Guesses related to characters in the Marines and the World Government go here.
- If that was the case, he'd elicit more Sympathy for the Devil after crossing the Moral Event Horizon, which isn not currently the case.
- Oda often introduces villains as pure evil to rile up the audience and then flesh out their characters after their defeat. We just haven't seen his side of the story yet.
- It would quite reasonably explain Akainu's Inspector Javert and Knight Templar tendencies where pirates are concerned, and why he embodies the Marines' "Absolute Justice" as much as he does—perhaps at some point in his past, likely back when he was still a rookie Marine or even before he joined up, pirates murdered someone close to him (a family member, a best friend, or even a role model), and that incident caused Akainu to see all pirates as worthy of execution. And to expand a little further on this WMG, it could be that, unfortunately, over the years his hatred of them got so twisted to the point that he began to perceive anyone who objected to his methods of pirate-hunting even a little bit as equally deserving of death, such as when he turned his fury on Marines who wanted to leave the Marineford battle due to being demoralized and would have killed Coby for speaking out about the war's pointlessness if not for Shanks's intervention. However, it really wouldn't explain his willingness to blow up a passenger-ship on the off-chance that one of the Oharan scholars MIGHT have sneaked on board to escape the Buster Call that day.
- We seen a picture of him as a child. He looked battered and had blood on his shorts and a knife. There also the fact he had a marine hat on him with justice writing on the front.
- It certainly wouldn't be the first time Oda introduced a villain as being exceptionally vile, only to reveal real-life years later that the villain in question had a very believable Freudian Excuse. Arlong and his crew, for instance, were introduced as racist Fishmen who would enslave innocent islanders, kill a woman in front of her children, and kidnap one of those children before subjecting her to emotional, psychological, and at times physical abuse for the next eight years. Only long after the fact did we get the reveal that Arlong and company were lashing out due to the death of their captain and father-figure, and most if not all of them had been subject to years of slavery and racist abuse by humans prior to that. In light of that, whatever Akainu's Freudian Excuse might be will possibly be on similar tear-jerking and tragic grounds, in which case he may well be someone who Jumped Off The Slippery Slope.
- Going by Sakazuki's apparent age, he was almost certainly a child when the Rocks Pirates were rampaging across the world. Given his bloody design as a kid, he was involved in a lot of combat whether by choice or not. That alone would explain why he has no tolerance for pirates: He's seen the absolute horror they can inflict firsthand.
- Why Akainu came personally for the trade
- Why he didn't torch the island in an attempt to kill all the pirates
- Why he wasn't his usual heartless [shower] self
- Why the BB crew ransomed her instead of killing her
- Why there's a constantly apparent age gap between them (she never seems to want to go older)
- Why she's so good at acting immature
- How?
- What hurts this theory is that if anyone was going to kill a family member for being a pirate, its Akainu, and the fact that Blackbeard was shocked to see the Admiral when he showed up. Blackbeard would've seen that coming. I don't buy it, I think its something bigger... (See bottom of page.)
- Jossed — her father is Bartholomew Kuma, who was a Warlord of the Sea at the time and had presumably made some deals for her safety.
- Why not? Even Crocodile, Enel, Wapol and Rob Lucci relatively had a 'happy' ending.
- Except that, when you think of it, cold is more limited than heat. What good would -200 degrees get to you against 10.000 degrees or more?
- Just because he's only been shown to freeze water and people so far does not mean he only has that much freezing power. Who knows, maybe he's perfectly able to take out 10.000 degrees worth of heat from Akainu's magma. (throwing physics completely out of the window, but it's One Piece anyway) Besides if the difference in power is really that large, how could Aokiji survive during the extremely long duel?
- Also, Magma is 1300C , nowhere near as hot as Serius A
- Knowing One Piece, it's entirely possible that Aokiji can reach, or get damn near, Absolute Zero.
