him in was as Paptimus Scirocco's personal chef, and Scirocco's fond of Shinji despite the latter not being a girl because, well, Shinji makes a damn fine cup of coffee in the morning.
Shinji's not there because he agrees with the Titans' ideologies or politics — for the most part, he doesn't really see it as affecting him and therefore not his problem — but because he just randomly appeared in that faction's territory, and lucked out into meeting half-decent people in said faction that were willing to take care of him and hook him up with a job that he turned out to be decent at.
Basically, I think part of it comes down to not putting him in "main character"-type of narrative roles.... if that makes sense?
edited 2nd Jun '17 9:37:05 PM by EvaUnit01
Basically, I just like the idea — I really, really like the idea — of Shinji being with "the bad guys" in a crossover. Like, he doesn't have to be overtly villainous himself, but... something like a literal Punch Clock Villain, or at the very worst, some sort of Noble Demon.
I mean, every time I've ever had an Imagine Spot of Shinji being put in Gundam's Universal Century continuity, he's usually a ship's cook (or possibly a janitor or other maintenance worker of some kind) on a Titans vessel, who maybe somehow attracted the amorous attentions of a cute female pilot (who will probably get shot down by an AEUG ace before the end of the story). I think the most prestigious position I ever imagined him in was as Paptimus Scirocco's personal chef, and Scirocco's fond of Shinji despite the latter not being a girl because, well, Shinji makes a damn fine cup of coffee in the morning.
Shinji's not there because he agrees with the Titans' ideologies or politics — for the most part, he doesn't really see it as affecting him and therefore not his problem — but because he just randomly appeared in that faction's territory, and lucked out into meeting half-decent people in said faction that were willing to take care of him and hook him up with a job that he turned out to be decent at.
edited 3rd Jun '17 11:58:26 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.That can be applied to literally any fanfic idea. I'm not considering such universal things.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Nope, that's his dad.
The line I had in mind wasn't even Lelouch's more memetic lines, but a much simpler and badass one:
In another matter, I've been thinking last night about a potential Shinji/Mana romcom setup. The two have been going to the same school for two years and are in the same year, but not the same class. Shinji never talked to her and doesn't even know her name but has been crushing on her practically at first sight, half part out of teenage puppy love and half part out of raw sexual desire.
And then the two of them suddenly get put in the same room alone, Mana finds out about his attraction and finds his lack of courage to confess hopelessly adorable. That's how it would start.
edited 4th Jun '17 5:18:09 AM by amitakartok
Just watched a few Attack on Titan video clips (most notably these: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]), remembered that someone suggested putting the Evangelion cast in an Attack on Titan-style setup, and now I cannot get these following mental images out of my mind.
- Shinji as Eren Yeager.
- Rei as Mikasa Ackerman.
- Mayumi as Armin Arlelt.
- Asuka as Levi Ackerman.
- Kaworu and Mana taking the roles of Reiner Braun and Bertolt Hoover, respectively, as Titan Shifters who infiltrated the Survey Corps, and ultimately end up betraying the human friends they've made during their time as spies for the sake of following through with their mysterious mission, even though they agonize over both the decision and how it requires them to reveal their true natures as the very Titans who were responsible for destroying Wall Maria, and thus the protagonist trio's childhood trauma.
Mind you, my mental images don't follow the exact script of the scenes depicted in the videos. For one, I'm imagining that unlike Eren being taught some of his fighting moves by Annie Leonhart (which comes in handy when he fights as the Rogue Titan), Shinji learned techniques from all of his friends in the Survey Corps squad he's on, with each of those friends having a particular specialty that fits their character (e.g. Mari's fighting style is highly fluid and nigh-unpredictable; Rei's, meanwhile, focuses on both brutally pragmatic strikes to vital points and ruthless joint locks for the explicit purpose of both ending the battle as soon as possible and ensuring the enemy is no longer able to fight back; whereas Asuka's style is to take the enemy head on at their strongest and curbstomp them regardless, thereby breaking them psychologically by establishing her superiority to them at the same time that she breaks them physically).
