Discussion YMMV / Velma

Now that we can add certain YMMV tropes what would be a good way to word a Creator's Pet entry for Velma? Regarding Velma herself of course.

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Doesn't the fact that the protagonist of a comedy is obviously horrible make it likely that Velma is meant to be an Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist, despite the article's claim that she's the designated hero and Unintentionally Unsympathetic?

On a related note, the possibility that the show didn't mean to dunk on opposite extremes of parenting never occurred to me. What makes anyone think that that was an accident? This further ties in to the idea that Fred is the Designated Monkey; I watched the show thinking that its obvious message was people like Velma are in the wrong for thinking that rich white males were inherently privileged when Fred is clearly a victim of society much like what they complain about.

These further make me question the presence of other author intent related statements I didn't have an opinion of, like "We are supposed to sympathize with Diya for Aman moving on with Sophie while she was missing and their relationship is treated like an affair."

Are we really? What about the show indicates that?

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I need help. I'm trying to think of a trope that fits the term of when the people working on the show got something so blatantly wrong.

For example, they essentially said Fred was the white guy who likes to takes credit for everything, when that only happened one.

What would be the proper term for that? I'm also trying to find that interview/article in question.

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Would this version of Fred and Norville fall into Base-Breaking Character? I hardly find anyone thinking they are great characters but i have seen a lot of discussions/reviews where they are called as two of the few redeemable qualities of the show, as well as a lot of discussions/reviews were they are two of the most criticized aspects of the show.

Likewise, is too soon to consider this version of Velma The Scrappy?

The "brain in the jar" yarn - like any good Frankenstein story - works only if the surgeon can make it credible. That is as true in comedy as it is in horror. Mel Brooks could have told you that. Edna Perdue was a veteran neurosurgeon with twenty years experience. Victoria a CEO and Diya a writer. No. The way Velma was structured the killer had to be white, but, since all white males in Velma are incompetent, the killer had to be female. That left the writers no where else to go but to Victoria.

Would it fall under Common Knowledge the concept that the shows poor ratings and reviews on imdb happened before it's release? While it's true there was a crowd to do that, imdb doesn't let you rate things before they actually come out, and user reviews can't be posted until after the show actually comes out, where critics had given it somewhat positive reviews before audience reception dropped it down? While it's true there was a group that aimed to do this, the ratings would have balanced out by now in a much more positive direction if it really was much better than what initial reviews suggested.

Or would that be seen as too intentionally inflammatory?

Edited by Auraicide To do what other people do. To look at the future, and say "It gets better." How badly I want that. Hide / Show Replies

An Overshadowed by Controversy entry, to be added after the appropriate amount of time.

• Overshadowed by Controversy: While the quality of the show is what recieved the most backlash, the premier also coincided with the resurfacing of a Conan interview where Mindy Kaling casually admitted to sexually harassing fellow actor Lee Pace during a scene, and then after being called out, threatened to have two producers fired if they told. This only further turned off viewers from the show, except for the Bile Fascination aspect.

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