- It wouldn't even defy physics (at least, not anymore than being MADE OF ICE already does). Ice at Absolute Zero just means Aokiji would be creating water particles with no energy. Of course, upon exposure to the world they would gain energy, but depending on how long it is before it hits you, it would still be well below 200 deggrees C. Akainu, on the other hand, creates rock partickles with LOADS of enery, but you can't compare how far below 0 degrees Aokiji is with how far above it Akainu is. While 0 degrees is when ice turns back into water, magma turns back to rock at variable rates depending on the rocksin it, but magma isn't actually fully molten (especially as he's using it like a solid projectile). So the temperature of it would be maybe 1,200 degrees, but would turn back to rock fairly easily. So it's arguble which would win.
- Most magma from deep in the mantle has a highly mafic composition, but as it rises and begins to include remelted minerals from the rock above and around, it builds a higher silica content. The most basaltic and ultramafic magmas, according to Bowen's reaction series, contain minerals such as olivine, pyroxines, and plagioclase feldspar. These are the minerals which crystallize out of the melt first (or re-melt last) at a temperature of about 1200 degrees Celsius. However, basaltic magmas tend to be very oozy and liquid. They flow easily and are less explosive due to trapped gas and volatiles being able to escape with little effort. Hawaiian lava flows of pahoehoe and aa are the best examples of this. Yet from what I've seen in the manga, Akainu seems to like making more...solid projectiles or fists with his magma. In that case, I suspect a far more felsic composition. A magma rich in silica quartz is much more viscous than a basaltic magma. The silicon-oxygen tetrahedra in the melt cause other atoms to form sticky chains, which would make this rhyolitic magma much easier to hold a shape such as a fist. It also traps gas bubbles more readily, causing it to be more prone to explosive eruptions. If we assume the most extreme, a rhyolitic magma made of pure melted quartz, it would require a temperature of about 600 degrees Celsius in order to begin crystallizing into solid quartz. Most magmas range from around 700 to 1300 degrees Celsius, with basaltic magma tending to be hotter than rhyolitic. So assuming Akainu uses the maximum temperature of 1300 degrees (as temperature also plays a role of how sticky or fluid a magma is), then it ultimately boils down to the mineral composition of the magma in question to determine how much Akoji would need to chill it before it crystallized into solid rock. That's not even factoring in that some of the ice would obviously melt, and the liquid water would prompt hydromagmatic eruptions of the magma. Of course, I'm not sure if it's better to be hit by a cold, solid rock than by a hot, molten one considering that both have been known to kill volcanologists in real life.... ... Apologies for the wall of text, I need to stop browsing TV tropes after my geology lectures.
- Just because he's only been shown to freeze water and people so far does not mean he only has that much freezing power. Who knows, maybe he's perfectly able to take out 10.000 degrees worth of heat from Akainu's magma. (throwing physics completely out of the window, but it's One Piece anyway) Besides if the difference in power is really that large, how could Aokiji survive during the extremely long duel?
- And now chapter 658 is out, Punk Hazard is the site of Akainu's and Aokiji's battle which was so cataclysmic it permanently changed the weather. It seems this WMG might be right, as the cold and hot sides are treated as equal opposites rather than the hot side destroying the cold one.
- Garp's son is Public Enemy #1.
- Garp's grandson is a pirate with a mid-nine-digit bounty who has defeated Cipher Pol 9 as well as multiple Warlords. He also broke into Impel Down to retrieve Ace, and gave the World Government hell at Marineford.
- Garp also raised the son of Gold Roger (aiding and abetting an enemy of the state).
- Not to mention that Sakazuki killed Garp's adopted grandson, which would very easily make the feeling mutual.
- Well now we have the next user of mera-mera, I support this WMG.
- Pardon me for sounding passive-aggressive. The whole point of the Magu Magu no Mi being superior to the Mera Mera no Mi was that Akainu was just stronger than Ace by a mile, and yet this theory takes this as a huge plot point for a major villain's death. Also, we're gonna have Akainu, who happens to arguably be Luffy's most personal opponent yet—he's the only villain to have ever scarred Luffy for heaven's sake!—sidelined to someone who wasn't even there for Ace's death. I bet Sabo doesn't even know it was Akainu who killed Ace, all he knows is that Ace died at Marineford.
Akainu has shown that he hates being under the Celestial Dragons. It's possible he's eventually going to turn against them and the rest of the World Government in a coup and establish a military dictatorship with the marines.Plus, every other decision made by the Government following the Marineford war have backfired on them. Why not one more?
