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MetaFour MOD (Old Master)
16th Dec, 2020 07:01:39 PM

The relationship between musician pages and individual album pages is analogous to that between TV series pages and individual episode recap pages. I don't think there's a hard wiki policy on how to handle tropes between them, but the wiki hive mind seems to match my own opinion on how it should work:

  • If a trope only appears in one episode/album, then it should go in that specific recap/album page rather than the main page. But if that episode/album doesn't have its own page yet, it can go on the main page in the interim.
  • If a trope appears in multiple episodes/albums, then it should go in all the recap/album pages where it applies—and since it's a recurring trope, it's also worth mentioning on the main trope list as well.

Your specific examples do sound like they should be both on the Disturbed page and The Sickness. To minimize the duplication, you can put a more general overview on the main page, and the more detailed description on the album page. Just list the various Sanity Slippage Songs on the Disturbed page, then on The Sickness page explain in more detail how "Down with the Sickness" fits the trope.

I'm less sure about whether music video examples should go on the album pages or the band's main page. Perhaps it's the sort of thing that should be handled on a case-by-case basis. I started the page for Pepe DeluxĂ©, as well as a page for their album Queen of the Wave. They have a few music videos for songs from Queen of the Wave, but I put those examples on the main band page rather than the album page—mostly because Queen of the Wave is a Rock Opera, but the music videos don't tie into the album's plot at all. But for some other band who does make their music videos tie into a Concept Album's overarching theme, I could understand listing those video examples on the album page. And for musicians who don't do Concept Albums at all, their videos could go either way.

I didn't write any of that.
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
16th Dec, 2020 07:34:25 PM

Note that there is no requirement nor indeed recommendation that individual albums, and especially individual songs, should have their own work articles. In most cases all relevant examples can live on the Music article for the artist. We make exceptions for specific story-heavy or trope-heavy albums, like rock operas, that contain thematic and narrative elements that go beyond simply a collection of tracks.

Music videos are similar: most of them are not special enough to get their own articles. The exceptions should be just that: exceptional, not the rule.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Tenebrika (Less Newbie)
17th Dec, 2020 07:35:34 AM

Wow, thank you very much for the detailed answers :)

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