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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#4976: Sep 1st 2015 at 10:03:44 PM

Actually, being a native to Parallel UA-97 is one of the main reasons he's even being considered. And it's not like he'll be going in alone, anyway.

In completely unrelated news, Shinji has successfully bullshitted his way into unofficially becoming one of Laharl's vassals. Now he just has to learn how to not get his weak ass killed by LV1 cannon fodder.

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#4977: Sep 1st 2015 at 10:22:03 PM

I know who it is.

It's just, uh, Amy Jo Johnston vs. whoever else has played the Pink Ranger is a poor contest.

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#4978: Sep 1st 2015 at 10:26:17 PM

...yeah, I know. Part of that is an artifact of earlier executive decisions from several years ago, when I did the first few chapters.

Honestly, looking back now those chapters are kind of an Old Shame... buuut they more-or-less still do their job, so I just leave them in continuity, Retool everything from the present onward, and thus relegate the old stuff to Early Instalment Wierdness.

...but for what it's worth, Kendrix slightly edges out Kimberly for my favorite Pink Ranger.

_____

Ignoring that, Night, you have any thoughts on the Nanoha cross thing I posted at the bottom of the last page?

edited 1st Sep '15 10:27:53 PM by EvaUnit01

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#4979: Sep 2nd 2015 at 2:28:41 AM

I do think the long spiel at the beginning is somewhat contradictory to the rest. If he did poorly, or even adequately by normal standards but not by the standards the training is to, they'd bilge him out. Military training is intentionally designed with far more emphasis on failing anyone who doesn't meet standards over encouraging those who exceed them.

It is a truism that it is far more important to prevent the unfit from reaching a battlefield than to ensure the brave and capable do. The craven and the incapable will do far more to damage the cause than the courageous and skilled will do to advance it.

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#4980: Sep 2nd 2015 at 5:58:49 AM

...that's fair enough. I suppose I can switch tacks and bump Shinji up to the bare minimum in competency.

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#4981: Sep 2nd 2015 at 6:32:57 AM

At the mere age 14 and knowing how average Shinji is in terms of physical and mental abilities, that would imply one of the following:

  • The standards are unusually low.
  • Shinji is so obsessively hardworking that decidedly-unhealthy overworking is a constant risk.
  • The standards are actually adjusted to account for the trainee's age, physical development level, and other general expectations.

edited 2nd Sep '15 6:33:46 AM by MarqFJA

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#4982: Sep 2nd 2015 at 6:44:00 AM

Mostly the second one, but also shades of the third one.

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#4983: Sep 2nd 2015 at 8:27:16 AM

That's pretty much what I expected. The first one would've painted the TSAB as being highly complacent, which is nonsensical considering the fact they have Nanoha as an active combat instructor.

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#4984: Sep 2nd 2015 at 9:38:19 AM

As I've said many a time via PM, MGLN!Shinji is pretty much a Generation Xerox of Nanoha and Fate, Gone Horribly Wrong.

Also, ffnet's login server is back up!

So I need reviews for this fic, please, and in the meantime, can I get the PR-inclined among you to take a look at this:

In one of Angel Grove's evacuation shelters, a television was showing the battle on a live news broadcast.

A little boy looked at image of the giant monolith of steel, which had been silent and unmoving for several seconds. Only barely registering the worried voiceovers from the news reporter and camera crew, he turned and asked, "Mommy? Did the Power Rangers lose?"

His mother was about to answer, when something suddenly happened on the screen. It was just a small difference, that most people might not have noticed at first.

One colossal finger had begun to move.

After that, came another, and then another, until the Megazord had clenched its gigantic fist.

The mother began crying in relief, as the defender of world continued to slowly, shakily get back up. "No, they haven't lost."

The Megazord had risen to a knee, by now.

"And as long as we believe in them... They won't lose, ever."

__________

Back on its feet, the Megazord had begun to self-repair some of its smaller wounds.

Spreading its legs to shoulder width, the Megazord then opened up its circuits to the Morphing Grid - the omni-universal quantum energy field born from the never-ending clash between good and evil - and powered up.

And then, with a deafening roar from its thruster, took flight.

"It's because their fighting for our lives."

Sachiel attempted to shoot them down with another energy blast, but couldn't aim quickly enough or accurately enough to even scratch the Megazord in flight.