- Given that the Revolutionary Army is infiltrating the Reverie, specifically to take out the Celestial Dragons, this one might come to a head very soon.
As of this writing, Akainu has been seething at his desk for months and his bosses are treading on what few actual principles he has, and it's unlikely Oda isn't going to put more on his plate before his time in the series is over, especially not where Luffy and Sabo are concerned. This could all be leading up to a moment where Akainu, licking his wounds after his recent devastating defeat, happens upon the truth that Imu is the true ruler of the World Government. The revelation that he's been lied to for most his life might prove to be the straw that breaks the camel's back, throwing himself at Imu out of blind rage only to get brutalized by the same power that made Sabo bleed, ending Akainu's life in a way not dissimilar to what he did to Ace. However, any catharsis this might bring about could be weakened if Imu proves themself to be more vile than Akainu by a significant margin, and considering they're arguably responsible for him in the first place...
That, or Akainu somehow lives. I mean, he's already stupid powerful and people rarely die outside of flashbacks anyway.
- I fully agree that Imu's existence is going to cause some serious upheaval in the Marines command structure. We're talking mass desertions at least. Whether or not Akainu will blow his stack and try to take them out will depend heavily on how the news is broken.
- Actually, I think Akainu can do a version of that already. That said, with them and the Shichibukai, such characters will not likely get such a massive boost as most seem to be at the zenith of their powers, unless Fleet Admiral Whoever demands it, but the slope for Luffy and Co is high enough as it is.
- Jossed...sort of. Aokiji (Kuzan) has left the Marines and Akainu (Sakazuki) is the new Fleet Admiral. None of the three pre-timeskip Admirals have shown to have increased fighting capabilities, though Kuzan has apparently learned much over the past two years.
- Or he already has in the past, and we get a flashback of it sometime in the future.
- Would it be too bold to say that as soon as I read the chapter, I saw Aokiji as a crewmember? He's certainly got a personality that wouldn't seem too out of placenote , and the Straw Hats do lack a Logia crewmember...
- While certainly not impossible (for the moment), that would necessitate Aokiji being given all sorts of things in common with the Straw Hats: a Dark and Troubled Past, a dream to motivate him to go with them, and an actual team-up scene (which we haven't gotten yet, anyway).
- He could fulfill the role of an uncle in the Straw Hat "family," however.
- Why is it that people have forgotten that Aokiji killed Saul right in front of Robin, nearly killed Robin herself and participated in the death of Ace?, while its likely that he will join the Strawhat's massive army of friends in what i predict as being the massive final battle to take down the government, there is no way that Luffy would ask him to join the crew.
- While certainly not impossible (for the moment), that would necessitate Aokiji being given all sorts of things in common with the Straw Hats: a Dark and Troubled Past, a dream to motivate him to go with them, and an actual team-up scene (which we haven't gotten yet, anyway).
- The theory seems a lot more unlikely now that it's been made known that Aokiji is allied with Blackbeard, AKA Luffy's nemesis.
- Yeah, but black hole's also pull EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE! People seem to think that BB will obliterate Kizaru, but there's no reason for this belief. BB power is over GRAVITY, not the effects of a black hole, so I actually believe that Kizaru will be the only one who is invulnerable to his ability, as it requires enormous gravity, on the scale of pulling STARS, to affect light with gravity, and I don't think BB has that kind of juice. BB named one of his attacks "Black Hole" but that doesn't mean he is one. Even if his powers affect Kizaru, they'll only affect him as much as they effect everyone else, and we've already seen WB butcher BB when he was half dead, so Kizaru could easily do the same.
- They are a normal sized person with realistic proportions and attractive no matter what gender they have. All admirals have been massive and increasingly realistic looking so why not?
- Ryokugyu will have no devil fruit or special racial ability, just haki and martial arts. Master of all previously seen martial arts in the series and uses them better than anybody else.
- Alternatively, Ryokugyu will have eaten a Zoan fruit, rounding out a trio with Fujitora's Paramecia and Kizaru's Logia.
- Both Jossed — he ate the Woods-Woods fruit, a forest Logia.
- Ryokugyu will be a woman. Why not? We have seen so far in the one piece franchise we have seen 7 male current or former admiral so one female would be a bit fair.
