Discussion Main / WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings

I would like to add the following paragraph to the Analysis page for this trope. But I wanted to run it by others first to make sure it's both appropriate and not potentially problematic:

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This begs the question that every creator who deals with this problem must inevitably answer: what's to be done about these members of your fandom who act so badly? While the answer to such a question is beyond the scope of what we do here at TV Tropes, there is simply no one right answer for how to deal with everyone, and the solution must be applied on a case-by-case basis depending on what the fans are doing. The most we can say is that there are a few responses we have tropes for: releasing a statement about the negative attitudes from the audience, telling them to just go away if they seem to get such anger from your work, and expressing the belief that you're only allowed to criticize a work if you've made one yourself. As noted on those trope pages, these kinds of responses generally just stoke the flames even further, so you probably should think twice before typing it out.

Edited by KingLyger The fantasy RPG videos that play in my head are amazing.

So, I was wondering if Andrew Hussie's closing of the suggestion box for MS Paint Adventures is an appropriate example of this trope. From what I understand of it, the reason he did so was because most of the suggestions were either idiotic or merely rehashing of old memes ("Retrieve arms", et al). I could be mistaken though. Does anyone else have any information on this?

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Honestly I think this is one of the most important trope pages to read on this site because it really shows how NOT to behave towards a creator plus the results of people misbehaving.

I mean some people just aren't nice and respect goes both ways so people should be mindful of how they behave including towards creators.

Per TRS, the definition is being expanded to include creators taking action in ways other than cutting off communication with fans:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1638730073099768300&page=2#comment-35

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

I'm so proud this page is so detailed now. I created the YKTTW for it, wayyyyy back when. My greatest achievement haha

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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Not subjective (Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things), started by MangaManiac on Aug 29th 2011 at 6:43:24 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I've been considering adding The Content Policy as an example for the TV Tropes folder, as it seems that the motivation for the new policy stemmed from creepy content written by tropers in certain pages, and I've written a mock-up that reads:

"The Content Policy and the 5P Circuit exist partially because of this trope. Originally, works and tropes surrounding pornography and sexual harassment were mostly open for anyone to add or edit, but that changed when a You Tube video from the This Troper series and complaints from Google both highlighted suspicious content that certain tropers put into some of the pages, motivating the staff to delete and/or lock many of these pages and set up specific rules to prevent pornographic and p(a)edophilic content from appearing again."

However, I am hesitating to add this because it may be too controversial or otherwise problematic to put in. I'd like to hear some feedback over whether or not I should go with it.

I'd like some context for the TV Tropes example, "In at least one case, continued violations of the Spoiler Policy on a single page have caused a total page-wide prohibition on the spoiler markup."

It's so vague at the moment, that it's more-or-less impossible for most tropers to know exactly what page needed the spoiler prohibition.

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Can someone please tell me what is meant in the Bleach example?

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Is it applicable to how Joss Whedon was or wasn't forced off twatter?

Too bad Adventure Time episode "Red Throne" never got added to this trope. That episode was the end of all Finn X Flame Princess shippers for life.

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Many of the examples given are genuine harassment of media creators. But some of the examples just strike me as criticism of creators' work, often in a way that wouldn't be out of place in a professionally published review. (And the Doctor Who Restoration Team example is written in a way that seems especially biased to me.)

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As much as I agree with the section on the Tales Series, I'm not really sure this is the reason why they aren't localized. If I remember correctly, it's more about the amount of money and effort that goes into the translation, production, and marketing of a series that, sadly, doesn't sell all that well in America or Europe. I don't think the fans is whats keeping it away, despite how scary we all are.

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