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Lydia Rodarte-Quayle

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"I expect to be paid."

Portrayed By: Laura Fraser

Appearances: Breaking Bad | Better Call Saul

"I know it's not exactly my area of expertise, but don't people get killed in prison all the time? I mean, shanked and shivved, and whatnot?"

An executive of Madrigal Electromotive GmbH, a gigantic multinational firm that also helps Gustavo Fring move his product and his money without detection. She works out of the company's office in Houston, Texas.


  • Asshole Victim: Lydia was such a Jerkass that it's hard not to cheer when Walt informs her of her impending slow, painful death over the phone. At the point of the phone call, the only other alternative left is suicide.
  • Bad Boss: Her first impulse whenever something goes wrong is to kill a subordinate. This is so ingrained in her personality that she expects it constantly from the people she works with. When Walt comes up to her in the café in the finale, despite Walt's believable act of being destitute, Lydia wants Todd to kill him.
  • Be Careful What You Wish For: When Mike threatens to kill her early in Season 5, she begs him to leave her body in her home, so that her daughter won't think she's abandoned her, and also to kill her in a way that won't disfigure her body, in order to avoid traumatizing said daughter. In the series finale she gets her wish, courtesy of Walt's ricin, which will give her a slow, lingering death that'll leave her corpse perfectly intact.
  • Big Bad Duumvirate: With Jack Welker during the final few episodes.
  • Big Bad Ensemble: With Jack Welker and Heisenberg during Season 5 as a whole. Walter White's arc is largely disconnected from his alliance with Lydia and the Neo-Nazis.
  • Big Bad Wannabe: She could have been the Big Bad of the series overall, having the capabilities to turn the Cartel's meth-making operation into an intercontinental empire, but she's so craven and spineless that Jack is able to operate as her Dragon-in-Chief, while her personality keeps her from delving too deep into villainous acts herself. This is particularly the case in Season 5B, where she's part of the Big Bad Duumvirate with Jack Welker, motivating the Neo-Nazis to stay in the meth game, but actively avoids having to do any dirty work. Even when Walt takes the time to poison her, she only finds out on complete accident when she tries to call Todd and he picks up instead, meaning it's possible he wasn't even going to bother telling her.
  • Big Fancy House: She sure lives in one.
  • Calming Tea: Lydia's signature drink is chamomile tea with soy milk and Stevia sweetener. Subverted in that the tea does not seem to help the high-strung Lydia relax. If anything, it shows her as rigid and inflexible - it must be chamomile and the sweetener must be Stevia. Walter takes advantage of her predictability to switch a Stevia packet with ricin.
  • Can't Kill You, Still Need You: She forces this kind of scenario on Mike and Walt three times.
  • Chronic Backstabbing Disorder: She has no qualms about betraying and murdering her allies, including selling them out to the DEA to save her own skin.
  • Commuting on a Bus: She tends to appear in matters involving Gustavo Fring and Madrigal Electromotive, but isn't as frequent as the man himself or his underlings.
  • Corrupt Corporate Executive: She helped Gustavo scout out the laundry as an ideal place for his superlab, and later works with Gustavo and later Walt to run the international distribution of crystal meth.
  • Creature of Habit: She seems very pattern-oriented: she has an extremely specific tea order and always sits in the same place at the same cafe. Proves to be her undoing, since all it takes for Walt to poison her is to replace a packet of Stevia with ricin. It doesn't end there. Walt, knowing Lydia's obsession with cleaning up loose ends by making others do the dirty work, intentionally sets himself up for her to enlist Jack's gang so that he can get to them.
  • Cute and Psycho: She is a petite, pretty lady with a fearful and neurotic personality to the point of being a Motor Mouth... and yet she's also a ruthless woman who is eager to have many random people killed just to save herself.
  • Definitely Just a Cold: Walt noted her clockwork drink order at Java Joe's. She unwittingly ingests ricin which was swapped for her sweeteners. Oh, Crap!.
    Walt: (over the phone) How are you feeling? Kind of under the weather? Like you've got the flu?
  • Didn't Think This Through:
    • For how paranoid and careful Lydia is for the most part, her decision to sit at the exact same public place and order the same specific drink every time she meets a criminal associate makes her a sitting duck for someone to analyze her otherwise unpredictable actions. Predictably, it also makes it really easy for Heisenberg to poison her without her ever in the know until it's far too late.