- Jossed.
- Ryokugyu will possess all three Haki's.
- Ryokugyu will be the child of Akainu or have some connection to him to hint at his past.
- Fujitora saw the truth with his own eyes, but was so disgusted by it that he couldn't look at the world the same way.
- It's been said that Wano and Kano were recently in combat. It would make sense if the World Government decided to conscript the strongest warriors from each country as ambassadors and as a token of goodwill, as representatives of both countries in both terms of military might and power. Suppose the World Government made a compromise that in exchange for the countries' best warriors, they would meet the needs of both warring nations, thus bringing about peace. The only problem is one of these Admirals is a known dissenter against the World Government. Fujitora, while the other probably took on the position as Admiral to keep a close watch on their nation with Kaido on the prowl- hence why Ryokugyu has yet to appear, due to keeping a close eye on Wano. Given how theories abound that Ryukogyu is modeled after a famous samurai, it makes sense that this character would show up in Wano, as it would be the perfect time to introduce them. On top of that, we have not seen them in action, and perhaps that's because this Admiral has decided to become a squatter. Sure, the Admirals have just about free clearance to come and go across the world, and all of them have done so thus far, but perhaps one of them is more of a seat-warmer who is a symbol of broader scope authority within their homeland. Maybe Ryokogyu thought that becoming an Admiral and all the power it came with would be enough to check Kaido's threat, and the idea of having the ability to authorize a Buster Call if necessary as a last resort would make even an Emperor like him think otherwise. Finally, Wano's borders are closed to the world, so Ryokugyu might be adhering to that policy by choosing to stay inside the country and show loyalty towards their homeland and not be a lapdog of the World Government.
He's even some sort of Devil Fruit (perhaps a Plant Logia) that enables him to perform photosynthesis, thus explaining why he doens't need to eat, he makes his own food. In addition, it probably has given him green coloration, hence the Green Bull.
- Fujitora: "Does the World Government… pretend to be a God or something?!"
- This one seems pretty Jossed. Kuzan himself says he lost the duel and his leg with Akainu choosing to spare him. If that really was a ploy, then Kuzan is an absolute legend for sacrificing his leg just to keep up a ruse.
- Of course, this assumes that Vegapunk is a villain. Considering the fact that he complied with Kuma's request to allow him to help the Straw Hats one last time, this seems unlikely.
- Badass is a matter of opinion but he is a Cyborg of sorts — he replaced the top of his skull with an antenna connecting him to a database representing his brain.
- While I wouldn't put it past Vegapunk to conceive of a way to duplicate a fruit, that would only work for Chopper's case if true. It's true that Vegapunk's intelligence could be the result of Hito Hito enlightenment but I imagine a duplicate fruit could only be created once before it would muddled with established devil fruit rules. The Awakened Demon guards are most likely human guards that ate Zoan and then awakened by Vegapunk. Their human/animal appearance is similar to Chopper's monster form, Chopper himself being a human/animal hybrid that knows of tweaking Zoan transformations.
- The latest SBS has told us that there are different models of the Hito Hito no Mi, just like other Zoans, so it's possible if Vegapunk is indeed a possessor of it, he has a different brand of person then Chopper and Sengoku.
- While I wouldn't put it past Vegapunk to conceive of a way to duplicate a fruit, that would only work for Chopper's case if true. It's true that Vegapunk's intelligence could be the result of Hito Hito enlightenment but I imagine a duplicate fruit could only be created once before it would muddled with established devil fruit rules. The Awakened Demon guards are most likely human guards that ate Zoan and then awakened by Vegapunk. Their human/animal appearance is similar to Chopper's monster form, Chopper himself being a human/animal hybrid that knows of tweaking Zoan transformations.
- Subverted; he ate the Brain-Brain Fruit, a Paramecia which lets his brain store an indefinite amount of information and recall everything.
- On an alternate note, Vegapunk doesn't actually want to serve the World Government at all and is being forced to conduct his research and experiments against his own will. Sentomaru isn't his bodyguard, he's more like a jailor. Then again, I also have the theory that...
- I thought that at first, but I reckon if Vegapunk was being held against his will, he would have done a Daedalus by now and invented a way to escape.