"Not just yours or mine, or even for Angel Grove. They're fighting for everyone. The fate of the whole world is in their hands."

The Megazord's left arm began to glow a bright blue, as it continued evading the barrage of particle beams.

"That's why they can't lose, why they won't ever allow themselves to lose."

Meanwhile, the Angel was beginning to get visibly frustrated. It knew, it knew, that it would completely destroy its foe if only it could land one more hit. So then, why?! Why couldn't it land a damn blow on those insipid Earthnoids?!

"They might be hurt, and they may even be knocked down. But they will always get back up."

Certainly, the Rangers also knew that they were completely finished if they took another hit from the Angel. So they simply refused to let themselves be hit again, even one more time.

"Even when it looks like they've been defeated, they will always rise up again, even stronger than they were before."

Sachiel, well and truly on the verge of panic, was at that point just firing blind in a desperate attempt to keep the soaring Megazord at bay.

That small hope was absolutely crushed, when the Megazord violently landed in a crouch just in front of the Angel.

Sachiel raised up its AT Field for protection, only an instant before the Megazord slammed its shining blue arm forward.

For several seconds, the Megazord's shining fingers shoved against the AT Field, a torrent of sparks flying everywhere.

All of a sudden, the Angel let out a psychic wail of agony from the pressure being exerted on its very soul.

And then, the very next instant - the AT Field shattered, and the Megazord's shining hand clamped down on Sachiel's face.

Once again, the Megazord began to fly high into the air, ignoring the evil being's desperate flailing about, until suddenly the Angel stopped moving.

Not because it was dead, but out of sheer and complete terror.

One of the fundamental truths of the universe, is that as long as there is life, there will be forces that seek to pervert it to their own twisted and evil ends.

However, there is also another truth of the universe, which overrules that truth.

And it is this second truth, that the Angel was finally beginning to understand, in what it knew to be its final moments.

'Wherever there is evil, someday, heroes will always appear, in order to defeat it.'

And the reason for the Angel's terror in this situation, was best understood from looking out of its own eyes!

Because, looking in-between the Megazord's brightly shining blue left hand, it was able to see the right hand, clenched into a fist and cocked back for one last attack, that would certainly end the fight instantly.

And that right hand, WAS BURNING RED!

With a ferocious roar, the Megazord swung its fist, and completely smashed the Angel's core into atoms, before releasing that energy and blasting Sachiel even further into the sky!

Gracefully, the great steel titan fell back down to Earth, between Angel Grove and the enemy, spreading out its body as a shield.

No sooner had it done so, than the Angel detonated, creating a tremendous explosion.

Thanks to the efforts of the Power Rangers, Angel Grove - and the rest of humanity - would survive to see another week...

Thoughts? Incidentally, the title of this chapter will be "No One Can Ever Take Them Down"...

edited 2nd Sep '15 11:09:46 AM by EvaUnit01

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#4985: Sep 2nd 2015 at 11:05:02 AM

You get two points for the Wasserman reference alone. I'll read when I'm able.

edited 2nd Sep '15 11:05:20 AM by Night

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#4986: Sep 3rd 2015 at 11:37:11 AM

Revamped the Nanoha segment.

Shinji Ikari, now wearing a black dress uniform, stood at attention before one of his superior officers – a brunette of moderate height, wearing glasses. A plaque on her desk denoted her as Commander Suzuki.

As the officer reviewed Shinji's files, she eventually set them down and made eye contact. "Trainee."

Shinji gave a prompt salute. "Yes sir."

"...what the hell are you doing here?"

Shinji was silent for a moment or two, resisting the urge to tilt his head in confusion. "...am I supposed to be somewhere else, sir?"

"Looking at the pace you've put yourself through in order to keep up with your peers, quite frankly I'd expect you to be completely bed-ridden. You've apparently been keeping yourself on the edge of a total burn-out since the second you arrived here, and I still don't know how the hell you've managed to keep this a secret from your parents."

She was referring, of course, to the RF 6 training incident in which Captain Takamachi had corrected a pair of her students for secretly putting themselves through strenuous training without authorization and overworking themselves, some years prior. The finer details weren't common knowledge, but the general outline of the story often made the rounds through new recruits as a sort of cautionary tale.

