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mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 8th 2021 at 10:00:56 AM •••

Perhaps this should go on the Music subpage, but I'll put it here just the same.

The thought has occurred that the vast majority of examples on the Music subpage aren't examples of sequels. Nearly all of them amount to "This artist or band's early albums are much more obscure than their later work," and while that's true of sequel displacement, the later albums are almost never sequels to the early albums. They don't tell stories featuring the same characters in the same way a film sequel, TV series sequel, literary sequel, or video game sequel does. They're just later works by the same artist. It feels tantamount to, for example, saying that Anton Chekhov's last four four-act plays (The Seagull, Uncle Vanya, Three Sisters, The Cherry Orchard) displaced his first one, Ivanov, even though the later plays do not continue stories or include characters from the earlier plays.

However, tempted as I am to delete examples that appear to misuse the concept of a "sequel", the resulting deletions would be large scale enough that discussion seems prudent.

AndreskX Since: Aug, 2020
Jun 3rd 2021 at 10:32:07 AM •••

Does The Dark Knight (film) count, considering how much it grossed compared to its predecessor?

Domino5555 Since: May, 2016
Jul 2nd 2020 at 12:00:11 PM •••

Since Fate Zero has more votes on IMDB than any of the Fate/stay night adaptations, does that mean Sequel or Prequel Displacement?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 2nd 2020 at 1:24:23 PM •••

What do you mean more votes?

In any case, I don't think Fate/Zero counts for this at all. Even if it's a very well-received prequel (and my personal favorite in the series) it's hardly overshadowed the original in terms of sheer popularity or even pop culture impact.

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Domino5555 Since: May, 2016
Sep 17th 2020 at 9:34:16 AM •••

Apologies for the late reply, but I couldn't get any notifications.

This is what I meant: https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title=Fate&genres=animation&sort=num_votes,desc

crazyrabbits Crazyrabbits Since: Jan, 2001
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Dec 29th 2013 at 4:08:35 AM •••

Pulled this:

  • While Deus Ex is a well-known name in the hardcore and older gaming communities, many newer and casual players are probably more familiar with Deus Ex: Human Revolution. While Human Revolution is probably more enjoyable if you play it having played the original, the game is a prequel, and can stand on its own.

I'm not sure who wrote this, but the original game has, and continues to, sell well. Not only was it one of a select few games at the time to receive a Game of the Year edition, but the continuing popularity of the original game is what even resulted in Human Revolution's development in the first place.

Likewise, the original game sold more than 1 million units in 2000 alone, and Invisible War sold even better.

I can't tell if this is just an overzealous fan who wrote this, but this trope is for sequels that displace a game that's barely known and/or had many flaws that were rectified by the later game.

There's also a large problem in this trope with people trying to equate a Spiritual Successor with a previous game from the same company, and using that to deem the older game as insignificant. I'll try to prune those when i have time.

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ayjazz Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 26th 2014 at 1:36:49 PM •••

That was me who wrote that.

"but this trope is for sequels that displace a game that's barely known and/or had many flaws that were rectified by the later game."

If that's the case, then I'll leave the trope out. Nah, I'm not anti-Human Revolution (I loved the game) but most people I've met who have played HR seem to not be aware of the original games, so I assumed that this trope would apply.

Baphometix Prion among viruses Since: Nov, 2009
Prion among viruses
Feb 10th 2012 at 10:35:24 PM •••

I'm pretty sure that the word "Hardcore" is used more times on this page than anywhere else on this wiki.

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