- Very, very, VERY plausible, when you consider that he seemed willing to agree to Bartholomew Kuma's deal to turn him into a complete cyborg in exchange for implanting a hidden command to protect the Thousand Sunny until the Straw Hats returned from their respective locations following the Time Skip.
- Jossed — he's an Expy of Einstein.
- Could you elaborate? Do you mean he will be like Phineas or Ferb? Dr. Doofenshmirtz? What exactly do you mean?
His birthplace is called Baldimore, and he's a scientist. I'm willing to bet that it will be some sort of gag upon introducing him that he's discovered so much about devil fruits, but the one thing he's been trying to figure out is a way to prevent male pattern baldness. I could totally see this happening.
- Jossed.
- Some do have visible muscles and the Gandhi-looking guy carries a sword. It's plausible.
- Confirmed. All five are Devil Fruit users and Warcury can use Conqueror's Haki.
- As of Chapter 1108, things aren't looking well for Saturn. Maybe he'll turn out to be the weakest of the Five Elders?
- And Mihawk's affiliation with the Shichibukai is partly, perhaps even wholly, out of lingering affection for his old sensei.
- This explains why they appear the same age now as when they gave the order for Ohara to be destroyed.
- Mihawk and Im have the same eyes.
- Mihawk's sporadic appearances suggest that this is when he's playing the role of Im.
- Adding on to this, he's also the only Warlord who lacks a crew and power base of any kind which is peculiar given the purpose of the warlords is to keep other pirates in check.
- Shanks in spite of being a Yonkou is able to arrange meetings with the Gorsei and is shown respect by them. It could just be his friendly nature allows him to parlay even with the government OR being the former sparring partner to the world's ruler gives him special privileges if not a secret agreement to keep the other Emperors in check.
- Big problem though. We have seen a younger Mihawk in flashbacks and his age is listed. While Im is likely a immortal from the time of the WG founding (Though his position could in fact be hereditary. Im being immortal is only speculation at this point.)
- Oda has lied about character information before to hide surprises, so that age is not one-hundred percent reliable.
- Alternately Mihawk is Ims son, it would fit all the above including his younger age in addition he is based on Dracula, whos name literally translates to "son of the dragon" , a fitting name for the son of the highest celestial dragon, Im is also treated as some sort of god, and Mihawk carrys around a cross necklace and a cross shaped sword, a symbol associated with the son of god, and when carrying his sword on his back it even resembles the way Jesus had to carry his own cross
Basically, Dragon somehow falls in love with and courts the secret leader of the World Government, she becomes pregnant with his child. However, because of their opposed worldviews, they come to blows and split around the time Im gives birth to non-identical twins at Foosha Village. Im tries to leave with her newborn children against her partner's wishes, but only manages to take the girl, having to flee before she can get the boy too, who remains with Dragon.
On Im's side, she eventually decides it's unfitting for the ruler of the world to have a child running around, either selfishly or because she'd rather have her daughter raised elsewhere, has her sent away to Okyol Kingdom or thereabouts, unaware (or perhaps all too aware) of the war about to go down there which would eventually lead to the girl being raised by Bell-mere. Whether or not the name Nami was given to her by Im or by someone else afterwards is unclear, but it was after Dragon and her parted ways, meaning he has no way of identifying his other child (something that Nami thinking she's a year or two older than she actually is makes even more difficult), so has instead opted to not speak of her, but may tell Luffy he has a sister when he finally sees his son again.
On Dragon's side, he eventually leaves Luffy alone in Foosha Village, either because the government is after him or for other reasons, unaware that the boy's eventually dream of being the Pirate King would unknowningly lead him to recruit his lost sister onto his crew...
As I said, a really strange idea, but it stuck with me.
- Jossed — they and the Five Elders each show some form of transformation when they attack Sabo during Cobra's murder, along with some form of Tendrils of Darkness.
- Jossed
Think the Aparoid Queen from Star Fox: Assault. When the Straw Hats face Imu, they'll all succumb to their power and be faced with the voices/faces of those whom they cherished in their lives basically telling them they're worthless or have failed them.
- St. Jaygarcia Saturn's fruit is Model Satan. Because of the pun.