    • When she hears from Gus that Lalo Salamanca still is able to cause trouble while in jail, she at once suggests arranging a prison shanking for him. Gus immediately points out the problem with such a plan: Lalo dying in an American prison under any circumstance would make the Cartel believe Gus arranged it, which would spell further trouble for everybody involved.
  • Dirty Coward: She has no problem with ordering hitmen to murder anyone who she feels is inconveniencing her (such as Gus' henchmen, Declan and his gang, Skyler, Walt); however, when her own life is in danger, she panics and begs for mercy.
  • Distaff Counterpart: To Walt. Both are well-educated people from non-criminal backgrounds who decide to participate in the dirty world of organized crime, but they have a hilariously naive view of "the game" (in particular, they both have an absurdly exaggerated idea of how much trust their fellow criminals will put in mere promises); yet they're still far more dangerous than they appear to be, and have zero qualms over eliminating their enemies and rivals.
  • Drink-Based Characterization: Lydia, the prim and professional corporate executive, always orders to the point of obsession, Chamomile tea with soy milk, with Stevia sweetener mixed in. This predictability ultimately gets her killed by Walt.note 
  • Establishing Character Moment: Upon sitting down at a diner booth, Lydia tersely asks the waitress for Chamomile tea with soy milk and then acts passive-aggressive towards her when informed that none is available. This establishes her cold, petty demeanor and her obsessive-compulsive tendencies. When she moves to sit at Mike's booth, she puts on an unconvincing show about Mike being her old friend "Dwayne," which fails to convince the waitress because she knows Mike's name. Mike then draws attention to the fact that she's wearing sunglasses indoors in the fear that someone will see her even though she's just talking to him in a restaurant. This stands in contrast to Mike who is so confident and professional he not only doesn't try to disguise himself but uses his own name and comes to a place where he is known. The purpose of this exchange is twofold: firstly it shows that Lydia is paranoid, but also that she's not as attentive as she ought to be, which leads her to underestimate the intelligence of the people around her by casually lying to them and treating them like idiots as well as showing how she completely misunderstands the world of drug trafficking and thinks she's being clever when she's actually calling far more attention to herself than if she treated it like a casual meeting, showing she isn't as savvy as she thinks she is. Her demeaning attitude doesn't cause any problems when she's taking advantage of a dimwit like Todd, but underestimating Walt ends very poorly for her.
  • Even Evil Has Loved Ones: Played with. Lydia's love for her young daughter is the only good trait she has. When Mike comes to try and kill Lydia, she's horrified at the prospect of her daughter being traumatized by discovering her body or thinking she abandoned her. Even more so after she learns that Walt has successfully caused her imminent death by ricin poisoning, realizing her girl will be left motherless. But ultimately she would rather have her daughter dead than imagine Lydia abandoning her; how Lydia looks to her daughter is more important than her daughter's life itself. This fits with Lydia's overall obsession with her own image and makes an interesting contrast to Walt's ultimate decision to leave his remaining money to Flynn even though his son will never know where it came from.
  • Face Death with Despair: When Lydia learns that she has been poisoned and is going to die really soon, her expression is that of complete terror as she awaits her impending death.
  • Failed a Spot Check: Lydia is so paranoid about her safety that when she meets her accomplices in public she wears dark glasses and insists on sitting back to back as they talk. But she overlooks that meeting at the same table in the same cafe every week makes it easy for someone like Walt to find her (and poison her).
  • Fatal Flaw: Walt uses Lydia's misplaced paranoia and OCD tendencies to not only poison her tea but to play into her Chronic Backstabbing Disorder in order to get close to Jack and his gang.
  • Foil: To a few people.
    • To Gustavo Fring. Both are consummate businesspeople, who dress perfectly and try to approach the meth trade with a degree of professionalism not normally seen in the "game". However, while Gus was calm, unflinching, and relatively reasonable, Lydia is paranoid, erratic, and unwilling to accept the brutality of the drug world. The contrast is best illustrated in Gus' massacre of the cartel and her disposing of Declan's crew — he moves between bodies without fear while taunting the remains of his enemies, while Lydia plugs her ears not to hear gunshots and later has to literally be guided by hand with her eyes closed through the carnage.
