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Jan 6th 2015 at 6:34:03 PM •••

Can reassuring images after a frightening sequence be considered Nightmare Retardant?

What I mean is the kind of scene where we see horrific acts being committed in an atmosphere of hoplessness and/or fear, only to be immediately followed by a scene of the diametrically opposing lightning, music and imagery to offer hope such as powerful forces of good are being mustered to fight the horror.

A prime example of this is The Mighty Heroes episode, "The Monsterizer" ( which has a beginning that is genuinely frightening for kids of a villain forcibly transforming innocent people into mindless creatures in a dark house. That sequence is immediately followed by the series' title sequence which has blazing bright colours set to a rousing march as powerful superheroes are called to action to stop this horror.

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Dec 10th 2012 at 7:29:46 PM •••

As a person with disables, I find that "r" word offensive and would like to see it changed if that is at all possible.

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Dec 11th 2012 at 1:58:00 AM •••

Sorry, but trope names being potentially offensive has never been a reason to rename them.

Dec 11th 2012 at 9:08:53 AM •••

I think calling this trope name "potentially offensive" is a severe exaggeration... it's not offensive by any reasonable means.

Jan 10th 2013 at 10:08:30 PM •••

Also the word means "slow" or "hinder" and is used in plenty of other contexts. It is not inherently offensive and I think it's oversensitive to take it that way.

Nov 18th 2012 at 1:23:39 AM •••

The Comics/Ambush Bug/Quantis entry: Koalas are nasty creatures. A subversion? Though that may go under mileage may vary.

Feb 6th 2012 at 9:02:56 PM •••

The only way an example qualifies is if the developers intended for either the characters or the audience to be scared.

For example, the Dead Space entry I took out said that the final boss was Nightmare Retardant because by that point the player is completely numb to big grotesque monsters and isn't going to be scared. Well that's probably true, but how can we assume the developers intended the player or the characters to be scared in the first place?

I haven't played the game, but I watched a clip of the boss fight. There's no ominous music, no tense camera work, no dark environments. The boss is always in sight, and the arena is clear and well lit. There's no indication that the developers wanted to frighten the player. Furthermore, none of the characters seemed particularly scared - like the player, they've probably been somewhat numbed to big scary monsters. So this doesn't apply.

Also, when the something is clearly supposed to be funny and the characters also find it funny, it obviously doesn't belong here.

Since this is plopped under 'Bad Writing', I don't think anyone's going to lose any sleep over examples being taken out.

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Nov 29th 2011 at 8:02:56 AM •••

Are fanfiction/fan-created works of Nightmare Retardant allowed here, or should this be kept to original works only?

Jun 28th 2011 at 1:09:54 PM •••

Mandatory stupid joke.

It's supposed to be an image of Satan, as depicted in the Codex Gigas, in which it looks even sillier.

It could have all been avoided if they used the Codex Giygas.

Okay, I'm done.

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Feb 1st 2011 at 5:34:07 AM •••

All right, I have tried like 5 times to get Helloween4545's name to work as a link to his contributor page, and I can't figure it out. Someone please fix the formatting (under Video Games).

Mar 25th 2010 at 12:03:55 AM •••

As to whether or not a 98-pound girl (River) could realistically (at least by fiction standards) kill a roomful of larger, crazed men, there's the implied combat training and assassin training. One troper mentioned it, but if she's able to actually put her full weight of force into each punch or kick...that's essentially the basis of martial arts, is learning to punch and kick more effectively. Plus she's fast and incredibly agile, which works in tandem with her psychic powers to avoid her getting hit. (Also note that she rarely blocks a blow...and that straight blocks aren't used in many forms of martial arts. Redirecting the blow takes less energy and leaves you in a better position to counter-attack.)

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Apr 4th 2010 at 11:24:19 AM •••

The following is a discussion that was pulled from the main page, and arguably belonged in here all along.

  • Taking into account the fact that said waif was trained to be a super-powered assassin, this troper was not off-put by her winning. The fact of the matter is that the real horror of the Reapers is never shown because it would instantly get the movie banned. Listen to the female scientist screaming for several minutes straight and keep in mind that's not happy screaming. They rape, kill, skin, and eat people, sometimes not even in that order, and you really think they can show that?
    • She's 98 frickin' pounds. No amount of training will enable a 98 pound woman to be able to defeat opponents that "dangerous" in melee combat. There are few 98 pound women alive that can beat even the average male Troper in hand to hand combat, and we're to believe that tiny thing can take out those feared creatures? Please. I get people here worship Firefly, but have some sense of perspective. It was laughable.
    • She's also psychic, too. Odds are she can predict exactly where their attacks will be and counter them.
    • Psychic, wow, that's great. But she's still a 98-pound girl. Someone THAT tiny could not block attacks from a man of even barely-average strenght, let alone one who is unhinged with insanity. And even IF she COULD do that, a psychic person still only has 4 limbs; she was against dozens. They should have ripped her apart. I loved the TV series of Firefly, but the movie ruined the whole Reavers concept. Plus, I still can't buy into River being that deadly in unarmed melee.
      • River was armed, as she took several blades from the Reavers. Also, she rarely blocked attacks, and never blocked them with her bare hands. The rest of the time she dodged or deflected attacks. But a 98-pound woman CAN block an attack from a full-grown man, through the magic of (real life) martial arts. This troper's karate instructor staged such a demonstration on the first day of class, as part of a lesson about grounding and stances.
        • I took martial arts as well and I know that a 98 lb woman's best defense would be the element of surprise. If the opponent knows what she's capable of, she may be able to block a few attacks while landing some of her own but one good punch or kick landed could turn tables fast, as in Rocky IV Drago vs Apollo fast. But still, even if a 98 lb woman could beat an average man, that doesn't mean she could beat a room full of well above average sized men.

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