- Jossed it's the Ushi Ushi/Gumo Gumo no Mi:Gyuki
- Warcury's DF is that of the Zou Zou no Mi: Model Garuda
- Mars could have eaten the Tori Tori no Mi: Fenghuag Model
- Nusjuro's devil fruit is the Hito Hito no Mi: Asura Model
- Peter's fruit power might be the Hito Hito no Mi Umibozu Model
Are all Awakened Mythical Zoans, along with Imu's. And Awakening a Mythical Zoan is how they got their rank as an Elder in the first place.
- Saturn's is the Spider-Spider Fruit, Model: Tsuchigumo (purse web spider)
- Another has the Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Ushi-Oni, while another has a mythical Bird-Bird Fruit.
- Saturn is most likely the one with the Ushi-Oni fruit
- Confirmed as of Chapter 1094
- Warcury has the Horse-Horse Fruit: Model: Baku due to his sillhouette having tiny ears and huge tusks, which resembles the Baku the most out of all the Yokai.
- Mars's devil fruit could be the Tori Tori no Mi:Model Suzaku, Nusjuro's is Hito Hito no Mi:Shinigami Model and Ju Peter's the Hito Hito no Mi;Model Boogeyman
Saturn summoning himself to the island through a pentagram is like nothing we've seen before in One Piece. His very arrival sent shivers down the spines of powerful haki users. Perhaps the Five Elders aren't just wielders of particularly nasty Devil Fruits, but the Devils the Fruits are named for to begin with.
Remembering Greek Mythology in play, after Uranus was overthrown by Kronos, Kronos' reign didn't last all that long and was seized by none other than Zeus, whose reign is the most detailed. Zeus divided the Earth between himself, Poseidon, and Hades; Poseidon and Hades correlate to Neptune and Pluton. Oda may very well replicate something similar to that while cutting out the middle man by having it that while the Ancient Weapons are in an all out attack with Neptune and Pluton either destroying or severely damaging Uranus, Ju Peter will see that as the perfect opportunity to attempt to seize power.
Saint Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro appears to be the one with the angriest expression of them all, is considerably callous in comparison to the other Gorosei excluding Jaygarcia, and considering how the planet Venus is known for having acid rain, it could play as a motif for V Nusjuro himself.
Perhaps Imu found the Gorosei as children and slowly manipulated them into serving Imu and believing their ideology.
Considering how we're seeing the Straw Hats going in reverse planetary order with Pluton, then Neptune, then Uranus (In the form of the Mother Flame), and Jaygarcia Saturn, not only will they most likely encounter each Gorosei in reverse planetary order, but it also means that Mercury (As Warcury) will be the last one the Straw Hats face off. Further evidence is how his beast form is most likely a Baku, a yokai known for feeding on dreams, and since dreams are very important in One Piece, what could be a more perfect evil than something that exists to destroy dreams? Lastly, the dream-destroying could even be literal in that Warcury may be helping Imu by feeding on their constant nightmares of dying (Given how Imu parallels Doflamingo the most of all the villains, who suffered nightmares of his childhood torment).
- Whenever the Elders appear in the story, Warcury is more often than not at the center, lightly hinting at a slightly superior status - the first among equals, as it were.
- In chapter 1110, as the Elders enter the fray and begin attacking Luffy and the heroes, Warcury is the only one to do absolutely nothing on-screen, indicating that Oda may be saving him for a little later and with a little more focus in the long run.
- His name is "Top" man.
Because why would Oda miss the opportunity to use another funny pervert trope? This is a shonen after all!
- Although considering how vile the Five Elder Planets are, if it does happen, it would be more Played for Horror rather than for comedy.
They just haven't bothered to do so, given how much they look down on others.
For example, Saint Ethanbaron V. Nusjoro being the Bakotsu, a skeleton horse yokai that was burned to death, and having a similar freezing power as Brook, may have a weakness to fire.
Considering how Ch 1113 confirms that the world is going to sink into the ocean and the Gorosei are set on hiding that information and Joy Boy had the Noah, it's very likely that Imu attempted to destroy the entire world to make it their own, but Joy Boy saved more "undesirables" that Imu wasn't aiming for with Noah. And considering how this manga loves to repeat certain themes with the villains as well, Imu could reveal to be parallelling Enel and Doflamingo by having it that Imu now plans to either do it all over again or to go even further and leave absolutely no survivors except for themself.