Shinji shrugged, maintaining his silence. He knew he'd catch hell from Nanoha - and probably from everyone else, too - if she/they found out about his unhealthy training habits, but he honestly didn't really care. So long as he got the end result he wanted, he'd accept whatever punishment was to be in store for him.

The Commander ran a hand through her brown hair in exasperation. "So tell me, trainee. Give me one good reason to approve you for field work."

Shinji was silent for a few moments, with a blank face. Eventually, he gave his answer. "...Sir. I'm aware that I probably raise certain flags on psych eval, and that my personal training habits up to this point have been rather... self-destructive. That said, I've consistently achieved results in training missions. Though my acting skills are sub-par, I've shown that I can take any kind of action in order to maintain a cover. In training, I have overcome nearly every target put before me, by whatever means were necessary. Most were stronger, so I couldn't overpower them. Many were tougher, so I couldn't outlast them. Some were faster, so I couldn't outrun them. A lot of them were also smarter, so I couldn't out-think them. But in every single case, I still got the results that were asked of me. Because there is one thing that I've truly learned to excel at."

Suzuki scowled, and glanced at a video data recording that was playing out on the wall. It showed a VR simulation, running assorted clips of occasions when Shinji had disabled an opponent through ambush, and then doing his damnedest to beat them to within an inch of their lives - as often as not with his bare hands. Finishing the trainee's thought for him, Suzuki muttered, "You might be one of the most twisted individuals I've ever seen on this side of the law, Ikari. You try hard enough to act like a human being, but deep down you're more like a beast. And if you weren't here asking for us to put you on a leash, there's a part of me that's inclined to put you down like the rabid animals you seem to emulate."

Heaving a sigh, she then leaned back in her high-back seat. "But, as you've said, you've consistently achieved whatever results were asked of you, and aside from deliberately overworking yourself every opportunity you get, you're not recorded as having any major disciplinary issues. Despite having absolutely zero capacity to use magic, you somehow managed to scrape your way into the competence zone. However, there's something else that needs to be discussed with you."

Shinji nodded. "Sir."

"A situation has come up," the Commander began, "where your… particular circumstances could make you a considerable asset."

Shinji blinked, but didn't change from his attentive posture. "My circumstances, sir?"

Commander Suzuki leaned forward, her hands clasped together in front of her mouth, light from her desk lamp glinting off of her glasses. "My superiors have... advised me to consider putting you on through, despite your only having passed by the skin of your teeth, so that you can be deployed on an information-gathering mission on your homeworld ASAP."

After taking a moment to process that, Shinji nodded. "…understood, sir."

"Knowing that you have less than 72 hours before deployment, do you still wish to graduate?"

Shinji almost said that he would throw away whatever he had to in order to keep stepping forward, just as he had repeatedly abandoned his health in order to make it as far as he had. He almost said it, but didn't, suspecting that it would be counterproductive. So instead, he simply replied, "Sir. Yes, sir."

Suzuki heaved a sigh, and stamped his papers with an official seal, before handing him a folder. "Against my better judgment… welcome to Special Operations. Now get out of my sight and get yourself some goddamned rest. That reckless behavior of yours might have gotten acceptable results up to now, but you're worthless to me if it suddenly catches up and incapacitates you before you can be put in the field."

As he snapped to a perfect salute, for the very first time in his life, Shinji felt some small measure of pride in himself. "Sir, yes, sir!"

Time until mission start: 63 hours

Thoughts? Anyone? Anyone?

edited 3rd Sep '15 11:37:31 AM by EvaUnit01

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#4987: Sep 3rd 2015 at 2:28:41 PM

Not bad, actually.


Now my turn to ask about a scene. I'm thinking of the following conversation taking place in the next chapter of SCE, between Kaworu and Asuka's dad:

Asuka's dad: It's a long story. Very long. I only ever told one person in the world, and she almost didn't believe me either. Hell, if I hadn't married a scientist, maybe she wouldn't have.

Kaworu: Asuka's mother?

Asuka's dad: Yep.

Kaworu: I heard what happened. She was three at the time, right?

Asuka's dad: Two; her birthday's in December. Anyway, considering that I spent two years in an asylum after the Occupation to get my head sorted out and still have nightmares from time to time, you can see why I never told anyone. They would've tossed my ass back there in a heartbeat.

Kaworu: That bad?

Asuka's dad: Worse than you think. Let me tell you this: only one other guy saw what I did and lived to tell the tale. One. People kiss the very ground he walks on now.

