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Headscratchers: Disney Animated Canon

  • Are the classic Disney shorts and the Disney Animated Canon films in the same universe? Could you take into account any cameos from film to film (e.g. Belle in Hunchback)? Can stuff like Disneyland's Phillar Magic, that old canadian short with Pinocchio, Snow White and others and basic events where Mickey is seen with Disney films (including Disney products) count? There is House of Mouse, but that might take place in Toontown which, like Roger Rabbit, would take place outside of the shorts and films. Same with Stitch's appearances in films unless they're breaking the fourth wall (?). And Kingdom Hearts is a alternate universe...

  • Is it just me, or do all these animated films seem to have its pacing really pick up in the last third of the movie? After the nice pace of so many of the movies, why is it that some of them feel rather rushed towards the end?
    • The 90's Disney movies have been criticized for being formulaic; whether they are or not is up for discussion, but what is known is that they are always divided in three acts; Act I (there is no issue yet), Act II (the issue arises and creates a dangerous conflict / the villain steps in and endangers the heroes) and Act III (the hero deals with the villain / the lingering danger in an action sequence). Bonus points if before Act I, there's an introduction that tells the tragic tale of how the story came to be (in Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, Hunchback Of Notre Dame, Tarzan...). So I guess your explanation is that the third acts would always have to violently deal with the villain/the issue and complete it quickly enough to not drag out, after the nice pacing and story build-up usually seen in Act II.
    • As additional proof, the third acts don't usually last long. Pocahontas for example had it's third act pretty much stretched out over the course of Savages. Presumably the ones that took the longest are Hunchback and Beauty and the Beast.
    • Renaissance Disney movies that fit into this three-act "cliché" are listed in the note. note 

  • How come almost every disney villain has to die? I mean there's the unspoken rule that most Disney villains have to die.
    • Almost every villain in almost every movie dies.
      • Lady Tremaine, Captain Hook, Cruella de Vil, and Governor Ratcliffe all survived their movies. They were defeated, yes, but none of them died. In addition, none of the villains from Pinocchio died.
      • As did Hans and the Duke of Weselton from Frozen.
      • Villains in Disney movies getting killed is not as common as you might think, in fact it only seems to have become the norm during their 90s renaissance (and even there it's not an absolute rule, as Jafar, Ratcliffe and Hades can attest to). In fact, the only central villains to die before then from what I can gather were the Evil Queen, Maleficent, the Horned King, Ratigan and Sykes. Survivors from before that period include Honest John and Gideon, Stromboli, the Coachman, Monstro, the Headless Horseman, Lady Tremaine, the Queen of Hearts, Captain Hook, Cruella de Ville, Madam Mim, Shere Khan, Prince John, Madame Medusa and Amos Slade.

  • My officially bought reg 2 3d-blu ray of Wreck-It Ralph states on it's spine that it is the 51st Disney Animated Feature, the list on the main page says 52nd. What is going on here? Is there an animated feature that doesn't count in Europe or something?
    • I know some countries leave either Dinosaur or Winnie the Pooh out of the canon, but I don't know which one Europe leaves out.
      • It turns out that both of those were cut, but then we added The Wild as the 46'th feature.

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