It's quite possible that had they never gotten the immortality surgery, they would have died from using their powers to flood the world... but that immortality didn't exactly mean they would be at full strength again right away, and so, is barely moving because they are still physically weakened from using that much power long ago.
I doubt Imu is capable of love and switching bodies isn't exactly a good idea when your powers don't come with that. If anything, I think it's because not only would they want a companion in a similar manner as Peter Pan and Wendy, but also to ensure that they have the means of accessing the Dance Powder, and Imu will use it to help with creating a massive flood to wipe out everyone.
Just a throw-in that during the eventual fight against Imu, they will be underwater without dying due to immortality and their Umibozu powers... but either Sabo or Akainu will use their heat powers to boil Imu while they're still underwater, causing great pain and leading to a Villainous Breakdown of frightening proportions.
- Saint Jaygarcia Saturn:
- The Bully, Dirty Coward, Paper Tiger due to seeming to especially go after those who are weaker than him and showing some fear towards those who are clearly stronger than him.
- Saint Ju Peter:
- Saint Marcus Mars:
- Saint Ethanbaron V. Nusjoro:
- Saint Topman Warcury:
- Imu:
- Complete Monster
- Hate Sink: Will likely turn out to be the most depraved and vile villain in all of the series; likely will not be meant to fall under Love to Hate.
- Used to Be a Sweet Kid
- Mortality Phobia
- Face Death with Despair
- Ain't Too Proud to Beg
- Psychopathic Manchild
- Age Without Youth
- Never Grew Up
- Jossed — The now CP0 reconciled with the government at some time during the time skip.
- Confirmed
- While Lucci (and possibly Kaku) rejoined Cipher Pol and became part of CP0, other ex-CP9 members were less forgiving of how they were treated by the government after their escape from Enies Lobby and defected to the Revolutionaries.
- If this prediction is accurate, it would be hilarious because of how 4Kids edited out her 'death'). Pity we'll never see how 4Kids would've dubbed this scene.
- Kuina's father wore glasses, and Tashigi wears them as well. Coincidence? Lots of people start needing glasses during young adulthood. Also, maybe she did break her neck; but, because ''THIS. IS. ONE PIECE'', characters end up surviving bad injuries all the time when they have the sheer will to live. Given the story's history of handling (or avoiding) death and serious injuries, this is plausible.
- The glasses bit is an especially good point. A lot of those little details often end up being crucial...
- Interest in swords isn't the only thing they have in common. The anime changes this and makes her kind of sullen and distant, but she was more open and almost sunny in the original manga in a way that's similar to Tashigi. And it's possible that Smoker unconsciously reminds her of Zoro due to their similar looks and personalities. (Even their Pet the Dog moments are practically identical!) Finally, both characters are named after flightless birds, which was noted in an SBS question. It's a somewhat common trope in anime and manga for two people who are really the same person to have names that are either an alternate reading of the characters in the word or have near-identical or parallel meanings.
- Not to mention having the same birthday.
- Here's another thing: Oda's already done the "Person with coincidental resemblance to another character" thing with Sanji and Duval. It's really, really unlikely he's going to do the same thing twice in this case.
- Last year in American SJ, to celebrate the speed-up of the manga, they had their own SBS-style Q & A. Someone had asked Oda why Tashigi looked like Kuina. His answer: "It's just a coincidence. There's no backstory like Tashigi turns out to be Kuina's sister or something...[Laughs]"
- Because Oda totally has never given misleading answers in the SBS to avoid giving away plot twists. Nope. Never. Who're Ace and Whitebeard again? Seriously, why would Oda spoil what could potentially be one of the most powerful events in the story with an SBS? IMO, I like this guess because like people have mentioned before on this wiki, Zoro never got any confirmation that Kuina cared for him as much as he obviously does for her. (which is conspicuous considering the other crew members' flashbacks) Does wanting that to happen make me too soft-hearted?
- Wasn't trying to prove anything, it just had to do with the topic. I don't care for the Tashigi=Kuina theory.