    • Her personality is also very much similar to Walter's own during the first season. She dispatched others to do her dirty work for her and is a constant nervous wreck in fear of her criminal activities affecting her personal life. Just like Walter, Lydia is also obsessed with cutting off any loose ends that may implicate her. This eventually includes Walter himself. Also, they both have a soft spot when it comes to their family as Lydia constantly states her concern for her daughter being left alone if she's killed. The big difference between the two is that Walt has no qualms with getting his own hands dirty, and has become hardened by his experiences while Lydia still depends on others to do dirty work for her.
  • The Friend Nobody Likes: Nearly everyone who has to work with Lydia absolutely hates her. Mike constantly belittles and threatens to kill her because of her paranoia, Walter considers her to be an inefficient and unintelligent woman, and even Gustavo Fring's stoic exterior cracks a bit because he finds her so irritating. The only exception is Todd, who is head over heels for her, but ironically Lydia only cares about Todd for the meth he brings in for her to resell.
  • Greed: As far as we know, she doesn't have complex motivations, she's in the drug business solely for the money. This greed is apparently so extreme that she's willing to go through with taking part in the murders of at least twenty people, putting her life at risk, and clearly having no mental enjoyment in the trade (unlike Walt), despite having what seems to be a well-paying and secure job at a massive business conglomerate.
  • Hate Sink: In a show filled with crime lords and drug dealers, few of them manage to be quite as... unpleasant as Lydia. Constantly condescending, quick to resort to murder even when it's unnecessary, and defined by her extreme cowardice, Lydia is simply a corrupt and pathetic woman whose death won't be mourned by many.
  • He Knows Too Much: One of her most common rationales for putting people out of the way; she's also afraid that Mike, Walter, or someone else will subject her to the same fate.
  • High-Heel Power: She is always seen wearing a pair of blue or black pumps. They receive a lot of focus when she's walking through the New Mexico desert or tiptoeing around dead bodies, showing how at odds her OCD businesswoman side is with the more brutal side of her business. One obvious sign the DEA investigation is getting to her is she showed up to work in two different shoes (which Hank notices).
  • Hoist by Her Own Petard: Walt uses Lydia's dedication to her daily routine against her in the finale. Knowing which table she'd sit at, what time she'd show up, and that she'd put stevia in her tea. More specifically, he takes advantage of that last part by lacing her stevia with ricin, thus condemning her to death.
  • Hypocrite:
    • As noted under Murder Is the Best Solution, Lydia's go-to response to something going wrong is ordering a hit on whoever's responsible. As noted under Dirty Coward, the few times her life is in danger, she panics and begs for mercy.
    • During said begging, her default move is to use her daughter as moral leverage. This makes it especially appalling when she sics Todd and co. on fellow mother Skyler to scare her into silence on Lydia's involvement with Walt's operation.
    • She is perfectly happy setting up and ordering Declan and his gang to be betrayed and brutally murdered by Jack's thugs. Afterwards, she insists Todd leads her through the corpses blind because she apparently finds the carnage she ordered offensive to her sensibilities.
    • In Better Call Saul, Lydia lectures Mike about not falling out of favor with Gustavo Fring, yet it's clear that Gustavo really can't stand her himself when she calls to complain about Mike just a few scenes later, only valuing her because she supplies him his chemicals.
  • It's All About Me: Implied. When Mike sneaks into her house and prepares to kill her due to her putting a hit on him, she doesn't beg Mike not to kill her, but not to kill her in a way that would disfigure her face, and that her body would be found because she didn't want her daughter to see her mutilated appearance nor wanted her daughter to think she suddenly abandoned her. How she is perceived by others is more important to Lydia than even her own life. Any time anything even remotely threatens her success or life, she is quick to find some way to weasel out as soon as she can, such as outright begging Walt to cook meth again when the quality of the supply goes down, or immediately deciding all of Mike's former employees need to be assassinated to prevent them from snitching despite Mike's assurance that they are well paid.
