Trope Description Improvement Drive:

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376 MarqFJA10th Jun 2012 01:02:30 PM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
@Septimus: Testosterone Poisoning is the subject of a wider TRS with Rated M for Manly at the moment. Better wait until the results from that effort are finalized first; there seems to be some intention to do some definition/description overhaul, after all.

edited 10th Jun '12 1:03:44 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
377 SeptimusHeap10th Jun 2012 01:07:36 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]That is exactly why I am making the request here. That paragraph there seems more like a deadweight.
378 SeptimusHeap11th Jun 2012 05:44:21 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Doubleposting. As it currently stands, Fetish Fuel is far more a historical note than an actual page. Would this be better?
Fetish Fuel is a fan term used as a label for any element of a story that serves to titillate the reader's erotic or obsessional sensibilities.

The term is not limited strictly to what your dictionary would define as a fetish, but it excludes Explicit Content. It stands in pretty well for the word 'fixation', actually. Both of these sentences mean the same thing:
  • "He has a Light Saber fixation."
  • "Light Sabers are his fetish fuel."

Fetish Fuel Station Attendant is an internal subtrope of this. They are Audience Reactions, whose In-Universe and invoked forms are called Fetish and Fanservice respectively.

Please put examples that don't belong into Fetish or Fanservice on Fetish Fuel Wiki.*
379 SeptimusHeap20th Jun 2012 02:50:45 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Bumping to get opinions about [up]
380 MarqFJA22nd Jun 2012 01:06:10 PM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I don't get how it's become more of a "historical note".
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
381 SeptimusHeap22nd Jun 2012 01:07:53 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]More than half the page is trivia about the history of Fetish Fuel on TV Tropes. Suffice it to say that I don't expect most people going there to come mostly to read that trivia/meta stuff.
382 MarqFJA22nd Jun 2012 01:09:28 PM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Well, here's a vote from me in favor of your suggestion.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
I agree, no need to keep all that historical information.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
I think the general point is a good one, but we probably need to have the historical information somewhere, if only to stem an incessant flow of tropers who haven't been here for a while asking questions like "Hey, where did all the Fetish Fuel stuff go?"
385 SeptimusHeap23rd Jun 2012 08:07:59 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]It's in the hottip.
Freudian Excuse could stand to lose a few paragraphs or at least brother to explain what the trope is first.
387 SeptimusHeap30th Jun 2012 02:37:26 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
I think that swapping the 1st and 2nd paragraph and rewriting them accordingly would suffice.
388 nrjxll30th Jun 2012 08:28:49 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
Is it just me, or does Yoyo Plot Point focus way, way too much on the trope applying to Will They or Won't They??

Edit: On second thought, it has way, way too much of a description, period. Look at that thing.

edited 30th Jun '12 8:30:37 PM by nrjxll

Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
Reincarnation could use a good rewrite.

In some places, it's written from an implicitly Japan-centric viewpoint, but there are a bunch of other problems too:
  • "When it's used in a Western series, the greater religious aspects are often ignored." But the description doesn't actually say what the greater religious aspects are - no reference to the Eastern religion reincarnation concepts, etc.
  • "Usually, just like an Identical Grandson, a reincarnated person looks exactly like their previous self...." Really? Is that true either in the religious/mystical interpretations, or in stories?
  • The description doesn't even give a basic definition of "reincarnation," and indeed uses the term in the first sentence with the assumption that the reader knows what it means.

Tangential unrelated(?) question: Did we used to have a trope called Karmic Resurrection? If so, what happened to it? Was it renamed to Reincarnation? That might explain some of the oddities of the description.
I think Walking Swimsuit Scene could use a fair bit of help. The description is pretty bare… which is fitting, I guess, but not really good form.
391 DragonQuestZ6th Jul 2012 12:50:44 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Not sure if this has been brought up before, but the description on Blasphemous Boast makes it look like it's about a stock phrase. TRS decided it should be any time someone makes a boast comparing self or someone/thing else to a deity (which would make Bigger Than Jesus a Sub-Trope, not a compare trope), and the description needs to reflect that.

edited 6th Jul '12 12:51:15 PM by DragonQuestZ

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
392 SeptimusHeap6th Jul 2012 03:56:48 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Something needs to be done about the Real Life chit-chat in Jail Bait's description. And by "needs to be done" I mean that if I have to do it, I am just going to blow all that nonsense to hell and back.
393 nrjxll6th Jul 2012 04:22:38 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
Well, I'm not going to stop you.
394 Komodin6th Jul 2012 04:26:35 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Sonic Wiki Curator of TV Tropes
[up][up] Eh, I saved you the trouble and axed it myself.
395 MarqFJA7th Jul 2012 01:12:34 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Rule #786 of the Trope Repair Shop: If a Real Life example section is proving to be very problematic, just nuke the section. cool
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
396 Nohbody7th Jul 2012 05:27:46 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ Except the problem child was in the description, not the examples list. tongue
397 MarqFJA7th Jul 2012 05:43:50 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Whoops. Shows me not to fast-read too fast.

How much of it can be put in an Analysis subpage?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
398 SeptimusHeap7th Jul 2012 01:46:42 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Rather, it would go to Useful Notes - if we need one for ages of consent.
399 DragonQuestZ7th Jul 2012 02:36:23 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Now would it be okay for me to fix the Blasphemous Boast page?
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
400 SeptimusHeap11th Jul 2012 06:18:01 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
The first paragraph of Ensemble Darkhorse would be better off at the bottom of the description.

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