(Beat)

Asuka's dad: We all have our demons. Some of our own creation, some not. Mine are not, but I had to go through that crap anyway. Same with Asuka. That's just how things are.

Kaworu: You accepted it?

Asuka's dad: Hell no. But short of traveling back in time, there are some things that can never be fixed. (motions towards the window) Take this world, for example. How do you suppose things would've gone if Second Impact never happened? I never would've met Kyoko and Asuka wouldn't have been born, for one. Or maybe she would've been born to some other guy and would be a redhead.

Kaworu: Did Asuka get her name from her mom?

Asuka's dad: Nope, she got that from Kyoko's dad Albrecht. Kyoko's family name was Soryu, from her mom Matsuko. Asuka's half-German, half-Japanese on her mother's side.

Kaworu: Did you ever meet them? Your wife's parents, I mean.

Asuka's dad: Albrecht died during the Occupation; Overwatch got wind of him being in cahoots of the resistance. He stayed behind to buy time while the girls made a run for it. I did Matsuko, though; strong woman, that one. Even after she got diagnosed with cancer, she still hung on long enough to lead her daughter to the altar.

Kaworu: Asuka's got good pedigree, then.

Asuka's dad: Damn right she does.

What do you think?

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#4988: Sep 3rd 2015 at 3:35:42 PM

... What is Asuka's full name in this story?

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#4989: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:07:30 PM

Asuka Langley Shephard. She inherits her last name from her American (or rather, ex-American) father.

She never marries either, so she keeps her maiden name all her life. More weirdly though, she doesn't pass her last name down to any of her children.

edited 3rd Sep '15 5:07:51 PM by amitakartok

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#4990: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:16:47 PM

@01: I approve.

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#4991: Sep 3rd 2015 at 6:25:42 PM

[up][up] Wait, then what do you mean by "she got her name from Kyoko's dad Albrecht"? Her full name only has Japanese and English names in it, and Albrecht is German, therefore it stands to reason that whatever name he'd pass on would be German.

... And hold on, are you saying that Asuka had kids out of wedlock for some reason? Why would she not marry whoever her kids' dad is (no idea who it is, since Shinji is by your own admission of little importance to the plot in general and you never talk about what he does in the story at all)? The only reason I could think of is either she got drunk and had sex with someone she wouldn't want to marry, or... Well, she was forced the old-fashioned way.

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#4992: Sep 3rd 2015 at 9:52:55 PM

@Marq: I'm just assuming that SCE!Asuka never gave a damn about getting married.

@Night: Is it safe to take that as referring to both the Megazord vs Sachiel and to the Nanoha thing? Or just the Nanoha thing?

@amita: I have no objections to that dialogue.

_____

So, Shinji needs a Device. He's going to be assigned a semi-generic one, that can serve as a mission recorder, as well as scan shit (which will be particularly needed for the mission he is about to embark on).

For the sake of remaining inconspicuous, I'm thinking it takes the form of a wristwatch.

Marq, Night, you guys have name suggestions?

edited 3rd Sep '15 10:49:28 PM by EvaUnit01

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#4993: Sep 3rd 2015 at 10:55:19 PM

... S 3 P?

Chrono's 1st device also pretty standard, doesn't have a cool name or that (S 2 U).

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#4994: Sep 3rd 2015 at 11:02:18 PM

You're on the right track, Shinji's device shouldn't have a cool name...

idea

Going to call it N3I, just to see how many readers can pick up that it's a reference to Near-Third Impact...

Anyway, now I have to write a scene or two of Slice of Life, to showcase how Shinji's relationships with his adopted [extended] family on Mid-Childa have developed.

edited 3rd Sep '15 11:14:36 PM by EvaUnit01

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#4995: Sep 3rd 2015 at 11:59:25 PM

Just the Nanoha thing. No comment on the megazord thing.

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#4996: Sep 4th 2015 at 4:16:18 AM

Wait, then what do you mean by "she got her name from Kyoko's dad Albrecht"?

I meant her middle name.

... And hold on, are you saying that Asuka had kids out of wedlock for some reason? Why would she not marry whoever her kids' dad is (no idea who it is, since Shinji is by your own admission of little importance to the plot in general and you never talk about what he does in the story at all)? The only reason I could think of is either she got drunk and had sex with someone she wouldn't want to marry, or... Well, she was forced the old-fashioned way.