  • Jerkass: She's rude and condescending to almost everyone she talks to, especially when she knows she can get away with it.
  • Jerkass Has a Point: While Lydia is fueled by both greed and paranoia, she is not exactly wrong about Mike’s guys in prison potentially talking. Sure enough, this happens with Dan immediately selling out Mike and Dennis was outright ready to talk to the DEA but doesn’t because he wouldn’t get a favorable deal. As evil as it sounds, it’s not unreasonable for Lydia to suggest that killing them would be a much safer option than paying them as just even one of those men is either a missed payment away or a better deal away from spilling out their guts to the DEA.
  • Karmic Death: Fittingly for someone who threw around the idea of murdering loose ends like it was nothing and refused to face the results, Lydia learns on the phone that she has been fatally poisoned by Walt as a complete afterthought as if she was barely even worthy of his notice. In fact, she only even finds out about the ricin because she happened to call Todd's phone, with the implication being that if she had not done so, Walt wouldn't have even bothered to let her know.
  • Lack of Empathy: Aside from her own family of course, Lydia is completely ruthless when it comes to looking out for her own interests, even if it means sending people to their deaths on vague suspicions. It's also worth noting that even though Lydia loves her daughter, she's coldly indifferent to the fact that many of her targets have families themselves that they were providing for. Her daughter looks to be about the same age as Mike's granddaughter, but doesn't care that she would have been traumatizing the girl by murdering her grandfather (unlike how she tearfully used her own daughter to get Mike to spare her).
  • Leave No Witnesses: Her solution to Gus' now unemployed and broke henchmen following his death. Later on, her solution when Declan's meth operation proves to be not up to her standards is to order a hit on Declan, and everyone who works with him. Ends up being her Karmic Death when Walt organizes to kill her and the Nazis in the same fashion.
  • Manipulative Bitch: Especially of Todd; she plays into his crush on her to get him to do stuff. He's always happy to go along.
  • Mirror Character: To Saul Goodman. Both depend on others to do their dirty work for them, while using their own personal connections to make money in the drug trade, and both become increasingly paranoid by the end of the series due in part to their connections with Walt. But while Saul by and large never betrays a client and prefers to use murder only as a last resort of sorts, Lydia's primary characteristic is betraying people and using murder as an immediate answer for all problems. This key difference is crucial to their final fates; Saul's refusal to betray a client makes him a non-threat to Walt and thus he gets out alive, but since Lydia's first solution to any problem is to kill it, Walt makes sure to get rid of her first.
  • Motor Mouth: When she starts to panic (which is often), Lydia jabbers away like a dog on a speedboat.
  • Murder Is the Best Solution: While this seems to be her attitude in general towards potential threats, it's especially evident in "Granite State" when her first impulse in dealing with Skyler (who has seen her face and knows she was involved in Walt's business) is to have her killed, even after Todd of all people assures her that it isn't necessary and she won't talk.
  • Nervous Wreck: Lydia is forever on edge and terrified of being found out. At any given time, she's convinced that the DEA are closing in, Walt is planning to kill her, Mike is planning to kill her, or someone is going to talk. You really have to wonder how someone this high-strung ever got involved in the drug trade to begin with.
  • Non-Action Big Bad: Lydia becomes this in Season 5B. She's now in charge of running an international meth trafficking operation (after pretty much usurping it from Walt); but she never (directly) gets her own hands dirty, ordering Jack and his Nazi thugs to do anything violent for her.
  • Not in the Face!: Invokes this when Mike threatens her with a gun because she doesn't want her daughter to see her like that.
  • Obfuscating Stupidity: She comes off as a paranoid, crooked executive with a very naive view of the game, but she plays both Mike and Walt through some emotional blackmail, connections, and ego-stroking.
  • Oh, Crap!: When Walt tells her what he had her put in her tea.
