Tropers / Bejjinks

I'm fairly new but I see that there is a lot of cleanup that needs to be done. Mostly what I see is things like: We already have five tropes that are almost identical except for the name but Bob wants to post a trope that is also almost identical and gives it a new name because he couldn't find the five tropes we already have. Therefore, I'm interested in organizing the tropes in ways that make them easier to find and merging or eliminating the duplicate tropes.

However, I'm still too new to understand how to do this organizing so I'm only going to do little things for now as I learn.

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Inadvertent Entrance Cue

Speak About The Devil replies: 18 Describe a kind of person and an example shows up Already have? Better Name Needs Examples Better Name

(permanent link) added: 2014-07-16 11:01:28 sponsor: bejjinks edited by: Arivne (last reply: 2014-07-17 22:48:51) Add Tag: Someone is talking about a certain kind of person. He or she is not talking about a specific person. Usually it will be a form of criticism such as "You know those people who jump into conversations without knowing what people are talking about" or "You know those people who pick their nose just before shaking your hand". That is the cue for an example to make his appearance. It usually derails the conversation as the people try to politely hide what they were talking about. Can lead to awkwardness if asked, "What were you guys just talking about?" If they say what they were talking about, the example character will be so oblivious that he won't recognize that he's an example. This can also include cases where someone says "There's never a cop when you need one" but only if that's the cue for a cop like character to show up. There is a high probability that said cop will either be A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, a Bad Cop/Incompetent Cop that arrests the heroes instead of the villains, or a competent cop who makes a mistake because he just arrived at the scene which is Not What It Looks Like. Not to be confused with Speak of the Devil where a particular character's name is spoken. Also compare with Inadvertent Entrance Cue where the description or phrase is directly a reference to an individual. It is often associated with the Drop-In Character but it could be any character that fits the description. Examples hide replies replies: 18 added: 2014-07-16 11:44:44 by bejjinks

If we "Already have?" then where. I searched and searched and couldn't find this trope. If you tell me where this trope already is, I'll add a reference to it on the trope Speak Of The Devil and I'll be satisfied. added: 2014-07-16 11:51:56 by Koveras

Please wiki-link Speak of the Devil in the write-up. added: 2014-07-16 11:53:01 by bejjinks

Except I already mentioned how Speak Of The Devil is very different from Speak About The Devil. added: 2014-07-16 12:26:37 by crazysamaritan

1st, your name is bad. 2nd, we wiki-link trope names always when they're referenced. Even when that reference is "this is not that". Please use CamelCase. added: 2014-07-16 12:38:08 by bejjinks

Sorry. This is my first time suggesting a trope and I'm still figuring out how CamelCase works. I'm open to name suggestions. added: 2014-07-16 15:08:41 by DAN 004

This is Description Cut added: 2014-07-16 15:51:17 by bejjinks

No it's not. In Description Cut, the character is not present and is doing the opposite of the description. This trope is when the character shows up and the character matches the description or at least appears to match the description. added: 2014-07-16 16:38:21 by crazysamaritan

You're right about Description Cut, but I'm not entirely clear on why this is not Inadvertent Entrance Cue: In Bride of Frankenstein Elizabeth describes a vision of an evil apparition which will entangle Henry, and says she sees it drawing nearer — nearer — and is immediately answered by the evil Dr. Praetorius knocking at the door. In Dracula's Daughter, just when Dr. Jeffrey Garth asks the question, "What could have made those two small puncture marks over the jugular vein?", a maid announces: "Countess Zalenska!" Done a couple of times with managing agent Bebe on Fraiser: Daphne: Well, I've done enough clothes shopping for your father. I'm pretty good at pretending to like things, no matter how horrifying I find them. (opens door) Bebe, how nice to see you. In The Muppet Show, there was a character named Crazy Harry who would drop in and blow stuff up whenever someone mentioned dynamite or other explosive-related w- "Did someone say 'dynamite'?!" *KABOOM!* In Will and Grace, the arrival of Beverley Leslie was often preceded by such a comment. A specific example is when Jack and Karen were deciding on dessert, and Jack said that he wanted something "small with lady fingers." They often lampshaded it themselves, such as when Will and Grace are considering moving. Will: Do you know what the worst part of living here is? (Jack barges in.) Will: I swear I wasn't gonna say that. It wasn't insulting, but in the pilot episode of Friends, Ross is lamenting his marriage ending. When the others try to tell him to enjoy being single, as soon as he says, "I don't want to be single, I want to be married," Rachel barges into the coffee shop, wearing a wedding dress. Chandler lampshades it, saying "and I just want a million dollars," while staring at the door. added: 2014-07-16 16:59:32 by bejjinks

That is a possibility that I have been debating with myself but if we say that this trope is the same as Inadvertent Entrance Cue, I'd like us to improve the description of Inadvertent Entrance Cue. The description there now is a little vague and misled me to think it was describing something else. added: 2014-07-16 17:02:14 by crazysamaritan added: 2014-07-16 17:39:25 by Waterlily

In Student Bodies, Cody's camara store is held up right before closing. While it's going on, the door opens and the robber says "What kind of idiot comes in to buy film at eight o'clock at night?!" Enter a smiling Victor. added: 2014-07-17 04:00:46 by Arivne

Added punctuation (characters -> character's). Added Examples section. added: 2014-07-17 04:42:50 by Alvin

Does This Count? Live-Action Television: There was a Running Gag on Laverne and Shirley that Laverne or Shirley would say two negative adjectives, like 'sick and disgusting' and Lenny and Squiggy would walk in. added: 2014-07-17 08:49:01 by bejjinks

^Yes it counts. I couldn't remember exactly how it happened in Laverne and Shirley but this is why I thought it might be different from Inadvertent Entrance Cue. Inadvertent Entrance Cue seemed to me to be describing more directly the individual in question where in Laverne and Shirley, they weren't describing Lenny and Squiggy but Lenny and Squiggy showed up as examples anyway. On the other hand, if I'm mistaken about Inadvertent Entrance Cue, I will use the information here to make corrections to that trope instead of creating a new trope. added: 2014-07-17 16:49:47 by DAN 004

Thing is, the "description for the guy" (you get what I mean right?) in IEC can sometimes be too general and yet it can refer to one specific person, while here, the description is always general and the guy can be anyone... added: 2014-07-17 18:25:57 by bejjinks

^Yes, that's it. added: 2014-07-17 21:15:26 by crazysamaritan

Not if you go by the usage in IEC; the Laverne and Shirley example is already there. added: 2014-07-17 22:48:51 by dalek955

Since you're describing a general class of people when the exmple walks in, maybe Speak Of Devils?