Asuka had her first kid as a result of SEELE pulling a Medical Rape and Impregnate on her. She didn't want to have it, but raised it anyway. This is eventually revealed to be a case of Laser-Guided Karma and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.

Unknown to her, that kid had a twin due to it being standard procedure during IVF to extract and fertilize multiple eggs so that spares are available in case the first implantation attempt fails. Since SEELE no longer had access to Asuka or her kid, they used one of the spares instead and raised it as a Child Soldier. Later, once the kid pulls a Heel–Face Turn, Asuka and co. forge her a false identity as a distant relative of Asuka, using Kyoko's family name, so that people won't discriminate against her for being tank-bred.

The third kid was the only one who was conceived naturally, due to Asuka being so occupied by her first kid starting school that she forgot to take her birth control pills for a few days. Her reaction was pretty much "ah, what the hell; one more wouldn't hurt".

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#4997: Sep 4th 2015 at 4:46:56 AM

I'm just assuming that SCE!Asuka never gave a damn about getting married.
There is such a thing as legal benefits from marriage, particularly w.r.t. to social services and financial support to married couples who have children below the age of majority.

I meant her middle name.
... So he's only part-German? Because Langley is an English name of ultimately British origin, being the name of several cities in the UK (though they probably trace their names' origin to just one older city).

Asuka had her first kid as a result of SEELE pulling a Medical Rape and Impregnate on her. She didn't want to have it, but raised it anyway.
Yup, called it.

This is eventually revealed to be a case of Laser-Guided Karma and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.
... I suppose the LGK and SFP elements are too spoilerific to elaborate on? I don't mind if it is, actually.

Unknown to her, that kid had a twin due to it being standard procedure during IVF to extract and fertilize multiple eggs so that spares are available in case the first implantation attempt fails. Since SEELE no longer had access to Asuka or her kid, they used one of the spares instead and raised it as a Child Soldier. Later, once the kid pulls a Heel–Face Turn, Asuka and co. forge her a false identity as a distant relative of Asuka, using Kyoko's family name, so that people won't discriminate against her for being tank-bred.
... Please tell me that Asuka at least gets to legally adopt this kid as her own child. It would break my heart if she can't call her "my daughter" in public at all, just to keep up the distant-relative ruse.

The third kid was the only one who was conceived naturally, due to Asuka being so occupied by her first kid starting school that she forgot to take her birth control pills for a few days. Her reaction was pretty much "ah, what the hell; one more wouldn't hurt".
Well, at least she has friends and family able to support her through this.

... Who is Asuka's Love Interest, anyway? And you never said why she never gets married.

edited 4th Sep '15 4:48:27 AM by MarqFJA

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#4998: Sep 4th 2015 at 5:46:53 AM

There is such a thing as legal benefits from marriage, particularly w.r.t. to social services and financial support to married couples who have children below the age of majority.

By that point, Asuka and co. are basically stateless persons. Their home state fell apart in civil war and of the two successor states, one considers them terrorists while the other refuses to provide them with asylum in order to avoid antagonizing the other state.

... I suppose the LGK and SFP elements are too spoilerific to elaborate on?

You should know by now that I don't give a damn about spoilers when it comes to gushing about my ideas.

The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy comes from the fact that the kid eventually traveled back in time to save his parents from an Angel, ensuring his own existence (about a year before he was conceived). If Asuka would've had an abortion, he wouldn't have been able to save her hide and she would've died, setting off a chain of events that would've resulted in humanity's destruction.

The Laser-Guided Karma comes from him later consciously pulling a one-way time travel to stop an Angel attempting to Make Wrong What Once Went Right - and, while taking The Slow Path as his future father's surrogate father figure, prevents the death of Asuka's mother in an alternate timeline.

... Please tell me that Asuka at least gets to legally adopt this kid as her own child.

Yes, she does. I'm not sure yet of this kid's age; technically, she was conceived at the same time as her brother but spent a currently-undecided amount of time as a cryo'd embryo before being gestated, so her physical age doesn't match up with her actual age.

... Who is Asuka's Love Interest, anyway?

Kaworu.

And you never said why she never gets married.

Because I'm deliberately keeping it ambiguous whether he loves her back or just using her as an emotional crutch. He actually gets called out on it once - by his estranged son nonetheless, who explicitly asks Kaworu "Are you even capable of feeling love?"

