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Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th Dec, 2022 02:59:05 AM

As far as I'm concerned, Useful Notes shouldn't even have subpages as they're neither works or tropes.

Independently, Laconic.Australian Politics and Laconic.American Political System are kind of ROCEJ violation as they're made to snark about real world events.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
19th Dec, 2022 06:50:24 AM

For what it’s worth, I’ve seen laconics for creators being cut recently, so this presumably falls under the same umbrella.

HamanaHamanaHamana (Bitroper)
19th Dec, 2022 07:06:48 AM

Just cut it. Laconic should (in theory) be used for works only.

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Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
19th Dec, 2022 08:43:23 AM

^ They are also commonly used for tropes.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
19th Dec, 2022 11:40:57 AM

Maybe run them by the ROCEJ thread just to be safe.

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
19th Dec, 2022 12:14:39 PM

I thought laconics were just for tropes, a one sentence summary of the concept (in theory). Never heard of works having them, and certainly UN pages shouldn't have them.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
19th Dec, 2022 12:22:24 PM

Yeah, technically no namespace needs a laconic, but I stand by my personal belief that they should only be for tropes if used at all (though work ones are rather harmless and mostly JFF). There's no benefit to having a laconic for something like UN pages.

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
19th Dec, 2022 12:23:50 PM

We all have differing opinions of what laconics should be used for. They aren't harming the wiki, so why not keep them around?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
19th Dec, 2022 12:27:41 PM

For Useful Notes, the entire point is to describe something in detail. Laconics do the exact opposite and I'm also pretty sure that UN pages don't get subpages anyway. It just makes sense that laconics attached to UN pages provide no real benefit, because you won't get any info out of the laconic. It's not like describing a work or trope, that can be kinda helpful even if they're very often badly written — it's a one sentence description of a subject we're trying to teach about for an entire page, and it just doesn't work.

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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
19th Dec, 2022 12:32:22 PM

Maybe a Wiki Talk on the scope of laconics is in order?

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Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
19th Dec, 2022 12:36:08 PM

IMO they should be limited to works and tropes.

laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
19th Dec, 2022 12:38:18 PM

Created a thread here.

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