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11th Jun, 2019 10:08:46 PM

They don't. There are a lot of tropes that aren't possible in real life.

11th Jun, 2019 10:09:50 PM

They...aren't, though? Tropes are patterns that occur in storytelling; some of these patterns may reflect what actually happens in reality, but that doesn't mean they're based on "non-fiction". Or are you really going to try and claim that, say, Revealing Continuity Lapse, Human Aliens and Eyepatch After Time Skip, just to name a few, are based on objective reality?

11th Jun, 2019 10:09:57 PM

just brcause its fiction dosent mean its a real life example, isnt that kinda the point to tell a story without incriminating the people in it or am i missing something here?

11th Jun, 2019 10:12:53 PM

I'm not sure what you're actually asking. Why tropes do you think are based on non-fiction? What do you mean by " tell a story without incriminating the people in it"?

Plenty of fiction has little or nothing to do with anything or anyone in real life.

11th Jun, 2019 10:13:21 PM

^ Yeah, I'm confused, too.

Here, Zags. This page should help: Trope

Edited by WarJay77
11th Jun, 2019 10:33:01 PM

it just seems like alot of tropes i see are miss guided for some reason or another, if someone is going to take the time to write a trope to tell a story wouldnt you atleast want to know the true version instead of being tricked into thinking a certain way just for the simple fact to make the troper look good? or for what ever other reason they make things seem a certain way?

11th Jun, 2019 10:36:35 PM

Do you have an example of what you mean? Because I'm still not sure I follow.

Like what's a specific trope you think is "miss guided for some reason or another"?

People don't write tropes to tell a story. It's the other way around. Stories are written using tropes that are, often as not, already there.

Edited by sgamer82
11th Jun, 2019 10:37:51 PM

True version? A trope is a trope or is not. A audience reaction is YMMV. Could you be more specific regarding your question? Also what do you mean make the troper look good?

Edited by Tuvok
11th Jun, 2019 10:38:11 PM

im not saying that its not entertaining because it is but some stuff just seem extremely pointless to the point where i fall asleep reading i. not trying to be negative just had to ask

11th Jun, 2019 10:40:49 PM

If you fall asleep reading then perhaps go get an exciting book? A trope is fun but it's function primarily is not to entertain you. Can you define what exactly the issue is.

11th Jun, 2019 10:41:34 PM

I don't think you're trolling... but it's very hard to answer your question because I'm still not sure what your question is.

Again, if you can give a specific example it could go a long way to making sense of this.

11th Jun, 2019 10:48:10 PM

Again, tropes are just the patterns used in a work in order to help tell the story or convey meaning to the reader. That's all they are. They aren't good, they aren't bad; Tropes Are Tools. Some are reflections of reality, others are only possible with narrative; Some add comedy, some add drama, some add horror; some of them are just artistic shorthands.

The vibe I'm getting is that you think tropes are...Boring? Too realistic? Serious? Some of them might be, but more often than not, tropes just are, and their entertainment value is determined by the work using them.

Edited by WarJay77
11th Jun, 2019 10:49:08 PM

i dont really have examples it just seems that some tropes involve specific details that i just so happen to be dealing with in real life, like the story being told ive actually been in almost word for word but certain details are changed infavor for the troper or tropers. but it just makes me feel crazy for asking about it so i never did its just something that ive always found interesting, and wanted to know

11th Jun, 2019 10:55:02 PM

That doesn't make sense? A trope is a storytelling device. It's not about making a troper look bad, it's not there to keep you entertain, it's neutral. If something applies it's a trope. More or less. Perhaps if you could clearify the question or issue.

Edited by Tuvok
11th Jun, 2019 10:56:55 PM

Is your problem that some tropes are based on real-life scenarios, including ones with negative implications or the like? Well...that's because people write stories based on the real world and use elements from the real world while doing so, that's all.

11th Jun, 2019 11:34:49 PM

i figured thatd be the kind of answer id get thats why i never asked. some stories seemed to exist within my everyday life and i just found it extremely odd. im just trying to get to know the creators of the tropes so i could just clear things up for myself. but since it all just seems to be a coincidence then i retract my question thanks for answering this happened to be alot easier than i thought it would be.

11th Jun, 2019 11:37:19 PM

Oh, well, thing is, none of us here are really creating tropes more than we are documenting tropes that just happen to exist. That's probably where the confusion comes from.

11th Jun, 2019 11:39:23 PM

but how can that be if with the second comment stating that there are many tropes that just cant be possible in reallife being that some are non fiction wouldnt that make it a story?

Edited by Zaqs
11th Jun, 2019 11:50:22 PM

Some are non fiction, but the tropes are used in a fictional narrative.

For example: Alcoholics exist; The Alcoholic is a type of fictional character.

12th Jun, 2019 12:01:29 AM

documenting tropes that just so happen to exist with a non fictional narritive has to be created from somewhere other than real life otherwise they wouldnt exist

Edited by Zaqs
12th Jun, 2019 12:22:04 AM

i understand, all im trying to say is documenting a story with a false connotation enables things to be flanderized and missconstrued in a way to make things more interesting which in some cases can be interpereted differently depending on the point of view, not that theres anything wrong with the way the story is being told because they do become extremely entertaining! Im just stating weather the narritive is fictional or non fictional if its being told in a way for the writer to keep the reader on the edge of their seat then it dosent exist without being made up in some kind of way. Therefore its created before it exists making it a story. or false documentation

Edited by Zaqs
12th Jun, 2019 12:38:20 AM

another thing that makes it hard to believe to be true is why does the person being lampshaded being set up in a way that they cant defend themselves or even know that the writers even exist you cant defend yourself with a lamp shade on your head whats the purpose of it? is it to hide whats really going on or is it to keep the lampshaded from disputing anything the writers have to say..

Edited by Zaqs
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