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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#351: May 11th 2012 at 7:07:05 AM

Oh, he doesn't mean Real Life examples. There's only one of those. The description is ranting about Real Life legalities. That needs to be axed.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#352: May 15th 2012 at 8:16:47 AM

For reference, though, there's a thread for NRLEP.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#354: May 15th 2012 at 2:34:34 PM

Should this be:

This is also known as "Somewhere A Psychologist Is Crying" and is a subtrope of Hollywood Psych and Small Reference Pools. Whenever psychology comes up in media, it will always use archaic/obsolete models like the Freudian one.

The cause of this trope is obvious: while it may be more factually accurate to determine that The Sociopath has no empathy because of a dodgy prefrontal cortex, it makes a much interesting story to say it is due to him being beaten by his father, misunderstood by everyone around him, and rejected from art school. A schizophrenic being treated with anti-psychotic drugs is unremarkable; one being cured by finally confronting the neighbour who raped her is triumphant. For that matter, biological treatment (e.g., drugs) is easy, fast and practical but boring, while mental asylums suck; Character Development-based treatment (e.g., psychoanalysis and humanistic therapies) might take time but brings contemplation, epiphany and triumphant catharsis with it.

Also see Freudian Couch. Freud Was Right sounds as if it might refer to this trope, but actually refers to a still more Flanderized understanding of Freud—the idea that our subconscious id is nothing more or less than our inner pervert, providing a constant litany of crude sexual thoughts.

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edited 15th May '12 2:44:26 PM by SeptimusHeap

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#355: May 15th 2012 at 2:40:59 PM

That's pretty good. Second sentence is ungrammatical - extra "the".

edited 15th May '12 2:41:18 PM by Fighteer

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#356: May 15th 2012 at 2:50:58 PM

Swapped the shortened form in and moved the other stuff to Analysis. Incidentally, this trope seems to be a bit wider than just Freud - which is why I reduced most Freud stuff a bit, if you don't mind.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#358: May 16th 2012 at 10:56:01 AM

Speed Sex's description is mostly a long description about the real life causes of this scenario and tips on how to avoid it, instead of being about how it is portrayed in fiction. TV Tropes Is Not A Sex Advice Site, and it might violate our new No Lewdness Rule. The examples are fine, but the description needs a major chop back.

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#359: May 16th 2012 at 11:21:42 AM

[up]Would it look if I chopped everything between the first (along with removing the real life mention), last and second to last paragraphs?

edited 16th May '12 12:03:15 PM by Oreochan

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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#360: May 16th 2012 at 2:39:50 PM

[up] I think that would work.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#361: May 16th 2012 at 6:16:06 PM

Which parts can be shunted to the Analysis tab?

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jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#362: May 19th 2012 at 10:42:57 AM

Any objections to removing all the real life stuff in the description of Speed Sex and replacing it with something like "Of course, this depiction of sex falls strongly into Artistic License – Biology."?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#363: May 19th 2012 at 10:43:31 AM

[up]Nope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#364: May 20th 2012 at 2:26:56 AM

... how in the world does it fall into Artistic License – Biology? Premature ejaculation is a real-world problem.

jkbeta from right behind you Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#365: May 20th 2012 at 3:27:39 AM

Premature ejaculation is a real-world problem, but not in the way it's commonly depicted in media.

DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#366: May 20th 2012 at 5:04:46 AM

[up]Fair enough. I'm female, so I'm blessed with ignorance on the topic.

djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#367: May 20th 2012 at 8:06:27 AM

How about we replace that line with something like this:

"While this can be a problem for men in Real Life, it tends to be exagerated in fiction, mostly for purpose of comedy."

Edit: I made that change since it seems no one objects to it.

edited 23rd May '12 4:25:15 PM by djbj

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#368: May 26th 2012 at 5:15:43 PM

Robot Dog's description looks like a stub.

CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#369: May 27th 2012 at 1:35:51 PM

Too Soon could use a little help. I'm not sure what needs to be done, but something needs to happen.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#370: Jun 8th 2012 at 8:26:15 PM

Exists a giant analysis between the word "examples" and the actual examples in Men Are the Expendable Gender.

edited 8th Jun '12 8:26:49 PM by MagBas

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#371: Jun 8th 2012 at 8:39:02 PM

[up] That was a very easy fix. I simply moved the analysis to Analysis/.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#372: Jun 8th 2012 at 8:40:02 PM

Aren't all sex tropes NRLEP now anyway?

The child is father to the man —Oedipus
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#373: Jun 8th 2012 at 10:46:32 PM

[up] Huh? What are you referring to?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#374: Jun 9th 2012 at 10:39:27 AM

As part of the A Worldwide Punomenon TRS thread, I've created Pun, but it desperately needs some expansion.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#375: Jun 10th 2012 at 4:04:04 AM

Can we get rid of the first two paragraphs (the one-sentence one is the second one) of Testosterone Poisoning, please?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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