Discussion YMMV / Halo5Guardians

I'm surprise there's no mention of the lack of Local Co-Op and the ensuing backlash.

Looking through this list of examples, something seems ... off about this addition to Win Back the Crowd:

15th Sep '15 3:08:00 AM Tuckerscreator

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** A good amount of approval was given to the diverse lineup of Fireteam Osiris, which averts both The Smurfette Principle and Token Minority that previous teams in Halo had stuck to, and even includes the first known biracial Spartan.

For several reasons. One, a lot of this page has been devoted to how Fireteam Osiris broke the fanbase with their addition and their characterization. There's much ado on how a lot of the fanbase regards them all as Creator's Pets. Yet this example claims that the fanbase greatly approves of Fireteam Osiris.

Which leads me to the second issue with this example. It says that Fireteam Osiris won over the fanbase because they are of diverse race and include women. Yet, to my knowledge, Spartans were already a diverse bunch: SPARTAN-IIs from both sexes and many different ethnic backgrounds have been around even since the companion novels released with the first game—and heck, Blue Team in Halo 5 is proof of that. Even before 5, though, we saw this firsthand with Halo: Reach, most prominently with the SPARTAN-IIIs Emile, Jun, and Catherine (and potentially Noble Six). Heck, even among the known SPARTAN-Is, there's Avery Johnson, Gladys Wilson, and Gilley. Knowing this makes me feel as if the "crowd" who was "won back" never actually had much interest in the series before Halo 5.

In fact, this example actually made me go and look into reactions concerning Fireteam Osiris. I saw some fans disparagingly refer to them as "Fireteam Affirmative Action," who feel that those characters were created not in order to be compelling or well-written, but just to tick off boxes on some representation checklist. Which is how Tuckerscreator's example reads, come to think of it ... Definitely doesn't seem like a case of the crowd being won back.

Which raises the question: is Fireteam Osiris actually a case of winning back the fanbase? Or is this trope being misapplied, and Fireteam Osiris actually won over an entirely different crowd?

Can Fireteam Osiris be called Creator's Pets? Their inclusion in the game was divisive but hardly controversial.

Should there be anything in the Broken Base section in regards to the game launching with no Multiplayer maps that contain vehicle usage, in addition to the removal of certain game types like Infection or Big Team Battle?