Asuka doesn't care either way, as they're cohabiting anyway.

edited 4th Sep '15 5:48:08 AM by amitakartok

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#4999: Sep 4th 2015 at 6:03:56 AM

By that point, Asuka and co. are basically stateless persons. Their home state fell apart in civil war and of the two successor states, one considers them terrorists while the other refuses to provide them with asylum in order to avoid antagonizing the other state.
... So where are they living, then? I think said something about Nerv becoming the "Sovereign Military Order of Longinus" or the like at some point, and even if that's not where they live... Whoever said that marriage can only happen in a nation-state or some other "conventional" political entity? I would've expected them to go "Screw the Rules, I Make Them!" and hold an official marriage ceremony with documents and everything, because it doesn't matter if every country in the world has rejected them and will not legally recognize their marriage; they found a place/group that's willing to take them in and accept them for what they are, and that's what's important.

The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy comes from the fact that the kid eventually traveled back in time to save his parents from an Angel, ensuring his own existence (about a year before he was conceived). If Asuka would've had an abortion, he wouldn't have been able to save her hide and she would've died, setting off a chain of events that would've resulted in humanity's destruction.
... Oh. Yeah, that's one Stable Time Loop that must remain stable.

The Laser-Guided Karma comes from him later consciously pulling a one-way time travel to stop an Angel attempting to Make Wrong What Once Went Right - and, while taking The Slow Path as his future father's surrogate father figure, prevents the death of Asuka's mother in an alternate timeline.
Wait, you going Multiverse on us without a crossover now? This keeps getting better and better. grin

Yes, she does.
Good. That's what matters to me the most about this. Damn kid deserves to be able to call his mother as such, even if most people would just assume he means it in the adoptive sense.

Kaworu.
... Well, I kinda suspected that. And I'm not surprised, considering there are a few doujin artists out there who made doujinshi featuring this couple, with Asuka being as tsundere to him as she does to Shinji or Mari in the ones where she's paired with them (I don't remember if she's ever paired with Rei, though; prototype!Asuka does get paired with prototype!Rei aka Yui Ichijou in this one 4koma series by one Michiru Shiduki, with lots of WAFF as Asuka finds Yui absurdly cute in her shyness).

Because I'm deliberately keeping it ambiguous whether he loves her back or just using her as an emotional crutch. He actually gets called out on it once - by his estranged son nonetheless, who explicitly asks Kaworu "Are you even capable of feeling love?"

Asuka doesn't care either way, as they're cohabiting anyway.

Oh, OK. That is rather novel.

... Let me guess: You have no intention of actually giving an answer to that, and want the readers to draw their own conclusions.

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#5000: Sep 4th 2015 at 6:57:49 AM

... So where are they living, then?

An Ultraterrestrial Mile-Long Ship with Nanomachines, son!note 

Wait, you going Multiverse on us without a crossover now? This keeps getting better and better.

It's demanded by this verse's rules of time travel. All changes made to the past must be self-consistent (ie. Stable Time Loop) or otherwise preserve causality. Violating causality by making past and future contradict each other results in a universe-annihilating Time Crash. That is why the FAR treat meddling with time as extremely Serious Business grounds for the offender being rendered Ret-Gone.

The only loophole is by creating a different timeline via shunting all changes into a duplicate universe, which requires a Deus ex Machina (ie. direct intervention by the FAR). The reason why Asuka's son gets away with not one but two time travels is because the first was a Stable Time Loop ensuring his own existence and the second was such a massive change that the FAR decided to let it slide this time because they were curious to see what will happen now.

Good. That's what matters to me the most about this. Damn kid deserves to be able to call his mother as such, even if most people would just assume he means it in the adoptive sense.

Asuka actually got the naming idea from Rei.

During SCE, Rei gets the idea of making a clone of herself for use as Cannon Fodder. However, having always wanted children but seemingly being infertile, she ended up too emotionally attached to the clone and talked/guilt-tripped Yui into adopting the clone as Reika Ayanami, using the family name of Yui's mother to forge a false identity as Rei's newly-discovered little sister (Rei herself was adopted the same way when she was a child).

You have no intention of actually giving an answer to that, and want the readers to draw their own conclusions.

To be honest, I don't know the answer either and decided it doesn't really matter.


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