  • The Paranoiac: Lydia fits this to a T. She constantly flips out over even the slightest hint that something has gone wrong, and believes that someone at any point is going to try to off her. To her credit, she tends to be right most of the time, with Mike and Heisenberg giving her pretty good reasons to stay vigilant.
  • Parental Abandonment: Defied. Lydia begs Mike to leave her body behind so that her daughter will know she didn't willfully abandon her, even threatening to scream if he doesn't promise to. Probably the only time she shows any moral convictions in the show, and even then it comes across like she's using her daughter as a bargaining chip to guilt-trip Mike.
  • Properly Paranoid: According to Lydia, everyone is out to get her. While it may seem like much at first, this paranoia isn't unfounded. At one point, she refuses to give Walt the information he needs out of fear he'll kill her once she's no longer a necessity to his drug empire: "You are tying up loose ends, and I don't want to be one of them." Walt scoffs at the idea he'd have her killed in broad daylight in the middle of a public cafe, but not only is he later revealed to have the ricin with him, suggesting he was intending to kill her. When he actually does, this is exactly how he does it.
  • Psychopathic Womanchild: She's quite immature emotionally, being self-centered, severely lacking in empathy, and extremely paranoid. When ordering the deaths of Declan and his gang, she covers her ears while the murders are happening like a child trying to shut out something scary, and insists on keeping her eyes closed while walking through the aftermath.
  • Remember the New Guy?: Was introduced in Season 5A as a major associate of Gus' organization despite not having once been mentioned in Seasons 3 or 4. This is justified to a certain extent as Lydia managed the civilian/distribution elements of Gus' operation, meaning Walt and Jesse wouldn't have crossed paths with her working as chemists. Averted with her reappearance in Better Call Saul, which gets to explore Gus and Lydia's business partnership.
  • Sanity Slippage: It's subtle, but there's a noticeable disconnect in Lydia's personality between the events of Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad. While still a paranoid control freak in the former series, she carries herself in a calmer and even slightly affable manner in her interactions with Gus and Schuler. Following their deaths in the latter, her instability becomes more visible and she dispenses of general niceties in person.
  • Smug Snake: Besides generally acting self-centered and cold, Lydia feels perfectly justified in murdering and betraying her business associates on the chance that they'll defy her wishes. The way she gleefully watches as her foreman Ron takes the fall for her misdeeds shows that she takes pleasure in her treachery.
  • The Sociopath: If you're not Lydia or her daughter, then this woman simply does not give a rat's ass what happens to you and has no qualms about betraying you to your possible death. Even Laura Fraser describes her as a "clean-cut, bonkers sociopath".
  • Tampering with Food and Drink: Walt preemptively spikes her sugar packets with ricin in "Felina", dooming her to a slow death.
  • Trademark Favorite Food: Chamomile tea with soy milk, with Stevia mixed in. The fact she always orders this every time she's at the café makes her incredibly predictable, which Walt exploits by swapping out the Stevia packets on the table with ricin before their final meeting.
  • Ungrateful Bitch: Jesse was the only thing standing between Lydia being left in a ditch somewhere by Mike, and Jesse repeatedly took her side when Mike and Walt were ready to dispose of her. Nevertheless, she doesn't seem particularly troubled by Jack's gang using him as a slave to make blue meth.
  • Villainous Breakdown: Suffers these quite often thanks to her Nervous Wreck nature, with her final one being a wide-eyed look of despair at Walt revealing what he put in her tea in "Felina".
  • Villainous Friendship: Despite the above-mentioned annoyance she brings to Gustavo, she has a good rapport with him and Peter Schuler as seen in the summit in "JMM." She offers to take Peter to the rodeo the next day to help him relax.
  • Wild Card: To the Walt/Mike/Jesse partnership.
  • Wrong Genre Savvy: When she meets with Mike and later Walter, she dons big black shades and tries to sit away from them like she's in a spy movie. Then she draws attention to herself by throwing a hissy fit about her order and generally acting like she's attended a police interview while covered in blood.
  • You Have Outlived Your Usefulness: Even more so than Gus. If Lydia thinks you're becoming a liability, don't expect to live much longer.
  • Your Days Are Numbered: She ends the series with, at most, only a few hours left to live due to Walt poisoning her with ricin. El Camino confirms that her death is guaranteed.