- Tashigi being Kuina doesn't explain the FUNERAL PROCESSION SCENE in Zoro's back-story; plus it's already been explicitly stated by Oda that the two are not the same person and are not related.
- That funeral procession only happens in anime filler. Not canon. And frankly, given Oda's track record, I strongly suspect he isn't being truthful. Why set up a conflict like this only for it not to lead to a big reveal? That's nothing like OP's typical epic internal logic.
- Jossed. they recently had a cover (somewhere 620-630) where her father places a newspaper (with news about zoro in it) against her tombstone.
- Wasn't trying to prove anything, it just had to do with the topic. I don't care for the Tashigi=Kuina theory.
- Nah, Smoker's just Lawful Stupid that way.
- Also, he is still in his prime at 34/36 years old
- Or he's just genre savvy enough to know that Luffy and his crew are almost always going to be running fighting people much worse than them. While chasing Luffy, he can find and get rid of a lot of terrible pirates and corrupt Marines!
- Impossible. The Pacifistas were being developed even before Wapol started creating his Wapometal. The jury's still out on what the newer models are made of, but the original Pacifistas aren't made of Wapometal.
- As a corollary, the warden's office actually started out at Level 5 but was moved to Level 4, out of symbolism.
- Like a microphone or camera? Alctually, this too hilarious not to be wrong.
- I say Sengoku's hat is actually a hat, except that it ate the gull-gull fruit, and will display its awesome powers at an appropriate moment.
- I have a follow-up WMG to that: Smoker will receive credit for putting an end to Caesar Clown and his Smile production, possibly even taking the credit for what Law will eventually intend to do to Kaido, and become promoted to Admiral, paralleling the end of the Alabasta story. Alternatively...
- Jossed — The Wano situation is a wash for the Government, and the news reports Luffy's hand in it.
- If that happened, Tashigi and his entire crew would follow him as renegades.
- Taking into consideration that Coby has managed to unlock Haki, which is a prerequisite to becoming an Admiral, which is Coby's goal, it's certainly possible that Coby will be, at the very least, one of the last persons Luffy faces...or maybe they'll end up having a relationship akin to Garp and Roger back in the day.
- Afterwords, he will hand himself over to be executed just like Roger because all of that strain that he has put on his body shortened his lifespan to the point where he only has a few months left and he will set about another great age of pirates with his death, thus making the story come full circle.
- I actually believe this considering that Luffy said to Coby after Enies Lobby (Not exact words): "The next time we meet, you are going to be stronger and we will cross fists with each other."
- That next time was at Marineford where he got one shotted by Luffy decking him in a smoke screen.
- As a counterpoint to Tashigi being Kuina theories and Tashigi/Zoro shipping, I theorize that Tashigi and Zoro will eventually develop a platonic relationship after Zoro tells Tashigi more about Kuina.
- With Tashigi being very nice and reasonable but also a bit of an Inspector Javert, I doubt they'll bond just over a talk about Kuina. I could see them platonically bond if her trust in the Marines is shaken just enough (I.E., not enough to make her quit, but enough to make her realize some pirates are good).
We don't know anything at all about Kuina's mother, so maybe it was her initiative to bring her daughter back from the dead by creating her clone and she knew someone who could do so. Someone like Dr. Vegapunk, maybe?
: Tashigi was born 11 months before Kuina. Unless they're both clones of some other person, Tashigi being a clone can be considered Jossed.
Fujitora, Smoker and Garp will resign from the Marines and join Aokiji in forming a splinter faction made up of former Marines and World Government officials who have defected from them because of their corruption and will instead have a desire to expose the World Government. This will enable them to take advantage of disestablishing the Seven Warlord system. Soldiers will wear uniforms similar to the Marines but will differentiate from them with a more vibrant color scheme. The Marine ships will appear with different colors. With this new faction, they will now be able to aid the Straw Hats and the Revolutionaries to take on the World Government.
- Considering what happens to the Kingdom of Lulusia in Chapter 1060 (destroyed by beams of light raining down from some kind of giant dark cloud), it seems to imply that Uranus is under control of Imu, and used to eliminate those who threaten to reveal the truth of the World Government.
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