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Why, amita?! Why must you TAUNT me with all of these ideas you know that I'm going to love to bits, and that we both know aren't going to be written?!
Because I have to get these ideas out of my head somehow.
Speaking of ideas that aren't going to be written. Imagine this:
You all know time-looping stories, right? So imagine that one day, Shinji Iraki visits Rei's apartment. She greets him, serves him tea. And tells him that they have been looping in time. She realized this just a few loops ago, and has been gathering evidence to confirm that he is, indeed, looping together with her, even if he hasn't realized it yet. So now she has attained permission from IDSE to disclose the nature of the loops to him, and their own pre-loop identity. In reality, she is (or was) Nagato Yuki, and he is Kyon. To get out of the loops, they will need to deduce the identity of other SOS-dan members and wake them up.
Oh, and Instrumentality is also a danger, so if they can't prevent it, the loops finish with a Bad End. And the actual Rei Ayanami is a real person, too, occupying a different clone's body. It was her who has been resetting the loops (basically, just pressing the "rewind" button, that's all the control she has), just as things were starting to fall apart.
The first "chapter" would be, in essence, an "I have no idea what I'm doing" chapter. The second "chapter" would be the one where they realize that the resident brash, arrogant tsundere with hidden issues isn't really Haruhi.
edited 7th Jun '17 11:42:32 AM by TheNobody
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.Sounds fun.
Let me guess: Haruhi is Misato? Or even better, Kensuke?
Oh, and almost all of this is just a backstory full of Noodle Incidents that may or may not be explored in side-stories. The main story focuses on the effects of Yuji Akimi on the course of the canon plot, be it due to deliberate planning on his part or his absolutely weird occasional strokes of luck.
For the curious, the story idea was inspired by this currently unfinished, mediocre-quality story. If you can withstand generally subpar writing quality, read it; it was an overall enjoyable read, if only for the interesting ideas in it. I mean, have you ever seen a Peggy Sue EVA fic where the Peggy Sue in question accidentally solidifies the swaying of Rei Ayanami's wavering loyalties in his/her favor simply because s/he happened to be making a chance visit to Rei's apartment just as she was about to be kidnapped, with the whole thing ending with the apartment complex collapsing into rubble while the Peggy Sue, Rei, and whoever else that happened to be there watching stupefied?
edited 7th Jun '17 3:34:20 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Let me guess: Haruhi is Misato? Or even better, Kensuke? evil grin
Yes.
But is she, at least, less obvious than Asuka? Also, could I hear your reasoning?
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.- Wacky, fun-loving type.
- Issues not immediately apparent.
Oh. Hm. Thanks.
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often....okay, seems like I fucked up a bit while writing SCE's last chapter. As I mentioned before, I wanted the current chapter's plot to be that Asuka is suffering so badly from hangover that she can't go to school, so Kaworu skips school to watch after her.
Problem is, this takes place on December 7, 2041 and according to my system calendar, that's a Saturday. So there wouldn't be school anyway. What to do?
... Do you need the scene to be on that date specifically?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.The previous day, december 6, is Asuka's canonical birthday and it was explicitly mentioned in the previous chapter as the reason for why Mari and Hikari were over. It was also explicitly stated by Asuka's father that it's a schoolday tomorrow.
I see two possible ways to handle this:
- That particular Saturday is indeed a school day due to working off an earlier national holiday.
- Asuka's father said it was a school day tomorrow because he lost track of which day of the week today was, due to a combination of work-induced stress and loss of concentration caused by the time of the day (shortly before 10 PM).
edited 17th Jun '17 4:01:51 PM by amitakartok
... Or you could just do a Setting Update by shifting forward one year in all relevant dates, because in 2042, December 7 indeed falls on a Sunday.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
...where did everyone go? Again?