    Peter Schuler 

Peter Schuler

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Portrayed By: Norbert Weisser

Appearances: Breaking Bad | Better Call Saul

The CEO of the Madrigal Electromotive conglomerate's food-services subsidiary, the parent company of Gustavo Fring's Los Pollos Hermanos restaurants. He and Gustavo share a Mysterious Past and close friendship together.


  • Affably Evil: Schuler might be integral to an enormous drug operation built on blood, but he seems to be a very pleasant Benevolent Boss to work for, eagerly doling out compliments to his underlings. He also doesn't try to backstab anybody who works for him, a sharp contrast to his right-hand woman Lydia.
  • The Comically Serious: His subordinates give him a jar full of tater tots and a plate of condiments they've whipped up to dip; a new formulation of mustard, "Franch" dressing, "Cajun Kick-Ass," and so on. It all looks delicious but he keeps slowly and glumly eating them, then grabs the whole jar of tots and starts eating directly.
  • Corrupt Corporate Executive: He was the business partner of a meth kingpin.
  • Cruel and Unusual Death: Suicide by electrocution from an automated external defibrillator.
  • Driven to Suicide: Knowing that the death of Gus means he'll be found out, arrested, subjected to a lengthy trial, and imprisoned, Schuler decides to opt out of all that hassle.
  • Fall Guy: He's mostly blamed for Madrigal's connection, and his death allows Lydia to get away with her own shady dealings.
  • Foregone Conclusion: Peter is legitimately shocked that he somehow hasn't been caught for all his crimes when he airs out his stress with Gustavo in Better Call Saul. As viewers of Breaking Bad will know, he eventually does get caught, and is Driven to Suicide because of it.
  • Germanic Depressives: Played with. Schuler is presented as a stereotypically humorless German, but it becomes apparent that the other Germans around him find his behavior odd. Soon we learn the true reason for his glum demeanor: he is contemplating suicide to avoid being arrested.
  • Greater-Scope Villain: Was Gus' business partner who apparently facilitated distribution for his drug empire. This is not really explored in detail.
  • Heterosexual Life-Partners: With Gustavo Fring. During their one scene together in Better Call Saul, it's clear that Schuler was genuinely close to Gus.
  • Mysterious Past: Vaguer than even Gustavo's. His involvement with Gustavo isn't elaborated upon much, save for a brief mention that he pulled something that got the two of them out of hot water in Santiago before; all that's known is the respect Fring and Lydia have for him and his role in Madrigal's operations.
  • Nervous Wreck: He’s even more nervous than Lydia; unlike her asking to shank someone, he just thinks they’re doomed when things are going poorly.
  • Noodle Incident: Better Call Saul reveals that his association with Gustavo Fring started as far back as Santiago, Chile. If what Gustavo said is anything to go by, Schuler did something impressive that saved both their lives and forged their bond.
  • Small Role, Big Impact: His suicide in Breaking Bad continues to open more doors for the DEA to investigate Gustavo Fring's drug empire, and subsequently discover who Heisenberg really is.
  • Tempting Fate: He worries about the millions of Euros their operations entail, saying that "it's a miracle [he hasn't] been caught". It'll only be a few years before things really go south for him.
  • Villainous Breakdown: After Madrigal's connection to Gustavo Fring's drug empire is revealed, Peter spends the last day of his life internally freaking out and solemnly taste-testing condiments from his fast-food company.
  • Villain Cred: Whatever Peter may have done, it got him and Gustavo out of Santiago alive and earned serious respect from Fring.
  • Villainous Friendship: He and Gustavo are great friends with roots going back to the latter's life in Chile.
  • Villain of Another Story: Peter was responsible for helping Gustavo Fring become the powerful drug lord he is today, but his involvement in doing so is left a mystery.
  • We Hardly Knew Ye: He has three scenes across both series' (one in Breaking Bad, two in Better Call Saul). His scene in Breaking Bad combines dark humor with genuine pathos, and it's pretty beloved within the fandom.

    Ron Forenall 

Ron Forenall

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Portrayed By: Russ Dillen

A foreman for the Houston warehouse of Madrigal Electromotive.


  • Cosmic Plaything: Lydia makes him a Fall Guy to ensure she doesn't go to prison and then Walt has him murdered in prison to make sure he never tells anyone about Heisenberg's identity.
  • Death Glare: He gives one to Lydia as he's being arrested.
    Lydia: The look he just gave me was the very antithesis of "okay," okay?
  • The Dragon: He was this for Lydia at one time.
  • Fall Guy: Lydia has him arrested by the DEA when they come to Houston.
  • He Knows Too Much: He's killed in prison on Walt's orders to make sure nobody knows who Heisenberg is.
  • You Have Outlived Your Usefulness: His own boss Lydia allows his murder to happen to prevent him from ratting her out in prison.

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