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Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
22nd Oct, 2015 07:59:07 PM

Derived works should never be listed on the parent work's article. If there are articles for them, relevant examples go there. Otherwise they should be deleted.

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jayoungr Since: Sep, 2009
22nd Oct, 2015 08:22:13 PM

I have read that MSTing, and I can confirm that it's a fanfic. (It's hilarious, too, and worth seeking out if you like that sort of thing!) It does reproduce the entire text of the book, with commentary.

randomsurfer Since: Jan, 2001
22nd Oct, 2015 08:31:00 PM

jay, would you like to move it to a fanfic page? Since you seem to be familiar with it and could possibly give it a proper introduction.

bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
22nd Oct, 2015 11:59:57 PM

What's the proper namespace for MSTings?

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
23rd Oct, 2015 04:47:10 AM

Depends on the medium, not the genre. As a text work, this would be Fan Fic.

Edit: Mostly depends on the medium...

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
jayoungr Since: Sep, 2009
23rd Oct, 2015 07:35:47 AM

Sure, I can move it. Never done a Fan Fic page before, though; are there any guidelines I should be aware of?

randomsurfer Since: Jan, 2001
28th Oct, 2015 09:22:21 PM

I'm not the best person to ask; but FWIW I'd just find some reasonably well known fanfic and copy its formatting. Other than that, I got nuthin'.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
29th Oct, 2015 01:52:24 AM

Same format as any other work page.

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MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
29th Oct, 2015 12:42:21 PM

About the "Derived works should never be listed on the parent work's article" thing... the List Of Shows That Need Summary has the following paragraph: "Also take note, try to include a work in its media of initial incarnation. For example, instead of placing The Film of the Book in the movie category place the work under the Literature section. Another example being Anime, if it was a Manga first place it under Manga. The notable exception to this rule is either when a work's derivative incarnation is more widely known than the original (in which case please leave a note mentioning such), or when a page exists for the original version but not the adaptation (in which case a note should also be made so that the creator can either add a section to the pre-existing page or decide to create a new one)."

Must this paragraph be changed?

MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
29th Oct, 2015 12:42:31 PM

Double post.

Edited by MagBas
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
29th Oct, 2015 03:15:50 PM

It's a different meaning of the phrase.

The problem specifically is listing a derivative on the main work's page as a trope, or vice versa, or listing tropes for both on the same page mixed together, even though they're different works and should at least have different folders.

Referring to them at the end of related works' descriptions, saying such-and-such movie has been MST'd or that that book was adapted into a differently-titled movie is encouraging the reader to take a longer Wiki Walk. (I am Legend would be a notable one: It has at least three movie adaptions, only one of which shares the title with the book.)

Edited by Candi Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
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