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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
15th Jan, 2020 10:48:27 AM

Cross Wicking says that both the trope page and the work page should say the same thing.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
15th Jan, 2020 11:27:45 AM

^ The entire example doesn't need to be crosswicked verbatim, of course.

Nonetheless, it's rather stupid that the very work we're using as an example is a ZCE on its actual page. There's no problem with "plagiarizing" from ourselves, so you can go ahead and make the edit if you want to.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
15th Jan, 2020 12:49:47 PM

Jesus, the fact that almost that entire page are ZC Es is just kinda shameful.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
15th Jan, 2020 12:53:58 PM

Devils Advocate, but... what would proper context look like for this trope (or any title trope)?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
15th Jan, 2020 12:53:58 PM

Bleh, double

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
15th Jan, 2020 12:55:39 PM

OP's post mentions that the page itself specifically says how to provide context: basically give a reason why this single word was chosen to represent an entire work.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
15th Jan, 2020 01:05:26 PM

While I, personally, copy the examples verbatim, it is correct to state that making them identical is not required. However, Cross Wicking does require that substantially similar edits are required. Whoever commented out the example on Friends.Tropes K To O should've done the same thing on OneWordTitle.Live Action TV, and context needs to be provided to both pages, not just one. Adding a second-level bullet to one page needs to be followed by adding a substantially similar example to the other page.


All of this was besides the issue of... OWT has a guide on how to give actual content to entries, but the page is nothing but zero content. What should be done to fix this?
What would proper context look like for any title trope?
Some title tropes actually do lend themselves to needing context, such as Antagonist Title and Protagonist Title. They should provide context in how the character acts as a (pro/an)tagonist.

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
15th Jan, 2020 01:08:55 PM

It's not much, but I'll add context to the ones I can add context for. Some of them I've even added myself, which makes me feel dirty, lol...

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
15th Jan, 2020 04:01:33 PM

^ We were all newbies once.

^^ While we're on the topic of crosswicking, I should probably point out that it isn't a requirement to do it to 100% of tropes, especially when common tropes or adaptations/fan works are involved. (We don't need to have twenty The Hero entries for twenty versions of Spider-Man.) Still, if you're not crosswicking, you should have a reason (apart from laziness/apathy) to not do it.

Returning to the ZCE problem: Protagonist Title, being a title trope, probably isn't the best one to use for an example, but "The work is named for Character X, who is the protagonist" should be sufficient. It allows a casual reader to be able to make a reasonably good guess at what the trope is and how it applies to the work.

Should we just take this to the ZCE thread?

Edited by RallyBot2
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
15th Jan, 2020 09:42:38 PM

^ I wasn't a newbie, that's the thing. :P

For the crosswicking thing, the lack of such crosswicking is a big epidemic I'd like to fix, but unfortunately it's so time-consuming and draining... but yeah.

As for this, sure, take it to the thread.

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