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I say take it to TRS. Spoiler alert: my vote is to limit it to In-Universe or Intended Audience Reaction examples.
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I would leave in as in universe as well.
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^ That's how I feel, too.
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I think that's a fair limitation. I can confirm a few of those, though.
- In the film version of The Hunger Games, Caesar Glickman is played as a broad game show Large-Ham Announcer/red carpet interviewer stereotype, and while downplayed, his laugh is a braying guffaw and sounds about as fake as his unnaturally white teeth look. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoE40SIPjSI
- Salacious B. Crumb is a Small, Annoying Creature who acts as court jester to Jabba the Hutt. The gangster seemingly keeps the Kowakian Monkey-Lizard around specifically for his piercingly shrill cackle whenever Jabba sentences someone to death or torture. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6YfDBmh8
- Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory rarely laughs other than at his own jokes, and instead of laughing out loud, it's usually a rasping, panting sort of snicker. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O12ZNxm7EUs
The Slitheen's laughter is annoying, but I'm not sure I'd say it's the laugh itself, just the context of it and the length it goes on for. Link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unORPOtavqM
^ I've just started a TRS thread, so (assuming it gets opened, which it should), we can discuss this more there, but my problem seems that at lest two of those examples still seem like the audience deciding someone's laugh is annoying, which very easily translates into complaining.
How so? I mean, that's the joke with Sheldon. I don't watch the show, but there's a laugh track. And Caesar and Salacious B. Crumb are villainous toadies, designed to read that way. It might read somewhat as complaining, but if being annoying is the Intended Audience Reaction, I don't know that you could really describe it accurately without some element of that.
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Well, then the examples I mentioned, as written, don't do a good job at describing the "intentional" part- they're just people saying a character has an annoying voice. Limiting it to IUEO would get rid of the need to assume creator's intent as well, especially because in most cases, a character designed to be annoying will be openly described as annoying in the work, and if their laugh is meant to be annoying, someone in the work would acknowledge it.
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I agree with limiting it to in-universe examples plus Intended Audience Reaction and that it needs some ZCE/complaining cleanup, but I do think a sufficiently exaggerated shrill, jittery, or braying (etc.) laugh can stand alone as an example. That's all.
^ Yeah, if it's that exaggerated, it's probably intentional.
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So the thread has been locked for a few days now. Any chance of it being looked at soon, mods?
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So a little while ago I realized the Annoying Laugh page has a lot of examples that appear to just be people complaining about a character's voice. (Note that a lot of these were also zero-context, so one may need to use the source to find most of them). However, when taking it to the Complaining thread three times, I got no response from anyone on whether or not the examples are okay or if a clean-up is needed. I don't know if the situation is bad enough to go to TRS, if the trope is supposed to be for laughs the audience finds annoying (despite being a trope and not an audience reaction?), if it's supposed to be laughs made intentionally annoying...
I'm really at a loss for what to do here. But I can at least show some examples of what I'm talking about: